Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

> On Nov 16, 2016, at 12:09, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > > On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> The only thing that could be done would be a slight delay between >> master and "stable". For example everything that's in master would go >> to "quasi-stable" after a week unless some

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > The only thing that could be done would be a slight delay between > master and "stable". For example everything that's in master would go > to "quasi-stable" after a week unless some problems are discovered > (and then the port would be held ba

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

On 8 November 2016 at 20:26, Bachsau wrote: > Am 08.11.2016 um 06:57 schrieb Ryan Schmidt: >> >> Also, who decides what is stable? >> >> Who decides when to update it? > > Apple. A new stable version should be released for every iteration of macOS. This would possibly be the lease useful approach.

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On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 08:26:21PM +0100, Bachsau wrote: > Stable, as I see it, means every port in every available variant > builds out of the box That alone is not testable. For example, the nginx port has 32 variants. For each variant, you can either enable it, or not, so for each variant you h

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

Am 08.11.2016 um 06:57 schrieb Ryan Schmidt: Also, who decides what is stable? Stable, as I see it, means every port in every available variant builds out of the box and does not have major incompatibilities with other ports. Who decides when to update it? Apple. A new stable version shoul

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

> > Taking on a labor-intensive editorial role does not make MacPorts better at > installing open-source software. > Although that statement in and of itself is true, I didn’t that as the topic of this email line, nor the standard by which all is to be judged. However - indeed - message recei

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

On 06/11/16 17:28, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Ken Cunningham wrote: While MacPorts itself could certainly benefit from better PR, I do not see why we should do free advertising for upstream developers. but you see - macports exists to allow people to more easily

Re: Macports needs a little marketing

Back when it still worked, Porticus was my favorite GUI for MacPorts; but that was long ago, and it wasn't updated to work after a particular MacPorts update. > On Nov 7, 2016, at 05:01, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > > >> On Nov 7, 2016, at 00:59, [ftp83plus] wrote: >> >> Newbie here: how it is d

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:08 AM, Bachsau wrote: > > > > Am 06.11.16 um 02:42 schrieb Ryan Schmidt: >> We do need to market ourselves a bit better, and that includes redesigning >> our web presence, which I plan to do once the migration off of macOS forge >> is completed. > > I think we need qu

Re: Macports needs a little marketing

That is what spooked me too. If that could not happen, I kind of liked using it. On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 1:17 AM, Yongwei Wu wrote: > The tool seems quite useful. However, I had a big problem with it. I > tried to use it to uninstall a few inactive ports from the "Inactive" > ports UI. However, a

Re: Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

Am 06.11.16 um 02:42 schrieb Ryan Schmidt: We do need to market ourselves a bit better, and that includes redesigning our web presence, which I plan to do once the migration off of macOS forge is completed. I think we need quality assurance and stable releases per macOS version. I wished M

Re: Macports needs a little marketing

On 11/7/16 5:51 AM, Guido Soranzio wrote: On Nov 7, 2016, at 00:59, [ftp83plus] wrote: Newbie here: how it is different from Pallet? Pallet makes use of the MacPorts_Framework, the official way to interact with the Tcl-based APIs by the Cocoa programs. MacPorts_Framework is broken, no? JP

Re: Re: Macports needs a little marketing

Some hours ago I wrote: > JPortsUI parses directly the output of the ‘port’ command > (“screen scraping”) and could stop working if a new release of > the command would change the output format JPortsUI also scans directly /opt/local/var/macports/sources/rsync.macports.org/release/tarballs/po

Re: Re: Macports needs a little marketing

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 00:59, [ftp83plus] wrote: > > Newbie here: how it is different from Pallet? Pallet makes use of the MacPorts_Framework, the official way to interact with the Tcl-based APIs by the Cocoa programs. JPortsUI parses directly the output of the ‘port’ command (“screen scraping”

Re: Macports needs a little marketing

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 03:17, Yongwei Wu wrote: > > The tool seems quite useful. However, I had a big problem with it. I > tried to use it to uninstall a few inactive ports from the "Inactive" > ports UI. However, as it uses the "-u" option, it automatically > uninstalled ALL my inactive ports. T

Re: Macports needs a little marketing

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 00:59, [ftp83plus] wrote: > > Newbie here: how it is different from Pallet? JPortsUI is written in Java; Pallet is not. I expect the UI also differs; I haven't compared them. > I don't know if pallet is still developed as no one seems to talk about it, Pallet is curre

Re: Macports needs a little marketing

The tool seems quite useful. However, I had a big problem with it. I tried to use it to uninstall a few inactive ports from the "Inactive" ports UI. However, as it uses the "-u" option, it automatically uninstalled ALL my inactive ports. This is counter-intuitive and NOT nice. I do not see any con

