Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 9, 2009, at 20:59, ma...@macports.org wrote: Here's how I see the Guide at this time w.r.t. what kind of person should read that section: 1. Introduction -- all users 2. Installing MacPorts -- all users 3. Using MacPorts -- all users 4. Portfile Development -- port maintainers 5. Portfil

Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread Bryan Blackburn
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:16:44AM -0500, Ryan Schmidt said: >> Many of those tickets say "the guide should ..." and give not a lot of >> helpful information. Not all. Ryan's doc tickets are particularly >> helpful I should say. But as an example of ones that will linger: >> http://trac.macports

Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread Ryan Schmidt
Many of those tickets say "the guide should ..." and give not a lot of helpful information. Not all. Ryan's doc tickets are particularly helpful I should say. But as an example of ones that will linger: http://trac.macports.org/ticket/15784 Since the creator didn't give any directly usable

Re: perl5.8 fixup

2009-03-09 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Mar 9, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Marcus Calhoun-Lopez wrote: Eric Hall writes: Given that MP installs (most) modules into vendor_perl, I think the order should be: site, vendor, then perl base/core. I like the line(s) you have for showing the directory ordering in the pa

Re: perl5.8 fixup

2009-03-09 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Mar 9, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Eric Hall wrote: On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:27:39AM +, Marcus Calhoun-Lopez wrote: Eric Hall writes: On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:03:57PM -0700, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: I have played around with my perl5.8 port and I have what appears to me to be a soluti

Re: perl5.8 fixup

2009-03-09 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Mar 9, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Marcus Calhoun-Lopez wrote: Eric Hall writes: On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:03:57PM -0700, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: I have played around with my perl5.8 port and I have what appears to me to be a solution to the path collision/registry issue. I modified my perl5.

Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread markd
>> I think the distinction between types of users for documentation is >> problematic. > >Problematic in what way? Do you mean you think it would be >problematic to write the Guide to target different classes of users? >Or do you mean you think users will currently find it problematic to >identi

Re: perl5.8 fixup

2009-03-09 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:55 PM, Eric Hall wrote: On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:03:57PM -0700, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: I have played around with my perl5.8 port and I have what appears to me to be a solution to the path collision/registry issue. I modified my perl5.8 Portfile like so: configure.ar

Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread markd
>> We don't want more people writing the Guide. It should stay as a >> coherent document authored by one or a few individuals who have a >> handle on the whole thing. > >I want more people writing the guide :-) >At least I count some TODOs in the guide which are probably there for as >long as I u

Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread markd
>> I think the distinction between types of users for documentation is >> problematic. But chunking documents into "topics" and assembling them >> into various docs as needed would at least allow it in theory. It is >> called DITA. Another XML standard. I know, ugh. But I just don't see >> how

Re: perl5.8 fixup

2009-03-09 Thread Marcus Calhoun-Lopez
Eric Hall writes: > Given that MP installs (most) modules into vendor_perl, > I think the order should be: > > site, vendor, then perl base/core. > > I like the line(s) you have for showing the directory ordering > in the patch, I'll incorporate those. > > I have a diff

Re: perl5.8 fixup

2009-03-09 Thread Eric Hall
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:27:39AM +, Marcus Calhoun-Lopez wrote: > Eric Hall writes: > > > > > On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:03:57PM -0700, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > > I have played around with my perl5.8 port and I have what appears to > > > me to be a solution to the path collision/reg

Re: perl5.8 fixup

2009-03-09 Thread Marcus Calhoun-Lopez
Eric Hall writes: > > On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:03:57PM -0700, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > I have played around with my perl5.8 port and I have what appears to > > me to be a solution to the path collision/registry issue. > > > > I modified my perl5.8 Portfile like so: > > > > configure.a

Re: perl5.8 fixup

2009-03-09 Thread Eric Hall
On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 02:03:57PM -0700, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > I have played around with my perl5.8 port and I have what appears to > me to be a solution to the path collision/registry issue. > > I modified my perl5.8 Portfile like so: > > configure.args-append -D man1dir='/opt/local/sha

Re: can't read "variant_installed": no such variable

2009-03-09 Thread Joshua Root
Ryan Schmidt wrote: > Trying to upgrade rpm51 running MacPorts 1.7 release branch r47786 I get > this curious message; any ideas? I was able to upgrade other ports (that > have no variants selected) successfully. Perhaps it has to do with the > fact that this port has an autoselected platform varia

can't read "variant_installed": no such variable

2009-03-09 Thread Ryan Schmidt
Trying to upgrade rpm51 running MacPorts 1.7 release branch r47786 I get this curious message; any ideas? I was able to upgrade other ports (that have no variants selected) successfully. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that this port has an autoselected platform variant (+macosx) but no

Re: perl5.8 fixup

2009-03-09 Thread Eric Hall
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 02:41:50AM +, Marcus Calhoun-Lopez wrote: > Bradley Giesbrecht writes: > > Thank you for the clarification. > > > > If I understand what is being discussed (please correct me if I'm > > > wrong), > > > we would > > > * copy perl5.8 -> perl5.8-core. > > > * creat

Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread C. Florian Ebeling
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > But how about a future where things are somewhat different: > > - Portfiles are stored remotely > - Portfiles can be submitted by anyone and submitting a portfile > automatically causes a build farm to attempt to build a package (failures > a

Re: perl5.8 fixup

2009-03-09 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
I have played around with my perl5.8 port and I have what appears to me to be a solution to the path collision/registry issue. I modified my perl5.8 Portfile like so: configure.args-append -D man1dir='/opt/local/share/man/man1' -D man1direxp='/opt/local/share/man/man1' -D man3dir='/opt/local

Re: ocaml port updates

2009-03-09 Thread Anil Madhavapeddy
On 9 Mar 2009, at 20:38, Daniel J. Luke wrote: On Mar 9, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: Most of the ports involved are openmaintainers and the updates are a bit interlinked due to ocaml being updated to 3.11.0. In a case like this, I would open one ticket and CC all of the mai

Re: ocaml port updates

2009-03-09 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Mar 9, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Anil Madhavapeddy wrote: Most of the ports involved are openmaintainers and the updates are a bit interlinked due to ocaml being updated to 3.11.0. In a case like this, I would open one ticket and CC all of the maintainers of the various ports (and discuss there

Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Mar 9, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: But I'm not sure what alternative to this method I can offer. At least not currently... But how about a future where things are somewhat different: - Portfiles are stored remotely - Portfiles can be submitted by anyone and submitting a portfile

ocaml port updates

2009-03-09 Thread Anil Madhavapeddy
Hi, I have a macports repository up at: http://github.com/avsm/darwinports ... with a number of updates to ocaml-related ports (and also some new ports). Most of the ports involved are openmaintainers and the updates are a bit interlinked due to ocaml being updated to 3.11.0. What would b

Re: Conventions when it comes to cron-like launchd items

2009-03-09 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 9, 2009, at 12:32, Mark Hattam wrote: On 9 Mar 2009, at 16:37, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Mar 8, 2009, at 13:58, Joshua Root wrote: Adam Byrtek wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 19:38, Rainer Müller wrote: So the port munin could be the node only, and munin +server additionally installs

Re: Conventions when it comes to cron-like launchd items

2009-03-09 Thread Mark Hattam
On 9 Mar 2009, at 16:37, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Mar 8, 2009, at 13:58, Joshua Root wrote: Adam Byrtek wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 19:38, Rainer Müller wrote: So the port munin could be the node only, and munin +server additionally installs the server. This would be reasonable as the n

Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:51, Martin Krischik wrote: >> Ryan Schmidt schrieb: >>> On Mar 8, 2009, at 07:18, Martin Krischik wrote: I don't know - writing tickets with new ports attached did not work all that well. >>> That is our process. What about it didn't work

Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 8, 2009, at 11:51, Martin Krischik wrote: Ryan Schmidt schrieb: On Mar 8, 2009, at 07:18, Martin Krischik wrote: Ryan Schmidt schrieb: If there are specific things missing from the guide, please file tickets requesting that documentation. Please file tickets for any issues you

Re: The Guide - again

2009-03-09 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 8, 2009, at 13:00, Rainer Müller wrote: Ryan Schmidt wrote: Especially if the concern is the guide being outdated, I see the problem in the guide format. We had the recent discussion to move the guide to another markup language but it was teared down. What else can we do to attract

Re: Conventions when it comes to cron-like launchd items

2009-03-09 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 8, 2009, at 13:58, Joshua Root wrote: Adam Byrtek wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 19:38, Rainer Müller wrote: So the port munin could be the node only, and munin +server additionally installs the server. This would be reasonable as the node gets installed more often than the server

Google Summer of Code 2009: Mentors needed!

2009-03-09 Thread Rainer Müller
Hi, The MacPorts Project will apply again for the Google Summer of Code (GSoC) program this year. I think most of you will already have heard of it. Google pays students to work on various Open Source projects over the summer. It is also a good start for students into Open Source development. See

Re: Duplicate Perl 5.8 libraries

2009-03-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2009-03-09 05:19:35 +, Marcus Calhoun-Lopez wrote: > Vincent Lefevre writes: > > > On 2009-03-08 18:22:46 +0100, Rainer Müller wrote: > > > Adam Byrtek wrote: > > > > When playing with dependencies for a new port that requires certain > > > > CPAN libraries I found out that there are multi

Re: [47871] trunk/base/src/macports1.0/macports.tcl

2009-03-09 Thread Joshua Root
Rainer Müller wrote: > b...@macports.org wrote: >> Revision: 47871 >> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/47871 >> Author: b...@macports.org >> Date: 2009-03-09 00:38:20 -0700 (Mon, 09 Mar 2009) >> Log Message: >> --- >> macports1.0/macports.tcl - don't bother with .quick wor

Re: [47871] trunk/base/src/macports1.0/macports.tcl

2009-03-09 Thread Rainer Müller
b...@macports.org wrote: > Revision: 47871 > http://trac.macports.org/changeset/47871 > Author: b...@macports.org > Date: 2009-03-09 00:38:20 -0700 (Mon, 09 Mar 2009) > Log Message: > --- > macports1.0/macports.tcl - don't bother with .quick work when the PortIndex > isn't a