Sounds like you tried doing a search for friends and it is not finding any
results. When Facebook finds no results, there are no links. That's why the web
item rotor shows 0 links.
On Jul 6, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> I don't know if this is voiceover or Facebook issue.
> I try to nav
Hi,
It's absolutely my favourite client, and very powerful, in my opinion -- I've
never used anything quite as great as yorufukurou for twitter.
At any rate, if you look at the menus, there is a keyboard command by every
single action.
I'd just read the menus, and learn the commands.
Cheers,
Naam
Hi,
Just look in the menus. Most if not all the commands in the menus have a
keystroke besides it. The ones that don't and you want to have a keystroke,
you can add yourself.
Ricardo Walker
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On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:25
Hi,
around how old is the keyboard? Maybe it doesn't have the HID profile thats
need to work on the iPhone.
Ricardo Walker
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On Jul 6, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Craig J Dunlop wrote:
> I am trying to get my iPhone 4 to see my
Hi:
Sorry if this has been repeated, but, I'm wondering about the upgrade.
I understand Lion will be available from the app store. If I do this, will
there be any way to make an install disk, or, do I need to order from Apple to
get an install disk?
Any information would be helpful.
Thanks!
Mike, how about making a podcast of this? Just a suggestion. :)
On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:16 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> We should be able to install it without sighted help, it can be installed as
> an upgrade, though I plan to make an install disk, erase my hard drive and
> install from scratch, ins
Use Time Machine to make a backup of your user partition. Then use Migration
Assistant to transfer all your data--apps, settings, files, etc.--to the new
account after installing Lion. It'll be as if you'd just put the computer to
sleep and woken it up again, only now it'll have Lion on it and
one more question.
I am new to the mac and have a couple of apps i have downloaded and installed
on the macbook. but when I got my macbook it had pages installed and I do not
find a disk. is that from the app store ore do I need to make a install disk
some how.
On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Mike
how do I make a install disk for my macbook? I always like to install a new os
insted of a upgrade!
old habits and bad experiences from windows dye hard!
On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> We should be able to install it without sighted help, it can be installed as
> an upgrade, t
Hi all:
I've poked around, and if this option is available, I can't see it. I want to
follow a hash tag, specifically #ACB11, so I can see whenever anyone tweets
using this hash tag. I would think this option would be available, but I can't
seem to find it. Any suggestions/help would be appr
We should be able to install it without sighted help, it can be installed as an
upgrade, though I plan to make an install disk, erase my hard drive and install
from scratch, installing a version of an operating system over the top of
another is a recipe for problems.
On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:03 AM,
Hi Johnny:
There are two guides and a tutorial on your computer. There is the getting
started VO tutorial, you can access by pressing vo-command-f8. There is the
Welcome to Snowleopard, and also user guide all right in that handy-dandy
little machine. If you press command-spacebar, you will b
I am trying to get my iPhone 4 to see my hp ipaq folding bluetooth keyboard. no
mater what I do I cant get them connected. I used the keyboard years ago with
my trekker. any ideas as to what the problem could be?
thanks for any help
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I've found that quitting Skype fixes it, regardless of what other programs are
running. Interestingly, my father swears by Magic Jack and hasn't had this
problem. *shrug* Oh well; not that many people call me anyway.
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Mark,
I haven't experienced this with Skype, but I have a Magic Jack, and often have
the same problem. I think the interference has something to do with the
internet connecting with the land lines, cell phones, etc. I experience this
when talking to people who have cell phones more than land
I don't know if this is voiceover or Facebook issue.
I try to navigate to search or add new friends and then use the web item rotor
and find there no items in it at all. help!
I have to turn off VO and restart before items become visible again. anyone
have any idea whats going on here?
-Eric
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another problem I've sometimes had occurs during Skype calls to telephones, or
from them. A few minutes into the conversation, callers report that my audio
breaks up and is shot through with a clicking type static which makes it
impossible to understand me. Since I'm using Skype as my main hom
I'd love a list of keyboard commands for this program as well. I'm using it as
a back-up for receiving direct messages until
qwitter is updated to handle them again. I like it fairly well, but to me,
nothing will ever beat the convenience of qwitter.
