Re: Noticing Perl stuff along the wire again

2014-04-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Mark Anderson wrote: > I'm with you 100% there. Whatever we do it should be properly planned. Let > me dig though and put together a draft. > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Joshua Root wrote: > >> I don't really care what we do with perl as long as it works. I've

Re: Noticing Perl stuff along the wire again

2014-04-04 Thread Joshua Root
Yes, I meant a single commit to the live ports tree, and of course you can do work on a branch. On 2014-4-5 10:55 , Eric Gallager wrote: > How about making a separate "perl5-rewrite" branch in subversion, > working on the draft in that branch, and then merging that once it is > ready? That would s

Re: Noticing Perl stuff along the wire again

2014-04-04 Thread Eric Gallager
How about making a separate "perl5-rewrite" branch in subversion, working on the draft in that branch, and then merging that once it is ready? That would still technically meet jmr's "ideally in a single commit" criterion, as the only commit to trunk would be the merge from the other branch. On

Re: [118533] trunk/dports/net/pidgin/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread David Evans
On 4/4/14 4:01 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> On 4/4/14 1:22 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >>> You should use a specific version of perl instead, like perl5.16. > Maybe I take that back, because: > > On Apr 4, 2014, at 07:44, Eric Gallager wrote: > >> I thought we were doing variants now, when the dependency

Re: [118533] trunk/dports/net/pidgin/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2014, at 18:05, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > If they're pure perl then that might work; if there's any XS involved > then a hard version dependency would be needed. > > How would we determine that? > I don’t know enough about perl to k

Re: [118533] trunk/dports/net/pidgin/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread Joshua Root
On 2014-4-5 10:46 , Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2014, at 18:05, Brandon Allbery wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >>> In this case, the dependency isn’t for more than just the perl executable, >>> is it? The port does build and install perl modules, but it ins

Re: [118533] trunk/dports/net/pidgin/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 4, 2014, at 18:05, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> In this case, the dependency isn’t for more than just the perl executable, >> is it? The port does build and install perl modules, but it installs them in >> a pidgin-specific location, not

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Joshua Root
On 2014-4-5 03:43 , Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Hi, > > I'm curious how many people would be willing and able to join if we > organized a 3-5 day long developer meeting somewhere "in the heart of > Europe" (somewhere close to public transportation, but outside of city > centers, somewhere in nature).

Re: Noticing Perl stuff along the wire again

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Anderson
I'm with you 100% there. Whatever we do it should be properly planned. Let me dig though and put together a draft. Mark --Mark ___ Mark E. Anderson On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Joshua Root wrote: > On 2014-4-5 07:24 , Daniel J. Luke wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:20 P

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Joshua Root
On 2014-4-5 07:47 , Daniel J. Luke wrote: > On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> >> I was trying to figure out if there was any information about >> username<->continent written somewhere, but couldn't find anything. >> (Maybe that or the default timezone like "UTC+1/UTC-7/..." cou

Re: Noticing Perl stuff along the wire again

2014-04-04 Thread Joshua Root
On 2014-4-5 07:24 , Daniel J. Luke wrote: > On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Mark Anderson wrote: >> >> I know we've argued about this time and time again, but Perl issues are >> coming back up it seems. I've started work - admittedly not getting very far >> on the cpan-mp idea. I'm still trying to f

Re: [118533] trunk/dports/net/pidgin/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > In this case, the dependency isn’t for more than just the perl executable, > is it? The port does build and install perl modules, but it installs them > in a pidgin-specific location, not in the versioned directory for whatever > version of per

Re: [118533] trunk/dports/net/pidgin/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread Ryan Schmidt
> On 4/4/14 1:22 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> >> You should use a specific version of perl instead, like perl5.16. Maybe I take that back, because: On Apr 4, 2014, at 07:44, Eric Gallager wrote: > I thought we were doing variants now, when the dependency is for more > than just the "perl" execut

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Aljaž 'g5pw' Srebrnič
Hello everyone! I’d love to meet others in the community. Since me and Mojca live pretty close together, I can give you a hand organizing. And hey, we’re at three members residing in (or really close to) Italy! :) On 04 aprile 2014 at 23:32:07, Peter Danecek (peter.dane...@bo.ingv.it) wrote: H

