Re: Apple is shrugging off Responsibility for Accessibility

2009-06-09 Thread Brent Harding
Hmmm, I don't think this is necessarily the case. What I'd say it is is that it is their terminology for a graphics labeler so that we can label things we find in apps that haven't been fixed yet. Without that, we'd just have to live with the unknown unlabeled buttons that are around now and

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-09 Thread Jenny Kennedy
I didn't like this article for the most part. I didn't think it was quite fair. In fact I thought it was pretty negitive. One thing I tell other blind people about Mac and VoiceOver is to keep firm in their mind it is not Windows and JAWS or WindowEyes. Compairing Apples and Microsofts is like

Re: Voiceover on iPhone demo was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread James Dietz
Sounds to me like an improved version of Agness. I'm guessing the voice shown in the guided tour during the voice control section is the same used for VO feedback. James On 6/9/09, Alex Jurgensen asquare...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Yep. Sure is.. Regards, Alex, On 9-Jun-09, at 8:42 PM,

Re: My iPhone

2009-06-09 Thread Jenny Kennedy
Hi, I totally am with ya there. The only bad thing is they don't have the iPhone on Tmobile and I'm not sure I can switch to ATT. I hope that perhaps they can get the iPhone to work with Tmobile. At any rate I was so thrilled. The possibility is endless now. Just think. Maybe they can come out

Re: My iPhone

2009-06-09 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Its a great time for people needing speech. We have the iphone with voiceover and later this summer we have research in motion coming out with a blackberry that talks. And the research seams to be coming along for having speech on the gooogle phones by the end of the year. Lots of

More iPhone: This Is exciting

2009-06-09 Thread Buddy Brannan
I'm listening to the WWDC keynote now, and I just heard something exciting. It says that Apple is allowing developers (plural, he said developers, which could mean more than just Tomtom) to build apps with turn by turn directions, built on the maps application. If I understand this

Re: Apple is shrugging off Responsibility for Accessibility

2009-06-09 Thread Buddy Brannan
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:45 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: Hi, Did you guys see the feature to add descriptions to elements. It sounds a lot like FS's JAWS Scripts, don't you think. No, I don't think. It sounds more like the labeling functions available in most screen readers for the past 15

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Buddy Brannan
On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:02 AM, Brent Harding wrote: Ah, so that means that we will probably not see something useful for the blind unless we could accessibly jailbreak and keep VO in tact. What?! Which part of All apps that ship with the phone will work with Voiceover was unclear?

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Chris Blouch
As I had mentioned in the past, the non-S model of iPhone didn't have enough power to do real text to speech so I was kinda hoping we'd have VO with the newly released model. That also means we won't have this migrating to iPods and such anytime soon. Hope it works well in the real world. CB

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Chris Blouch
I believe this was due to the 2 year contract that would have to be broken. There has been some discussion about this in other forums. So if you've got most of a two year contract on your current phone and want to break it to get an iPhone it's going to cost you. This is probably an ATT thing

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Actually i've done this successfully, by hijacking system audio, hijacking my mic, and going back to the system audio session, and hitting record on that. On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Brent Harding wrote: What, there's a feature in OSX to run an app I download through to fix most of the

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Justin Harford
It is actually very clear. Just google it and you will find that the ATT Apple contract expires in 2010. On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Larry Wanger wrote: Scott, In a couple of previous messages you've said that the iPhone will be on the Verizon network. I'm not sure about the validity of

Re: Macbook numpad

2009-06-09 Thread Justin Harford
Not sure if it has but you should send a message about this to apple. Ask them and let them know that you would like it back. That is how things get moving, when customers tell the provider what they want. On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:28 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote: Good evening, Does anyone know if

Re: Apple is shrugging off Responsibility for Accessibility

2009-06-09 Thread Justin Harford
The subject line here is complete nonsense. On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Brent Harding wrote: Hmmm, I don't think this is necessarily the case. What I'd say it is is that it is their terminology for a graphics labeler so that we can label things we find in apps that haven't been fixed

Re: mac voiceover in braille monitor

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Reiser
I agree with everything said. Mac popularity has grown despite access world which buy the way did write a very nice review of lepard last September. I don't think blind people will just go buy that as a facter. I really think the younger blind crowd will embrace mac more and the older

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