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is there a good list of keyboard commands for this program?
thanks
I'me sure it will get easer when I stop using qwitter commands! thanks for any
help.
On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> no. Command right arrow doesn't do this either. its command shift left or
> rig
Hi Lou!
As far as I know!
As long as the headset is A2dp compliant it should work!
So it will come down to your like's and budget and style!
Sorry if I got it wrong but people use them with Iphones and it should not be
different for Mac's!
Colin
On 6 Jul 2011, at 22:36, BlindMacMan wrote:
> Than
Ok, then how do I know which address did the mac get from my router?
Thanks.
Original message:
Over a network you can mount Mac file shares on your PC. On the Mac
you'll need to turn on File Sharing in the Sharing Preference and go to
Options to turn on Share files and folders using SMB and then
Thanks, Chris, for your explanation! Does anyone have any ideas on a
bluetooth headset that will work with the Mini and VoiceOver?
Lou.
On Jul 5, 2:28 pm, Chris Blouch wrote:
> If I recall correctly the main issue was the Mac scans for what kind
> ofmonitoris hooked up and will continue to try u
Hello,
A few months ago, I saw a message on this list about AppleTV
I know that this is a little off topic, but can someone tell me if AppleTV
is good accessible with voiceover? I would like also to know if text input
is easy. For example whet you search something in your Itunes library.
Thank
Hi Doug,
Good to hear you've got this working, and thanks for posting the solution. This
is worth saving. I was trying to look up the instructions Grant Hardy posted on
the viphone list two weeks ago, but you got the answer before I could post. The
relevant steps were changing the radio button
I've got it fixed and here is what I did. It turns out if you press the
Universal Access Button and find that the VoiceOver radio button is selected,
then press ok VoiceOver will not get turned on on the device.
1. Connect the phone to itunes and let it sync.
2. Find the iPhone in the source lis
Over a network you can mount Mac file shares on your PC. On the Mac
you'll need to turn on File Sharing in the Sharing Preference and go to
Options to turn on Share files and folders using SMB and then enable
which accounts on your mac are allowed in from Windows. Once all that is
done from you
Hello Doug,
Perhaps the volume on your iOS device has been turned all the way down.
Just a thought.
Dan
On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:16 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> Hello list:
> I just restored the phone to factory default settings and can get VoiceOver
> enabled.
> I connected the phone to iTunes and let
One snag with backing up to a remote time machine volume is to make sure
that the volume is dedicated to time machine. TM will keep adding
backups until the volume is full and then start deleting the oldest
editions. Before I realized this I had tried to use a data drive that
had my itunes and
Hello list:
I just restored the phone to factory default settings and can get VoiceOver
enabled.
I connected the phone to iTunes and let it sync. I then located the phone in
the source table, interacted with the scroll area, pressed the universal access
button, made sure that the VoiceOver radio
You can also do command, shift right and left arrows, it works for me, at least.
Cheers,
Naama
On 6 Jul 2011, at 20:52, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> command tab? I don't think so. To view your DM's, you need tp press command
> shift left or right bracket to switch between your timeline ment
Mark,
I love your answer and concur with it, completely. (Smile)
Michael,
Using Skype to enter extensions while on a call can be tricky. This is because
of the latency factor.
While I have never encountered this problem using Skype for the Mac, I often
encounter it when using Skype on my Wi
Hello Christopher,
For some reason, I always thought one could completely reset all preferences on
a Mac by deleting the preferences folder.
Now keep in mind that I came by this idea back when OS 8 was the big thing.
So, in no way am I suggesting that you do this but I'm hoping that more
exper
Hi,
I'll answer this on list since people are wanting to use iTunes with a nas.
Like any other nas, the linkstations have a web interface that lets
you control its features and setup shares. It does have some client
software for pc and mac, but it doesn't really do that much; all it
does on windo
I've heard 14 july.Î
On 2011-07-06, at 10:10 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> It would be nice if it came out today. But I suspect next week we will see
> Lion. I can hardly wait for it to come out. Looking forward to the new
> features.
