Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-18 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Sep 18, 2014, at 5:13 PM, petr <9...@ingv.it> wrote: > Not all py24 and py25 subports have py27 equivalents. At first sight it seems > that quite some of these are no required anymore because either part of the > standard library (replaced_by python27 ???) or old unmaintained software. But >

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-18 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:48 PM, petr <9...@ingv.it> wrote: > +1 for removing 2.4 and 2.5. I would not remove 2.6 for now. It is still well > supported By whom? Certainly not by upstream. > There is also some value in having around for testing, as some very > conservative Linux distributions still

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-18 Thread petr
On 17 Sep 2014, at 16:48, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > On Sep 16, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Rainer Müller wrote: > >> As soon as they are removed from the PortIndex, they will be matched by >> the 'obsolete' pseudo-port. You can check for installed ports that are >> no longer in any ports tree with the

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-18 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:58 PM, petr <9...@ingv.it> wrote: > On 17 Sep 2014, at 03:43, Ned Deily wrote: Ned didn't say this; I did. >> Please don't create new py24, py25, py31, and py32 subports from now on. I'd >> like to phase out and remove python{26,27,31,32} in the near future. > > Is there

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-18 Thread petr
On 17 Sep 2014, at 03:43, Ned Deily wrote: > Please don't create new py24, py25, py31, and py32 subports from now on. I'd > like to phase out and remove python{26,27,31,32} in the near future. > Is there a typo here? Should this read `... remove python{24,25,31,32} in the near future.` ? ~pe

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-18 Thread petr
Hi all, I already wanted to make a similar proposal (at least for py24) so I am in favour of this proposal. +1 for removing 2.4 and 2.5. I would not remove 2.6 for now. It is still well supported and py26 subports are in general easier to maintain. There is also some value in having around fo

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-17 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Sep 16, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Rainer Müller wrote: > As soon as they are removed from the PortIndex, they will be matched by > the 'obsolete' pseudo-port. You can check for installed ports that are > no longer in any ports tree with the command 'port echo obsolete'. This > also works with 'port un

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-16 Thread Ned Deily
In article <987e50bd-3eb4-4fe3-bf08-29c3f7916...@macports.org>, Lawrence Velazquez wrote: > On Sep 16, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Clemens Lang > wrote: > > If I were you, I'd set a timeout and if nobody argues that we should keep > > them > > for a good reason, delete them once the timeout has passed

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-16 Thread Joshua Root
On 2014-9-17 04:23 , Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > My problem with python24 and python25 (aside from having to maintain dead > software) is that they aren't framework installations, making them even more > of a pain to deal with. Note the 2.4/2.5-specific logic in python-1.0, for > example. python

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-16 Thread Sean Farley
Lawrence Velázquez writes: > On Sep 16, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Clemens Lang wrote: > >> If I were you, I'd set a timeout and if nobody argues that we should keep >> them >> for a good reason, delete them once the timeout has passed. Probably ask >> -users, >> too. > > I like this. > >> While we're

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-16 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Sep 16, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Clemens Lang wrote: > If I were you, I'd set a timeout and if nobody argues that we should keep them > for a good reason, delete them once the timeout has passed. Probably ask > -users, > too. I like this. > While we're at it, isn't 2.6 unsupported as well? Yes, a

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-16 Thread Sean Farley
Frank Schima writes: > On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > >> I'm trying to adapt Ned Deily's patches for Yosemite[1] to the Python ports. >> Adapting them to all the Python 3.x ports was tedious enough, but now I've >> made it to Python 2.4 and 2.5. I feel like I'm slappi

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-16 Thread Frank Schima
On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > I'm trying to adapt Ned Deily's patches for Yosemite[1] to the Python ports. > Adapting them to all the Python 3.x ports was tedious enough, but now I've > made it to Python 2.4 and 2.5. I feel like I'm slapping bandages onto > patients

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-16 Thread Aljaž Srebrnič
On 16/set/2014, at 03:56, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > I'm trying to adapt Ned Deily's patches for Yosemite[1] to the Python ports. > Adapting them to all the Python 3.x ports was tedious enough, but now I've > made it to Python 2.4 and 2.5. I feel like I'm slapping bandages onto > patients who

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-16 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2014-09-16 10:44, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > (Once again it would be nice to automatically uninstall all the > py24-foo ports, but I don't know how to do that and I don't consider > it to be a showstopper if we don't find an elegant solution soon.) As soon as they are removed from the PortIndex, t

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-16 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Christoph Deil wrote: > > On 16 Sep 2014, at 07:44, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Clemens Lang wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> - On 16 Sep, 2014, at 03:56, Lawrence Velázquez lar...@macports.org >>> wrote: >>> Is there some overwhelm

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-15 Thread Christoph Deil
On 16 Sep 2014, at 07:44, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Clemens Lang wrote: >> Hi, >> >> - On 16 Sep, 2014, at 03:56, Lawrence Velázquez lar...@macports.org >> wrote: >> >>> Is there some overwhelmingly good reason we still provide these, given that >>> 2.7 >>>

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Clemens Lang wrote: > Hi, > > - On 16 Sep, 2014, at 03:56, Lawrence Velázquez lar...@macports.org wrote: > >> Is there some overwhelmingly good reason we still provide these, given that >> 2.7 >> is still alive and kicking? Can we please stop providing them? >

Re: Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-15 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, - On 16 Sep, 2014, at 03:56, Lawrence Velázquez lar...@macports.org wrote: > Is there some overwhelmingly good reason we still provide these, given that > 2.7 > is still alive and kicking? Can we please stop providing them? If I were you, I'd set a timeout and if nobody argues that we s

Retiring Python 2.4 and 2.5

2014-09-15 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
I'm trying to adapt Ned Deily's patches for Yosemite[1] to the Python ports. Adapting them to all the Python 3.x ports was tedious enough, but now I've made it to Python 2.4 and 2.5. I feel like I'm slapping bandages onto patients who have been brain-dead for 5.74 and 3.31 years, respectively.