Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks (or go to RubyMotion?)

2013-11-24 Thread Joshua Ballanco
sta) > > 2. Re: MacRuby on Mavericks (Robert Carl Rice) > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 22:27:42 +0100 > > From: rob ista mailto:[email protected]

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks (or go to RubyMotion?)

2013-11-22 Thread rob ista
vericks (Robert Carl Rice) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 22:27:42 +0100 > From: rob ista > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windo

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-13 Thread Joshua Ballanco
On Sunday, November 10, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Robert Carl Rice wrote: > > On Nov 7, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Joshua Ballanco (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > * MacRuby integration with Xcode relies on rb-nibtool, but the Xcode team > > has repeatedly signaled (not so subtly) that they are not interes

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-10 Thread Robert Carl Rice
Hi Rob, One other comment on your example. I see that you have subclassed NSWindowController in your AppDelegate. That is good for the window to be restorable. However, NSWindowController will define it's own window property as an IBOutlet so you don't want to override that with your own windo

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-10 Thread Robert Carl Rice
Thanks Rob, I wasn't familiar with that syntax. I like referencing the Obj-C property from the documentation perspective. It distinguishes my references to IBOutlets from references to ruby class variables. Bob On Nov 10, 2013, at 4:19 AM, rob ista wrote: > Isn’t it enough to have a Class.h

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-10 Thread rob ista
> Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MacRuby on Mavericks (Robert Carl Rice) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 01:16:12 -0500 > From: Robert Carl Rice > To: "MacRuby development discussions." >

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-09 Thread Robert Carl Rice
On Nov 7, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Joshua Ballanco wrote: > * MacRuby integration with Xcode relies on rb-nibtool, but the Xcode team has > repeatedly signaled (not so subtly) that they are not interested in keeping > this shim working. I assume that rb-nibtool scans rb files to identify possible IB

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-07 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 20:09:49 +0100 Matthias Neeracher wrote: > Thanks for your detailed explanation. > > On Nov 7, 2013, at 15:07, Joshua Ballanco > wrote: > > I had planed on writing a longer message to the list but, having > > just started a new gig, time is severely lacking. Also, it seems >

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-07 Thread Matthias Neeracher
Thanks for your detailed explanation. On Nov 7, 2013, at 15:07, Joshua Ballanco wrote: > I had planed on writing a longer message to the list but, having just started > a new gig, time is severely lacking. Also, it seems it'll be at least 2-3 > weeks (thank Apple store ship times) before I get

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-07 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 09:52:44 -0500 Robert Carl Rice wrote: > Hi David, > > The implementation of Grand Central Dispatch in MacRuby works great > and I converted all of calls to NSTimer to GCD. It probably has > enough functionality to avoid any Kludgy solution, e.g., calling > Unix fork directly

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-07 Thread Robert Carl Rice
probable no really good technical reason to remove the capability for >>>> desktop apps. So I would have been surprised if Apple had removed GC in >>>> Mavericks and I still would be surprised if Apple does that anytime soon, >>>> if they do that at all. &

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-07 Thread Joshua Ballanco
maintain a couple of relatively large applications. > > The problem with RubyMotion is that it does an end-run around Xcode and > > since my apps do lots of initialization using NIB files it may be as much > > work for me to convert to RubyMotion as it will be to rewrite in > > objective-C. > > > > I don't have any insi

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-07 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 11:20:13 +0200 david kramf wrote: > I have a project that written in MacRuby but I can split the code > to logic in Ruby and the UI which I can translate to Objective-C . > So My problem is how to run a pure Ruby from my app. I was thinking > of opening an AppleScript terminal

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-07 Thread david kramf
nesome programmer such as >>> myself to develop and maintain a couple of relatively large applications. >>> The problem with RubyMotion is that it does an end-run around Xcode and >>> since my apps do lots of initialization using NIB files it may be as much >>&

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-06 Thread Robert Carl Rice
Hi Kevin, No, except that when I tried to upgrade to Mavericks I got undefined class object errors from the MacRuby framework as per Rob Ista's message. Hopefully it's just a load order problem. Bob Rice On Nov 6, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote: > On 11/6/13, 9:00 PM, Robert Carl Rice

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-06 Thread Kevin Walzer
On 11/6/13, 9:00 PM, Robert Carl Rice wrote: The iTunes Store has notified me that my current binaries will be removed from the store for not being compatible with the current OS release. Recoding for either RubyMotion or Objective-C will be a big job and I'm not looking forward to it. Can y

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-06 Thread Robert Carl Rice
h RubyMotion is that it does an end-run around Xcode and >> since my apps do lots of initialization using NIB files it may be as much >> work for me to convert to RubyMotion as it will be to rewrite in objective-C. >> >> I don't have any inside information on Apple's thinking, but I suspect that

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-06 Thread Robert Carl Rice
itialization using NIB files it may be as much >> work for me to convert to RubyMotion as it will be to rewrite in objective-C. >> >> I don't have any inside information on Apple's thinking, but I suspect that >> may be worth the effort to upgrade MacRu

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-06 Thread rob ista
x27;ll let you know > when I find out if the App Store will still still support MacRuby apps. > > Bob Rice > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 09:46:14 +0100 > From: Mark Villacampa > To: "MacRuby develo

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-05 Thread Stephen Horne
On 5 Nov 2013, at 18:42, Robert Carl Rice wrote: Thanks, I took a quick look at IB gem documentation. It looks like a possibility for me although it also looks like it could be difficult to maintain. You have to run rake ib:open every time you make a change in your ruby files. I suppose you

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-05 Thread Robert Carl Rice
Hi Mark, Thanks, I took a quick look at IB gem documentation. It looks like a possibility for me although it also looks like it could be difficult to maintain. You have to run rake ib:open every time you make a change in your ruby files. Ruby programmers will have a natural aversion to anythin

Re: [MacRuby-devel] MacRuby on Mavericks

2013-11-05 Thread Mark Villacampa
Hey Bob, Have you seen the IB gem? It let's you use nibs with Rubymotion with minimal changes in your MacRuby code. https://github.com/yury/ib Sent from my iPhone > On 05/11/2013, at 04:02, Robert Carl Rice wrote: > > Hi, > > Nice that I sparked some discussion. > > One of the reasons that