>
> Doug
>
> On 2011-07-06, at 11:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilla
Greetings all,
Thanks much to Chris, Zack and anyone else who might be willing to spend some
time getting me started.
I compiled a simple c++ file via the g++ command. Despite receiving no
indication of an error, the executable did not reflect my changes. My error
may be relevant, so I'll me
hi, Chriss,
Colloquy has a "new connection" option in the file menu. The control to enter
your server is indeed an edit combo. There is a checkbox there to "remember
this connection. Also if you go to your connections window, each remembered
connection is listed in it. If you go into the prefer
Why would you do that?
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On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> I so want the thing! I may wait a while for people to install and give me
> their feed back before installing although I'll b
OH!
I'm so sorry. This does work. You need to be in the table though. My bad.
Ricardo Walker
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www.mobileaccess.org
On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> no. Command right arrow doesn't do this either. its comman
I'm not trying to argue with you, but I navigate between twitter's buffers with
command left and right arrow all the time. It
works like a dream. I've never even heard of commands involving the brackets. I
love it that once you're in the buffer you
want, you can just use the plain arrow keys to r
Hi,
no. Command right arrow doesn't do this either. its command shift left or
right bracket.
hth
Ricardo Walker
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On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> Oh my! Talk about a brain freeze. I meant command ri
Hello, I have finally gotten my hands on a copy of windows home premium. My
questions do not relate to the mac directly, so I don't want to break any list
rules or clutter up the list. So anyone who feels they are a better than
average VM fusion user, please email me at
skhleirpehctcoens7...@g
lol,
sorry. I meant on or after june 6 of this year.
Ricardo Walker
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On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:58 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> You get a free update to lion if you bought a Mac before or after june 6 of
> this year.
>
> R
You get a free update to lion if you bought a Mac before or after june 6 of
this year.
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On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:04 PM, richard watson wrote:
> On 7/6/11, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
>> I can't wait either, since
Hi,
to each there own of course but, I'm not sure why waiting seems so attractive.
If you don't like it, just pop back in your snow leopard DVD and re install
that. IDK. If you know your going to by it regardless, why wait? I'm fairly
confident Apple wouldn't release it if it had some catas
Oh my! Talk about a brain freeze. I meant command right arrow.
Sorry!
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Subject: Re: how
Hi,
command tab? I don't think so. To view your DM's, you need tp press command
shift left or right bracket to switch between your timeline mentions DMs, etc.
Ricardo Walker
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Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296
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On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Missy Hoppe w
Hi,
I'm using an M-Audio oxygen 49 key midi keyboard. It works great with GB.
Its just plug and play.
Ricardo Walker
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Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On Jul 6, 2011, at 5:20 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> Hi,
> Please forgive me if this is way off
Hi,
This isn't just an apple thing. Many netbooks, and other laptops don't have
the full complement of function keys on both sides of the spacebar.
Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter, Skype, & AIM: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org
On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:21 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> Ma
That is decidedly odd, and no rational explanation for that behavior comes to
mind. That having been said, I must conclude that your computer is possessed
by a demon, and I recommend having a shaman walk around it three times reciting
the Lloyds (of London) prayer backwards in Esperanto.
• M
Hi Mark,
This idea sort of worked, but only sort of:
1. Pressing Command-2 indeed permitted me to generate touchtones, but no
matter how quickly I pressed and released a key, the tones were sustained and
in almost every instance, the tones beeped twice.
2. Sometimes, although I know which nu
Sorry Ritchard, I didn't see any message above any of the original messages in
your posting.
Chris.
On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:04 PM, richard watson wrote:
> On 7/6/11, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
>> I can't wait either, since I get it free.
>> Kliphton SR
>> (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
>> (Mar
My question is why you want to do that in the first place. That's kind a
barbaric.
Chris.
On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I guess you only can do one of 2 things:
> 1. Reinstall your Mac
> 2. Restore your mac from a backup.
