Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 29, 2008, at 20:37, Rainer Müller wrote: > Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> Right, lingon, that's the name I couldn't think of. We could write >> up something on our web site about using that. > > Sounds like a good idea. > >> We already have a port for it... >> http://db.macports.org/port/show/4

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Never mind on this - I just read the follow-ups. I still think this is a really dangerous thing to do, but since the original poster realizes this also, I'll not belabor the point. - Jordan On May 29, 2008, at 7:35 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I'm not sure I understand what point you're

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I'm not sure I understand what point you're trying to make. If you put anything in /usr outside of /usr/local, since the very first release of MacOSX the rule has always been "you're living on borrowed time and at your own risk" since Apple, like every other OS vendor on the planet, reser

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: > Right, lingon, that's the name I couldn't think of. We could write up > something on our web site about using that. Sounds like a good idea. > We already have a port for it... > > http://db.macports.org/port/show/4001 Hm, the description of this port is wrong. Actually L

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 29, 2008, at 20:23, Chris Janton wrote: > On 2008-05-29 , at 18:12 , Ryan Schmidt wrote: > >> I don't think I like that hack very much. Wouldn't it be better to >> write up how to install a 3rd-party launchctl manager which you could >> use to start and stop all MacPorts-supplied startup s

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Chris Janton
On 2008-05-29 , at 18:12 , Ryan Schmidt wrote: > I don't think I like that hack very much. Wouldn't it be better to > write up how to install a 3rd-party launchctl manager which you could > use to start and stop all MacPorts-supplied startup services? Go to this webpage http://lingon.so

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Rainer Müller
Ryan Schmidt wrote: > I don't think I like that hack very much. Wouldn't it be better to > write up how to install a 3rd-party launchctl manager which you could > use to start and stop all MacPorts-supplied startup services? There is 'port load/unload' on trunk which basically does this. It is

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Alakazam
> Yes. I also would appreciate a clear HOWTO for that kind of thing, > being new > to Macs and already missing the simple (and sometimes simplistic) / > etc/init.d > scheme common on other platforms:-) As Ryan indicated (and I agree that hacking the Apple provided services is not very good pr

RE: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread John Korchok
Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Rainer Müller > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:47 PM > To: Cameron Simpson > Cc: macports-users@lists.macosforge.org > Subject: Re: Apple did it again! > > Cameron Simpson wrote: &

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 29May2008 20:12, Ryan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > I would like to suggest migrating John's initial summary to a Howto | > (and am ready to do so based on your work), if that seems appropriate. | | The reason for the hack is to let System Preferences > Sharing > Web | Sharing contro

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 30May2008 02:46, Rainer M?ller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cameron Simpson wrote: >> Yes, I feel your pain - I have a similar issue on another platform with >> another vendor. But it's not the vendor's fault, nor their problem. >> You and I have hacked in the vendor's playground, and it's our p

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On May 29, 2008, at 19:49, Alakazam wrote: > On 30 mai 08, at 02:46, Rainer Müller wrote: > >> Cameron Simpson wrote: >> >>> Yes, I feel your pain - I have a similar issue on another platform >>> with another vendor. But it's not the vendor's fault, nor their >>> problem. You and I have hacked in

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Alakazam
Hi ! On 30 mai 08, at 02:46, Rainer Müller wrote: > Cameron Simpson wrote: >> Yes, I feel your pain - I have a similar issue on another platform >> with >> another vendor. But it's not the vendor's fault, nor their problem. >> You and I have hacked in the vendor's playground, and it's our >>

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Rainer Müller
Cameron Simpson wrote: > Yes, I feel your pain - I have a similar issue on another platform with > another vendor. But it's not the vendor's fault, nor their problem. > You and I have hacked in the vendor's playground, and it's our problem > to make those hacks persist. I think we all agree on thi

Re: Apple did it again!

2008-05-29 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 29May2008 19:53, John Korchok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Once again, the latest security patch 2008-003 for Tiger broke our Apache 2 | installation by replacing apachectl. Earlier posts on this topic are | repeated below for any new listers: | | >>> Subject: Tiger software update replaces apa