Re: Macports needs a little marketing

Newbie here: how it is different from Pallet? I don't know if pallet is still developed as no one seems to talk about it, Enviado desde mi iPhone > El 7 nov 2016, a las 1:16, Stephen Baber escribió: > > Hi, author of JPortsUI here. JPortsUI can run on all newer versions > (7 & 8) of the JRE bu

Re: Macports needs a little marketing

Hi, author of JPortsUI here. JPortsUI can run on all newer versions (7 & 8) of the JRE but I've kept compatibility with JRE6 for any Lion or Snow Leopard users out there as Oracle does not deploy JRE8 to platforms older than OSX 10.8 Mountain Lion. I still test JPortsUI to insure compatibility wi

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Ken Cunningham wrote: >> While MacPorts itself could certainly benefit from better PR, I do not >> see why we should do free advertising for upstream developers. > > but you see - macports exists to allow people to more easily install the > products of these upstre

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

> > > While MacPorts itself could certainly benefit from better PR, I do not > see why we should do free advertising for upstream developers. but you see - macports exists to allow people to more easily install the products of these upstream developers. otherwise macports has no use. If you w

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

On 2016-11-06, at 8:21 AM, Ken Cunningham wrote: > > Now to go get a cup of coffee and figure out how to fix this mess... > > > Ken Restore all of /opt from Time Machine? --- Entertaining minecraft videos http://YouTube.com/keybounce

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> > > Now to go get a cup of coffee and figure out how to fix this mess... > Ah, wasn't that bad after all. Looks like just all my 'inactive' versions of those ports were taken out. Perhaps that was a cleanup option in there that I didn't notice. Whew! K

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

> On Nov 6, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Ken Cunningham > wrote: > > But that doesn't take away from the idea that a way of showcasing what > ports are available, how they work, when they were last updated, and > what people think of them would be a good idea. While MacPorts itself could certainly benefi

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> > JPortsUI lets you choose the number of days the ports have been updated within > (“What’s new?” button). > > The latest binary available dates back to 2013.03 but it is still working and > is much more zippy and stable than Pallet: > . Well - a po

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On 2016-11-06 Rainer Müller wrote: >> Yeah — what is needed, perhaps, is an “App Store” for macports… > Like Pallet, the GUI for MacPorts? Unfortunately it is not in a usable > state at the moment. JPortsUI lets you choose the number of days the ports have been updated within (“What’s new?”

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On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 01:20 AM, Guido Soranzio wrote: > >> On 6 Nov 2016, at 10:01, Al Varnell wrote: >> >> It would be even better if it was updated to run using a currently supported >> version of Oracle Java rather than requiring legacy (deprecated and less >> secure) Apple supplied Java

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> On 6 Nov 2016, at 10:01, Al Varnell wrote: > > It would be even better if it was updated to run using a currently supported > version of Oracle Java rather than requiring legacy (deprecated and less > secure) Apple supplied Java SE 6. I just tested JPortsUI on a fresh install of macOS Sier

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 01:38 AM, Guido Soranzio wrote: > > > On 2016-11-06 Rainer Müller wrote: >>> Yeah — what is needed, perhaps, is an “App Store” for macports… > >> Like Pallet, the GUI for MacPorts? Unfortunately it is not in a usable >> state at the moment. > > JPortsUI lets you choo

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

On 2016-11-06 02:16, Ken Cunningham wrote: > Yeah — what is needed, perhaps, is an “App Store” for macports… Like Pallet, the GUI for MacPorts? Unfortunately it is not in a usable state at the moment. https://trac.macports.org/wiki/MacPortsGUI >> On Nov 5, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Michael David Crawfo

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

We do need to market ourselves a bit better, and that includes redesigning our web presence, which I plan to do once the migration off of macOS forge is completed. We did already years ago add a feature to MacPorts that lets users opt-in to submitting information about which ports they install

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Yeah — what is needed, perhaps, is an “App Store” for macports… Ken > On Nov 5, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Michael David Crawford > wrote: > > Perhaps Debian's popularity contest would help with this. It tracks > which programs one runs, and how frequently.

Re: Macports needs a little marketing ....

Perhaps Debian's popularity contest would help with this. It tracks which programs one runs, and how frequently. Michael David Crawford, Baritone mdcrawf...@gmail.com One Must Not Trifle With Wizards For It Makes Us Soggy And Hard To Light. On Sat, Nov 5, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Ken Cunningham

Macports needs a little marketing ....

I’m always amazed by the things the ports in MacPorts can do that I never imagined. With so many ports, it can sometimes be difficult to stumble across the real gems, or even to realize just what a certain port can help you do. I’m sure even after 10 years of using MacPorts I’ve barely scratche