> Best regards
> Thomas
>
>
>
Press command tab twice. That should do the trick. Then, your up and down
arrows should work just like they do in your main
timeline.
Good luck, and I hope this helps.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of james wal
Definitely want more info too. Just been looking at these and want to
share files between XP Pro machine, W7 HP and iMac and want to setup
timemachine backup.
On 7/6/11, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> Hi,
> As so often here and other places, i stumble upon a thread and sorta think
> it's not interesti
I'm doing the same thing. I'm going to wait, hear people's opinions, hopefully
listen to some demonstration podcasts and
things of that nature. Also, I don't know if it will be possible to buy a
physical disc in a store, but if that does become
an option in a couple of weeks or months, I might wa
On 7/6/11, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
> I can't wait either, since I get it free.
> Kliphton SR
> (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
> (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
> Sent from my IMac
>
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>> It will come!
>> Just w
Hi!
I guess you only can do one of 2 things:
1. Reinstall your Mac
2. Restore your mac from a backup.
Best regards
Thomas
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yeah, lucky you. LOL!
Chris.
On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
> I can't wait either, since I get it free.
> Kliphton SR
> (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
> (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
> Sent from my IMac
>
> On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Red.Fa
We'll just have to see.
The deadline I quoted for today is already come and gone, so looks like it will
indeed be the 14th.
Chris.
On Jul 6, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:
> I heard the 14th
> Kliphton SR
> (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
> (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-w
I can't wait either, since I get it free.
Kliphton SR
(twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72
(Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
Sent from my IMac
On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> Hi all!
> It will come!
> Just wait for it weather today or next week or even [ I
Hi,
As so often here and other places, i stumble upon a thread and sorta think it's
not interesting to me now and go on, however i read in this particular thread
and it placed ideas in my poor spinning head, so this is my question: Someone
here mentioned that they had a Buffalo NAS, don't rememb
Hi all!
It will come!
Just wait for it weather today or next week or even [ I hope not ] next month
it will arrive!
Just wait!
Colin :]
Looking forward for it's arrival!
On 6 Jul 2011, at 15:50, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> Haven't seen anything on sites like Mac Rumours about it.
> On 2011-07-06, at 1
I heard the 14th
Kliphton SR
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(Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com
Sent from my IMac
On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> It would be nice if it came out today. But I suspect next week we will see
> Lion. I can hardly wait for i
Hello!
Can I connect my mmmac to the pc and see the drives and partitions on
the mac from the pc?
If yes what do I need to do this?
I want to format from a windows machine my bootcamp partition as ntfs, thanks.
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Hi listers. How can i reset all my settings on the os x? included
systempreferences?
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Press Command 2 to turn on the dial pad in Skype, and you should hear them just
fine.
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Greetings, one and all,
Up until recently, I used a service on Skype that would allow me to call a
university switchboard, and enter the person's extension via the numbers on my
Mac keyboard. As I typed the extension, I was able to hear the touchtones that
were generated as I entered each numb
Let me dust off my old unix geek cap for a bit. The basic problem here
is that the 'shell' looks in certain places to find things to run and
usually your current directory (written as ./) is not in the list. Those
places are defined in a shell variable called PATH (all upper case). You
can see
CMD right twice should put you in that list. from the home list of tweets. you
have home, then mentions, then direct messages... Hope that helped. I think
after that is sent messages
GF
On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:48 AM, james walton wrote:
> hello,
>
> I am having a problem with viewing direc
Haven't seen anything on sites like Mac Rumors about it.
On 2011-07-06, at 11:44 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> So, you don't think it's today?
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Doug Lawlor"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Is the true, or
hello,
I am having a problem with viewing direct messages in YoruFukurou. could
some one please tell me how to do this?
thanks
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Nope. Like Firefox they have not hooked it into Apple's accessibility
APIs. Unlike the Windows version nobody seems interested in funding the
Mozilla foundation to do the work for the Apple platform. At least Apple
has no need to since they provide a perfectly serviceable mail app.
Maybe that w
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I don't even know what all the new features'll be, nor where I'll find out
when the time is right.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html
It's pretty long.
