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> Von: "Keith J. Schultz" <keithjschu...@web.de> > Datum: 11. März 2011 10:36:03 MEZ > An: James Berry <jbe...@macports.org> > Betreff: Re: Xcode 4 issues > > > Am 11.03.2011 um 02:16 schrieb James Berry: > >> Sorry for the cross-post, but as this issue has been on both the users and >> the dev lists, I'm posting to both. >> >> I know that there's a lot of concern about the cost of Xcode 4, as well as >> of some compatibility issues. I know the portmgr team has been thinking >> about this, and has passed on some of the concerns to some relevant people >> within Apple. I thought I'd take a moment to bring up what we do know about >> this issue, based on various reports. >> >> (1) Xcode 4 is currently not free. It is available for $5 US through the Mac >> App Store, or available to developer who have a paid Apple Developer account >> (~$99). > C'mon $ 5 US or 4€ is not that much. I would think this a no-brainer >> >> (2) Xcode 3 is still available, and remains free at this time. > I doubt this will change. Either way, if you do not have it download > now. >> >> (3) PortMgr is requesting that wherever possible, no Xcode 4 requirements be >> placed into ports. > I do not use PortMgr so I can not say >> >> (4) By and large, the Xcode 4 tools, if installed, should be compatible with >> MacPorts, though this issue hasn't been widely explored; there may be some >> issues with SDK versions available in the various Xcode installs. > So far no problems, then again I do not have much installed! MacPorts > already uses other compilers and not always Apples! >> >> (5) The SDKs installed by various versions of Xcode have always been a >> changing target; this isn't a completely new issue. > Any port that do require a particular SDK version! >> >> (6) Apple has made no public announcements, that I know of, concerning the >> developer tools environment in Mac OS X Lion, expected for release this >> year. We don't know, for instance, if Xcode 3 will continue to be free, or >> whether it will function on Lion, nor if there will be any other build >> environment (tools, SDKs, etc) available for free for Lion. > I think we can safely, assume that it will be Xcode 4! Have not heard > of an XCode 5. > I assume that a version of Lion will be distributed via the Mac App > store and on some media with new machines and on some physical > media! The Mac App store could just offer Lion and if you want Xcode it > will be a separate download given the size of Xcode 4 (4 GB)! > Pricing is an interesting question! >> >> I think that's a fair list of some of the issues. If there are more, they >> can be added to the list. Maybe somebody can get some of this growing >> compilation onto the Wiki. > Actually, hardly any true issues! Fears, yes. MacPorts has been through > new OS changes before! So nothing new! PPC and Tiger are dead animals! >> >> It's my hope and desire, and I believe that of most members of the MacPorts >> project, that there will continue to be no-charge development tools and SDKs >> available on Mac OS X into the future. A good compromise between free and >> not free might be for there to be free command line tools and SDK, with the >> Xcode GUI available for a fee. > I like I mentioned above 5 bucks is really, not that much! >> >> In summary, not much has changed as-of yet: Xcode 3 is still available and >> free; what the future holds is somewhat less certain. I encourage MacPorts >> developers and users who want to influence that future to make their wishes >> known to any Apple contacts you might be able to leverage. > Xcode 3 is basically dead, just need it for PPC development maybe > Tiger, too! Not sure! > > regards > Keith. > >
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