Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-17 Thread Davor Cubranic
On 2014-02-12, at 3:50 PM, Art McGee wrote: > On a related note, Homebrew is actually based on GNU Stow. It's basically a > clone/ripoff with enhancements. If you're going to use Homebrew, then use it > in the same way suggested for Stow, and install packages in your home > directory, leaving /

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Gregory Shenaut wrote: > I've been reluctant to use anything under /opt because in the event I ever > need to scrub macports and start over, it's easier to remove /opt and > reinstall macports from scratch. > Other third party software uses /opt as well (and even

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:56, Gregory Shenaut wrote: > On Feb 14, 2014, at 08:46 , Mark Anderson wrote: > >> I also install into /opt/ where expands to something >> descriptive of all the crap I am installing in there. Then I can turn PATHs >> on and off depending. This is really important for pl

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Gregory Shenaut
On Feb 14, 2014, at 08:46 , Mark Anderson wrote: > I also install into /opt/ where expands to something > descriptive of all the crap I am installing in there. Then I can turn PATHs > on and off depending. This is really important for playing with things like > the gtk+ cocoa that needs its w

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-14 Thread Mark Anderson
I also install into /opt/ where expands to something descriptive of all the crap I am installing in there. Then I can turn PATHs on and off depending. This is really important for playing with things like the gtk+ cocoa that needs its whole space to itself. Just DONT use /opt or /opt/local of cour

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-13 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, > So let's be a little more specific. You are saying that it's > /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib that are the problem, not > /usr/local/bin, right? Otherwise you're saying that, for example, > MacPorts is incompatible with BBEdit (which puts symlinks in > /usr/local/bin). Very few "or

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 12, 2014, at 18:46, Mike Alexander wrote: > --On February 13, 2014 1:24:57 AM +0100 Clemens Lang wrote: > >> If those binary installers did install headers in /usr/local/include >> and libraries in /usr/local/lib that has been pure luck. As soon as >> you install a port that has an option

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 12, 2014, at 18:24, Clemens Lang wrote: > >> export MANPATH="/opt/local/share/man:${MANPATH}" >> export INFOPATH="/opt/local/share/info:${INFOPATH}" > > As far as I know those aren't used on newer versions of OS X and are > automatically derived from the value of $PATH. As far as I know

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Mike Alexander
--On February 13, 2014 1:24:57 AM +0100 Clemens Lang wrote: If those binary installers did install headers in /usr/local/include and libraries in /usr/local/lib that has been pure luck. As soon as you install a port that has an optional dependency not installed via MacPorts but present in /us

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi, > Actually, I don't think there is that much of a problem with installing > software in /usr/local, the problem is the particular way that Homebrew does > it by default, taking over /usr/local completely, and it's disregard for > standard ownership and permissions. You're wrong on that one. T

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript)

2014-02-12 Thread Art McGee
> I understand why installing in /usr/local can mess up macports, but > macports doesn't have everything, and most third-party software wants to go > into /usr/local. Where should this stuff go, if not /usr/local? > Actually, I don't think there is that much of a problem with installing software i

Re: Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-12 Thread Arno Hautala
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Gregory Shenaut wrote: > I understand why installing in /usr/local can mess up macports, but macports > doesn't have everything, and most third-party software wants to go into > /usr/local. Where should this stuff go, if not /usr/local? I install everything int

Where should non-macports sw be installed? (Was: Problem with Macports, homebrew, and ghostscript

2014-02-12 Thread Gregory Shenaut
I understand why installing in /usr/local can mess up macports, but macports doesn't have everything, and most third-party software wants to go into /usr/local. Where should this stuff go, if not /usr/local? Greg Shenaut ___ macports-users mailing list