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Peter Danecek
Hi all, I like the idea of the face-to-face meeting of the Macports community. The sketch of the possible program sound reasonable. We definitely should have some first I idea of the no. of participants. Having it in two different locations + video conf. has some "coolness factor" but on the o

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi I'm interested and I'd welcome Europe. That will however depend on where I'll be in 2015. > I was trying to figure out if there was any information about > username<->continent written somewhere, but couldn't find anything. mpbot in IRC has some locations, but obviously not all devs are there

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:22 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > Having the meeting at two locations (one in Europe and one somewhere > in USA) at the same time and organizing a short videoconference each > day. But that only makes sense if there's sufficient interest and > someone should organize the local

port reload command

2014-04-04 Thread Ivan Larionov
Hi there. Does anyone except me interested in port reload command? https://trac.macports.org/ticket/42487 https://trac.macports.org/attachment/ticket/42487/port_reload.patch BTW most linux distributions do reload or restart of software during upgrade. Don’t we want to implement same behavior?

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Wahlstedt Jyrki
On 4 .4 .2014, at 22.22, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Hi, > > If you are interested in coming, maybe you can also add the continent > of your choice to the reply ;) > > Mojca This would definitely be good for the community, I think. Now we see each other’s names in emails and commits, but have a

Re: Noticing Perl stuff along the wire again

2014-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Mark Anderson wrote: > > I know we've argued about this time and time again, but Perl issues are > coming back up it seems. I've started work - admittedly not getting very far > on the cpan-mp idea. I'm still trying to figure out /base to be honest and > brush off m

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hi, I mentioned Europe for obvious reasons: because it's way cheaper (for Europeans) to take a train or car than to fly to San Francisco. And because I know a few places where such a meeting could take place without spending a fortune for food and accommodation (I already organized one). On Fri,

Re: git.macports.org not syncing since 11 March

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Anderson
Wow, yeah, that was a lot of stuff that came down. Mark --Mark ___ Mark E. Anderson On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Shreeraj Karulkar wrote: > Finally git-push ran successfully. Can you please take a look and let me > know if you see issues? Sorry for the delay. > > Shree

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Sean Farley
Eric Gallager writes: > I would be interested in going, although Europe is kind of far away > from North America... What continent are most people from macports-dev > located on? Since getting visas to the US is non-trivial and also that flights across the Atlantics are not the cheapest, maybe

Re: git.macports.org not syncing since 11 March

2014-04-04 Thread Shreeraj Karulkar
Finally git-push ran successfully. Can you please take a look and let me know if you see issues? Sorry for the delay. Shree On Apr 4, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Mark Anderson wrote: > Yeah, I continue to get "up-to-date" on my git pull upstream masters. I could > have sworn more work was going on. >

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Eric Gallager
Oops, I did not see this message before sending my previous one, which said pretty much the same thing... US/ET here as well, and both Washington/DC/US and Boston/MA/US would be easier for me, as I already have experience with both cities... although it would be cool to go to Europe sometime if I c

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Eric Gallager
I would be interested in going, although Europe is kind of far away from North America... What continent are most people from macports-dev located on? (Also, apparently 100 EUR is about $140 USD, and 30 EUR/day is about $40 USD/day... I had no idea that the two currencies had diverged that much re

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Dickens
Ditto what Mark wrote. For me, this would generally be easier during the summer break (maybe even bring the whole family, depending on where it is). That said, I'm wondering where most MacPorts devs reside -- seems like there are at least a few out in US/CA. I'm in US/ET. There are certainly so

Noticing Perl stuff along the wire again

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Anderson
I know we've argued about this time and time again, but Perl issues are coming back up it seems. I've started work - admittedly not getting very far on the cpan-mp idea. I'm still trying to figure out /base to be honest and brush off my Perl-XS skills. I feel like we have had this argument again a

Re: MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Anderson
If I can get myself to Europe. Depends on where and when. --Mark ___ Mark E. Anderson On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Hi, > > I'm curious how many people would be willing and able to join if we > organized a 3-5 day long developer meeting somewhere

MacPorts Developer Meeting?