Geoff.
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I don't even know what all the new features'll be, nor where I'll find out
when the time is right.
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- Original Message -
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: Is the true, or just a rhumor
I so want the thing! I may wait a while for
So, you don't think it's today?
Chris.
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From: "Doug Lawlor"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Is the true, or just a rhumor
It would be nice if it came out today. But I suspect next week we will see
Lion. I can hardly wait for it to come
I so want the thing! I may wait a while for people to install and give me their
feed back before installing although I'll buy it there and then!
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Jul 2011, at 03:10 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> It would be nice if it came out today. But I suspect next week we will see
> Li
I see no reason why it wouldn't be. I hear! ok, now, please, don't anyone
hold me to this, but I? hear! at least? hint hint, that it's supposed to be
released today at noon eastern time.
Again, I dono if any of you can confirm this, but that's what I'm getting
from a few very reliable source
It would be nice if it came out today. But I suspect next week we will see
Lion. I can hardly wait for it to come out. Looking forward to the new
features.
Doug
On 2011-07-06, at 11:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> I have heard from several very reliable sources that today at 9 pecifi
Hey all. I know it's been a while since I last wrote. Been busy with a lot of
stuff. Anyway I was just wondering, since someone on here said that Lion will
be released either this week or next week, will it be easy to install for us
visually impaired users?
Shawn
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I have heard from several very reliable sources that today at 9 pecific time is
supposed to be the release of Lion. I'm so excited, I can't wait! Just
wonderring if anyone else has heard the same thing. Wonder if this is true, or
just a rumor.
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Hi guys:
Checkbook Pro 2.2 has hit the Mac app store. There are several VO improvements
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6 jul 2011 kl. 11.22 skrev Yuma Decaux:
> Try M-audio keyboards.
>
> However, you won't have much luck mapping effects to knobs etc
Ahem, why? Are the mappings inaccessible, if so why should i try those
keyboards?
/Krister
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Hi Jeff -- Assuming you are running the latest version of iTunes, you can
interact with each App in the list and VO will read the status of the checkbox
for that particular App. Here's a rough list of the steps to accomplish this:
Attach your i-device to the Mac, open itunes, interact with the So
Missy, there's probably a key on the numpad that you have to press to make it
work with Numpad Commander. I seem to remember having to do this with mine. In
fact, I no longer use the numpad as I prefer Keyboard Commander and I don't use
Windows on my Mac.
Cheers,
Anne
On Jul 6, 2011, at 11:4
I bought a separate USB-powered num pad for my macbook, thinking mostly of
if/when I get VM fusion up and running. I'm hoping
it might let me do standard jaws commands, but so far, the num pad doesn't seem
to work as expected, and what's frustrating
is that I specifically bought an apple brand nu
Try M-audio keyboards.
However, you won't have much luck mapping effects to knobs etc
On 6/07/2011, at 9:20 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> Hi,
> Please forgive me if this is way off topic, but, i'm thinking of getting a
> midi keyboard to be able to work effectively with Garageband, virtual syn
Hi,
Please forgive me if this is way off topic, but, i'm thinking of getting a midi
keyboard to be able to work effectively with Garageband, virtual synths etc.
Now i don't have much experience with midi keyboards, and i've ever only had a
cheapo one where you had to change midi instructions lik
hi guys something strange is going on here
when i search for something on icanworkthisthing's site i get a error
it said your network is sending automated queries try google help
i went there and it said something about unusual network traffic
i use to use that site all the time
thanks
any suggesti
Mary,
the reason for the loss of the number pad on iMac's and things, is that a lot
of folk now have such machines in their living rooms and other locations, and
as such, they move the keyboard from location to location, I for example might
sit with my blue tooth keyboard on my lap, in these in
Brian,
the term full sized does not relate to the number of keys, but rather the
actual physical size of the principal qwerty keys, so when a manufacturer
claims, full sized keyboard, this is correct on the proviso that the numbers
and alphabet keys are all standard in physical dimension.
Reg
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