Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-29 Thread William H. Magill via macports-users
> On Sep 28, 2018, at 6:32 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Sep 28, 2018, at 13:20, Michael wrote: > >> On 2018-09-28, at 9:50 AM, Thomas Bodlien wrote: >> >>> But why? >>> What do you need 32-Bit Support for? >> >> Wine is probably the best example of a 32 bit only port right now. > > Wine

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-28 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Sep 28, 2018, at 13:20, Michael wrote: > On 2018-09-28, at 9:50 AM, Thomas Bodlien wrote: > >> But why? >> What do you need 32-Bit Support for? > > Wine is probably the best example of a 32 bit only port right now. Wine isn't 32-bit only; it's universal. And with a few changes to the Port

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-28 Thread Michael
On 2018-09-28, at 9:50 AM, Thomas Bodlien wrote: > But why? > What do you need 32-Bit Support for? Wine is probably the best example of a 32 bit only port right now. --- Entertaining minecraft videos http://YouTube.com/keybounce

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-28 Thread Dominik Reichardt
Am 28.09.2018 um 18:50 schrieb Thomas Bodlien : >> >> Well, on second thought, if you want to generate 32bit executables with the >> newest compilers, it should be possible to build LLVM 7.0 and use it with >> the MacOS 10.13 SDK. So, no need to be limited to older compiler versions. >> And I

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-28 Thread Ces VLC
El El vie, 28 sept 2018 a las 18:50, Thomas Bodlien < creative-software-des...@t-online.de> escribió: > > But why? > What do you need 32-Bit Support for? I said it in a previous message: for testing purposes and code quality verification (yes, I can use a 32bit Linux VM for that, but I prefer to k

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-28 Thread Thomas Bodlien
> > Well, on second thought, if you want to generate 32bit executables with the > newest compilers, it should be possible to build LLVM 7.0 and use it with > the MacOS 10.13 SDK. So, no need to be limited to older compiler versions. > And I think that's in fact what I'm going to do in Mojave. > >

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-28 Thread Ces VLC
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:17 PM Dominik Reichardt wrote: > > At least for command line building of things this will be a way to keep old xxode around. Well, on second thought, if you want to generate 32bit executables with the newest compilers, it should be possible to build LLVM 7.0 and use it

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-27 Thread Dominik Reichardt
At least for command line building of things this will be a way to keep old xxode around. > Am 27.09.2018 um 12:08 schrieb Ces VLC : > > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:01 PM Richard L. Hamilton > wrote: > > > > Clearly you can install 9.4.1 on Mojave...and it seems to work at least for > >

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-27 Thread Ces VLC
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:01 PM Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > > Clearly you can install 9.4.1 on Mojave...and it seems to work at least for trivial code, even compiling to 32 bit: [...] > I have both installed, and simply switched the command line instances with > [...] Thanks! I didn't consider

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-27 Thread Ces VLC
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 11:41 AM Chris Jones wrote: [...] > As far as I am aware it is not possible, but even if it where its not a > solution, to require all macOS 10.13 users to stick with Xcode 9. Yes, it doesn't seem reasonable, but I admit I was asking this question not just thinking in Mac

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Clearly you can install 9.4.1 on Mojave...and it seems to work at least for trivial code, even compiling to 32 bit: sh-3.2$ uname -a Darwin bigapple-mojave.pri 18.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 18.0.0: Wed Aug 22 20:13:40 PDT 2018; root:xnu-4903.201.2~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 sh-3.2$ xcode-select --pr

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-27 Thread Chris Jones
On 27/09/18 10:00, Ces VLC wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 7:54 PM Ryan Schmidt > wrote: [...] > Mojave requires Xcode 10 which contains only the 10.14 SDK. Is it really required? Is it not possible to use Xcode 9.4.1 on Mojave? (I'm asking because I thought

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-27 Thread Ces VLC
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 7:54 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: [...] > Mojave requires Xcode 10 which contains only the 10.14 SDK. Is it really required? Is it not possible to use Xcode 9.4.1 on Mojave? (I'm asking because I thought Xcode had a requirement for the minimum MacOS version it could run on, rath

