Re: is macports getting rusty?

2021-11-29 Thread Mark Anderson
I think this is more a reflection of the open source landscape than anything we're doing. py-cryptography, for example, is 8% Rust, according to Github. I don't know when they added it, but the latest version needs it. Same goes for rav1e. It's one-third Rust. Along with Go, you're going to see m

Re: is macports getting rusty?

2021-11-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
It is _possible_ to write reliable, secure code in C or even assembler. But for large complex software, it's darn unlikely; there's too many ways to mess up, even for capable and meticulous programmers, and most, even if bright and useful, aren't _that_ good. Rust is supposed to eliminate a num

Re: is macports getting rusty?

2021-11-29 Thread Chris Jones
Give the developers of rust itself a piece of your mind if you like, over how slow it is to compile. Good luck with that - I suspect to be THAT slow (although really? compiling a C compiler suite plus library isn't exactly fast either) they might be doing some things by brute force that they

Re: is macports getting rusty?

2021-11-29 Thread Bill Cole
On 2021-11-29 at 08:32:46 UTC-0500 (Mon, 29 Nov 2021 13:32:46 +) Chris Jones is rumored to have said: If you find yourself during an port update building rust from source, either just let it finish, or if you don't want your machine tied up building rust for some period, just cancel the bu

Re: is macports getting rusty?

2021-11-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I would expect that the buildbots also need to satisfy dependencies, and thus, heavily-depended on builds would tend to be done earlier, regardless of whether or not they were large and slow; and if they are large and slow, they're arguably delaying the building of even more smaller ports that d

Re: What is up with perl5.26 on Snow Leo?

2021-11-29 Thread Bjarne D Mathiesen
This looks as the same problem we have with MySQL57, where it's using the system cctools instaead of the more modern cctools from macports. The fix is described here : https://trac.macports.org/ticket/59072#comment:1 declare usrBin='/usr/bin' declare devBin="/Developer${usrBin}" while read -u 9

Re: is macports getting rusty?

2021-11-29 Thread Chris Jones
To first order builds are done on a first-committed-first-built basis. The time a build takes is not something known up front so prioritizing basis on this would anyway not really be feasible. Yes, the builders must install the dependencies of a port before a given port can be built. If one

Re: What is up with perl5.26 on Snow Leo?

2021-11-29 Thread Uli Wienands
Well, I wonder whether someone did something within the last day or two. I just tried it again, and lo-and-behold, perl5.26 installed just fine & now MacPorts is getting to work on the backlog of things that I could not update because of this problem. This after I just found out (in debug mode