2014-04-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hi, I'm curious how many people would be willing and able to join if we organized a 3-5 day long developer meeting somewhere "in the heart of Europe" (somewhere close to public transportation, but outside of city centers, somewhere in nature). Let's assume that we could reach a price of 100 EUR (

Re: git.macports.org not syncing since 11 March

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Anderson
Yeah, I continue to get "up-to-date" on my git pull upstream masters. I could have sworn more work was going on. Mark --Mark ___ Mark E. Anderson On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Rainer Müller wrote: > On 2014-04-03 21:24, Shreeraj Karulkar wrote: > > I have changed it. TH

Re: [118533] trunk/dports/net/pidgin/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread David Evans
On 4/4/14 1:22 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Apr 4, 2014, at 00:03, dev...@macports.org wrote: > >> Revision >> 118533 >> Author >> dev...@macports.org >> Date >> 2014-04-03 22:03:33 -0700 (Thu, 03 Apr 2014) >> Log Message >> >> pidgin: depend on perl5, increment revision to rebuild archived binary

Re: location of libperl.dylib and other dylibs

2014-04-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > People are still trying to figure out how to deal with perl ports; there > was a recent aborted attempt at building a port select mechanism for it > instead of that perl5 metaport wit

Re: location of libperl.dylib and other dylibs

2014-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Apr 4, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > People are still trying to figure out how to deal with perl ports; there > > was a recent aborted attempt at building a port

Re: location of libperl.dylib and other dylibs

2014-04-04 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > People are still trying to figure out how to deal with perl ports; there was > a recent aborted attempt at building a port select mechanism for it instead > of that perl5 metaport with variants, which ran into lots of problems. The > whol

Re: location of libperl.dylib and other dylibs

2014-04-04 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:39 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > I wonder why libperl.dylib ends up under > $prefix/lib/perl5/5.x.y/darwin-thread-multi-2level/CORE/libperl.dylib > when perl5.x.y is supposed to be binary compatible with perl5.x.z. > That's Perl's own packaging doing (and requiring) that

Re: [118533] trunk/dports/net/pidgin/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread Eric Gallager
I thought we were doing variants now, when the dependency is for more than just the "perl" executable, at least: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/43193 On 4/4/14, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2014, at 00:03, dev...@macports.org wrote: > >> Revision >> 118533 >> Author >> dev...@macports.org

Re: [118506] trunk/dports/multimedia/libmpeg2/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Apr 3, 2014, at 09:25, mo...@macports.org wrote: > >> Revision >> 118506 >> Author >> mo...@macports.org >> Date >> 2014-04-03 07:25:00 -0700 (Thu, 03 Apr 2014) >> Log Message >> >> libmpeg2: add +sdl +x11 (#39383) >> Modified Paths >> >>

location of libperl.dylib and other dylibs

2014-04-04 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hi, I wonder why libperl.dylib ends up under $prefix/lib/perl5/5.x.y/darwin-thread-multi-2level/CORE/libperl.dylib when perl5.x.y is supposed to be binary compatible with perl5.x.z. And I wonder if anyone has any clue about which packages need a revbump after a new revision of Perl gets out. T

Re: [118506] trunk/dports/multimedia/libmpeg2/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 3, 2014, at 09:25, mo...@macports.org wrote: > Revision > 118506 > Author > mo...@macports.org > Date > 2014-04-03 07:25:00 -0700 (Thu, 03 Apr 2014) > Log Message > > libmpeg2: add +sdl +x11 (#39383) > Modified Paths > > • trunk/dports/multimedia/libmpeg2/Portfile > Diff > > Modif

Re: [118533] trunk/dports/net/pidgin/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 4, 2014, at 00:03, dev...@macports.org wrote: > Revision > 118533 > Author > dev...@macports.org > Date > 2014-04-03 22:03:33 -0700 (Thu, 03 Apr 2014) > Log Message > > pidgin: depend on perl5, increment revision to rebuild archived binary with > latest default version (#42213), maintain

Re: [118494] trunk/dports/python/py-theano/Portfile

2014-04-04 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 3, 2014, at 07:20, strom...@macports.org wrote: > Revision > 118494 > Author > strom...@macports.org > Date > 2014-04-03 05:20:40 -0700 (Thu, 03 Apr 2014) > Log Message > > py-theano: fix permissions (#43188) > Modified Paths > > • trunk/dports/python/py-theano/Portfile > Diff > >

Re: git.macports.org not syncing since 11 March

2014-04-04 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2014-04-03 21:24, Shreeraj Karulkar wrote: > I have changed it. THanks for brining this up. Hm, but the git mirror is still not updating. The latest commit synced was r117767 on March 11. Rainer ___ macports-dev mailing list macports-dev@lists.macosf