Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-31 Thread Gustaf Neumann
Am 29.10.13 21:52, schrieb Clemens Lang: On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 08:47:29PM +, Paul Bennett wrote: Is 'xcode-select --install' really necessary on Mavericks? Without xcode-select --install, /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh does not exist and MacPorts base currently fails to configure

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-30 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Mark Anderson wrote: > Will xcode-select --install work right without XCode.app? I do OSX and Mac > Dev, so I always have it, but I'm curious to try now. Yes. $ sw_vers ProductName: Mac OS X ProductVersion: 10.9 BuildVersion: 13A598 $ ls -l /Applications/X

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-30 Thread Mark Anderson
Will xcode-select --install work right without XCode.app? I do OSX and Mac Dev, so I always have it, but I'm curious to try now. —Mark ___ Mark E. Anderson On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Ned Deily wrote: > In article , > Paul Bennett wrote: > > > O

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-30 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Paul Bennett wrote: > On 30 Oct 2013, at 23:04, Ned Deily wrote: > > In article <52711f90.70...@macports.org>, > > Rainer Muller wrote: > >> Well, after thinking about this again, we could also do it the other way > >> around. The majority of ports already builds just fine if you

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-30 Thread Paul Bennett
On 30 Oct 2013, at 23:04, Ned Deily wrote: > In article <52711f90.70...@macports.org>, > Rainer Muller wrote: >> Well, after thinking about this again, we could also do it the other way >> around. The majority of ports already builds just fine if you have the >> Command Line Tools only, without X

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-30 Thread Ned Deily
about > missing xcodebuild, it's not actually required in this case). > > That would allow to save the additional installation of Xcode.app and > only require `xcode-select --install`. However, with only ~2.5 GiB, the > reduced disk usage without Xcode.app is quite small

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-30 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2013-10-29 23:34, Ned Deily wrote: > In article <50ac6a3d-a11c-4215-ad99-a4b61312f...@angellane.org>, > Paul Bennett wrote: > >> Is 'xcode-select --install' really necessary on Mavericks? >> >> I propose that it isn't, and we should consider

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-29 Thread Ned Deily
In article <50ac6a3d-a11c-4215-ad99-a4b61312f...@angellane.org>, Paul Bennett wrote: > Is 'xcode-select --install' really necessary on Mavericks? > > I propose that it isn't, and we should consider a port that fails to build > without as a bug. > >

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-29 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2013-10-29 22:54, Paul Bennett wrote: > On 29 Oct 2013, at 20:52, Clemens Lang wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 08:47:29PM +, Paul Bennett wrote: >>> Is 'xcode-select --install' really necessary on Mavericks? >> >> Without xcode-select --in

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-29 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2013-10-29 21:47, Paul Bennett wrote: > Xcode 5 installs command-line shims for the toolchain. These invoke the > relevant actual tools in the SDK directories. So it's possible to install > many (most?) ports without 'xcode-select --install'. What that command do

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-29 Thread Paul Bennett
On 29 Oct 2013, at 20:52, Clemens Lang wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 08:47:29PM +, Paul Bennett wrote: >> Is 'xcode-select --install' really necessary on Mavericks? > > Without xcode-select --install, /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh does not exist and > MacPorts base

Re: Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-29 Thread Clemens Lang
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 08:47:29PM +, Paul Bennett wrote: > Is 'xcode-select --install' really necessary on Mavericks? Without xcode-select --install, /usr/lib/tclConfig.sh does not exist and MacPorts base currently fails to configure because it cannot find Tcl. We could discu

Maverics/Xcode 5 proposal: no more xcode-select --install

2013-10-29 Thread Paul Bennett
Is 'xcode-select --install' really necessary on Mavericks? I propose that it isn't, and we should consider a port that fails to build without as a bug. Why? Xcode 5 installs command-line shims for the toolchain. These invoke the relevant actual tools in the SDK directories. S

Re: xcode-select

2012-09-21 Thread Ned Deily
In article <691f79eb-9f8d-4211-8608-cc833a1f2...@macports.org>, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > Does xcode-select change the command line tools? > > If not, is there a command to issue after xcode-select to install the command > line tools for the select xcode? xcode-selec

xcode-select

2012-09-21 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
Does xcode-select change the command line tools? If not, is there a command to issue after xcode-select to install the command line tools for the select xcode? Regards, Bradley Giesbrecht (pixilla) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: xcode-select problem on a clean install of OS X Lion, XCode and MacPorts

2012-05-29 Thread Clemens Lang
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 09:47:30PM +0200, Marin Saric wrote: > 2) If not, give /Applications/Xcode.app a try, run xcode-select > -switch and issue a warning. Automagically modifying a user's setting is not a good idea. MacPorts should at most warn and tell the user what to do. Doesn

xcode-select problem on a clean install of OS X Lion, XCode and MacPorts

2012-05-29 Thread Marin Saric
manually run xcode-select -switch /Applications/Xcode.app before building MacPorts would work. The xcode-select defaulted to non-existing "/Developer" Suggestions: 1) Verify that xcode-select points to a sane path. 2) If not, give /Applications/Xcode.app a try, run xcode-select -switch a

Xcode: xcrun, xcodebuild, xcode-select

2012-03-09 Thread Art McGee
Greetings, I was just browsing the archive of the irc discussion where you discovered that the reason some people had an xcode-select 2003 version instead of the latest 2307, was because they installed Xcode 4.2.1 *after* having updated to 10.7.3 (and you reference that at https

Re: Xcode 4.3: where do xcode-select, xcodebuild, xcrun, etc, come from?

2012-02-17 Thread Dan Ports
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 02:45:23PM -0800, James Berry wrote: > (1) Do these tools exist on a machine if Xcode has never been > installed? (i.e., are they part of the core os?) Yes -- it looks like they are installed by the 10.7.3 update. Dan -- Dan R. K. Ports MIT CSAIL

Re: Xcode 4.3: where do xcode-select, xcodebuild, xcrun, etc, come from?

2012-02-17 Thread James Berry
ommand Line Tools installer, etc). > > So if that is indeed the case, I have a question about some of the tools of > Xcode that are installed in /usr/bin: xcodebuild, xcode-select, xcrun, etc. > > My questions are these: > > (1) Do these tools exist on a machine if X

Xcode 4.3: where do xcode-select, xcodebuild, xcrun, etc, come from?

2012-02-17 Thread James Berry
ave a question some of the tools of Xcode that are installed in /usr/bin: xcodebuild, xcode-select, xcrun, etc. My questions are these: (1) Do these tools exist on a machine if Xcode has never been installed? (i.e., are they part of the core os?) (2) Are these tools installed when