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-20 Thread Ian Wadham
> On 20 Sep 2018, at 6:04 pm, Chris Jones wrote: > On 20/09/18 06:35, Ian Wadham wrote: >>> On 20 Sep 2018, at 3:54 am, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2018, at 11:54, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >>> So I think that the 10.13 SDK on Mojave, assuming one can still build agains

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-20 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, On 20/09/18 06:35, Ian Wadham wrote: On 20 Sep 2018, at 3:54 am, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Sep 19, 2018, at 11:54, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: So I think that the 10.13 SDK on Mojave, assuming one can still build against it there, may well be a short-term answer. Mojave requires Xcode 1

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-19 Thread Ian Wadham
> On 20 Sep 2018, at 3:54 am, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Sep 19, 2018, at 11:54, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > >> So I think that the 10.13 SDK on Mojave, assuming one can still build >> against it there, may well be a short-term answer. > > Mojave requires Xcode 10 which contains only the 10

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-19 Thread Ken Cunningham
> Mojave requires Xcode 10 which contains only the 10.14 SDK. MacPorts doesn't > have any particular support at this time for accessing alternative SDKs that > the user might have placed in other locations. I've been forcing MacPorts to do "bad" things for years, building stuff on 10.6.8 that h

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-19 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Sep 19, 2018, at 11:54, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > So I think that the 10.13 SDK on Mojave, assuming one can still build against > it there, may well be a short-term answer. Mojave requires Xcode 10 which contains only the 10.14 SDK. MacPorts doesn't have any particular support at this

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-19 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Sep 19, 2018, at 10:25, m...@macports.org wrote: > On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Vincent Habchi wrote: > One specific change in Mojave is the deprecation of 32-bit software. Mojave can run existing 32-bit software but can't build 32-bit software anymore [3] so MacPorts can't

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> On Sep 19, 2018, at 11:49, Julien Salort wrote: > > Le 19/09/2018 à 17:12, Ken Cunningham a écrit : > >> I haven't dived into Mojave yet, but if all the system libraries in >> /usr/lib and all the Frameworks are x86_64 only, then I don't see how that >> could work, even if you compiled ag

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-19 Thread Julien Salort
Le 19/09/2018 à 17:12, Ken Cunningham a écrit : I haven't dived into Mojave yet, but if all the system libraries in /usr/lib and all the Frameworks are x86_64 only, then I don't see how that could work, even if you compiled against an SDK (like the 10.13 SDK) that still has i386 support. I d

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-19 Thread mf2k
> On Sep 19, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Vincent Habchi wrote: > >>> One specific change in Mojave is the deprecation of 32-bit software. Mojave >>> can run existing 32-bit software but can't build 32-bit software anymore >>> [3] so MacPorts can't offer 32-bit software on Mojave. >> I don't need it, b

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-19 Thread Ken Cunningham
> The 10.14 SDK doesn’t embed the 32-bit libraries anymore. I suppose if you > compile clang/llvm from MacPorts, you can still continue to develop i386 > software, though access to Cocoa would be problematic. I haven't dived into Mojave yet, but if all the system libraries in /usr/lib and all t

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-19 Thread Vincent Habchi
>> One specific change in Mojave is the deprecation of 32-bit software. Mojave >> can run existing 32-bit software but can't build 32-bit software anymore [3] >> so MacPorts can't offer 32-bit software on Mojave. > I don't need it, but out of curiosity, what exactely isn't provided by Apple > th

Re: User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-19 Thread Julien Salort
Le 18/09/2018 à 19:35, Ryan Schmidt a écrit : One specific change in Mojave is the deprecation of 32-bit software. Mojave can run existing 32-bit software but can't build 32-bit software anymore [3] so MacPorts can't offer 32-bit software on Mojave. I don't need it, but out of curiosity, what

User information about macOS Mojave

2018-09-18 Thread Ryan Schmidt
Apple has announced [1] that macOS Mojave (10.14) will be released on September 24, 2018. Mojave removes support for some older Macs; see the system requirements for more details [2]. As with any new macOS release, there are likely to be problems with several ports on this new macOS version, wh