Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread joseph hudson
Helga, I just figured out how to do this today. I will be more than glad to show you. But it needs to wait till tomorrow evening as I am leaving first thing is I get out in the morning. Because I have some personal business I need to take care of. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Helga, if no one answers, call me on Skype tomorrow. I'll show you how to do it then. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2016, at 1:50 AM, Helga Schreiber > wrote: > > Hi Simon period that's great period do you happen to know how can I add > voices on my Mac computer if so, how do I do that? I

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi Simon period that's great period do you happen to know how can I add voices on my Mac computer if so, how do I do that? I'm just wondering since I only have my Alex boys I am I am I would like to have more than one voice I look forward to hearing from you soon period thanks and God bless!!!

RE: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
I can give it to you tomorrow. I would tell you to go to the Mac App Store and do a search for it, but the version on there isn't accessible. So if you can wait until tomorrow, I'll send it through Skype. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn K

RE: What is Trillian!

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
Ok well you shouldn’t have any problems there then. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries

RE: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Helga, No I have a mac mini late 2012 with 16GB ram and 1TB HDD quad core I7 processor. Plus a 11 inch mac book air late 2013 with 512 GB Flash SSD and 8GB ram and I7 processor customised to get the most for the money. I went for best power and little size for portability It will be time t

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Bless you too, and glad you love your Mac! 😊💜 Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] > On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:27 PM, Helga Schreiber > wrote: > > Hi Dora! This is Helga! Welcome to the list Hope you like it here! And > just to let you know, I have a MacBook Air 11 inches! It is 2015 MacBook

RE: What is Trillian!

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
We have our own Jabba server setup at work for chat across the campus. It’s only really for me as an accessible chat client to work with it. So far the best option is iChat but that gets annoying after 5 minutes. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On B

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Fair enough. :) Where can I get Trillion? Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] > On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:22 PM, BBS wrote: > > Unfortunately, I can't tell you that. Apple has a strict rule when it comes > to disclosing new features or bug fixes. I'm afraid you'll have to wait until > the next rel

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi Dora! This is Helga! Welcome to the list Hope you like it here! And just to let you know, I have a MacBook Air 11 inches! It is 2015 MacBook Air! And I have 4 gigs on it!! I'm not so tech savvy, but I love apple devices!! I'm still learning how to use my Mac computer!!! It looks like so

RE: What is Trillian!

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
Depends on what the Jabber server you’re trying to connect to is. Facebook stopped supporting Jabber last year so the only way to sign in to Facebook with Trillian is with the Facebook option itself. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shaw

RE: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
Unfortunately, I can't tell you that. Apple has a strict rule when it comes to disclosing new features or bug fixes. I'm afraid you'll have to wait until the next release and find out for yourself. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

RE: What is Trillian!

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Shawn, Thanks for that, it makes lots more sense now. And might have just answered a question I have at work. Do you know if trillian works with Jabba chat systems? I’m trying to find a Jabba chat client that will work on both Mac os and windows 10 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
That's good! There's mo way around the lagginess is there? Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] > On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:17 PM, BBS wrote: > > I think it was made in 2005 or somewhere around there. As for your question > about downgrading, I've thought of doing that but I've stopped myself. I'm a

RE: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
I believe it has been going for a few years now. I know I joined this or a similar list back in 2010 when I got my first mac book pro. But I'd guess someone on here has been with it for life. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.c

RE: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
I think it was made in 2005 or somewhere around there. As for your question about downgrading, I've thought of doing that but I've stopped myself. I'm a beta tester for both El Capitan and iOS 9 so I want to make the experience better for people, not worse and if I can do that, I'm happy. Shaw

Re: What is Trillian!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Sort of like Adium? Yeh I still have that thing but rarely use it. Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] > On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:13 PM, BBS wrote: > > Hi Simon. Trillian is an IM client that lets you connect to multiple chat > services like AIM and Facebook Chat. > > > Shawn > Sent from my Wh

RE: What is Trillian!

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
Hi Simon. Trillian is an IM client that lets you connect to multiple chat services like AIM and Facebook Chat. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Hey there. Nice to meet you Simon, and Thank you all for the welcome messages! When did this group start? Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] > On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:05 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Hi Dora, > > Welcome to the list. > > I'm Simon and I'm from the deep south of the world. > > N

What is Trillian!

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi, Could you tell me what Trillian actually is? I’ve not heard of it before? Regards, Simon F From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BBS Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 6:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Good News F

RE: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Dora, Welcome to the list. I'm Simon and I'm from the deep south of the world. New Zealdnd that is. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dora Speck Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 5:04 PM To: macvisionaries@

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Hey! Just added you! Long time no talketh :) Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] > On Feb 15, 2016, at 10:53 PM, BBS wrote: > > Hi Dora. It's Shawn. Long time no talk. I don't see you on Skype anymore. Did > you get a new account or something? You can add me again if you like. I > experienced t

RE: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Try not launching mail until you have changed the voice in voiceover. So start your machine and then change the voice then try launching mail Should work so long as you don’t' use an apple voice -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegrou

RE: How do I turn a mac into a full fledged ftp server?

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Just wondering if you’ve thought of using fusion pro and running a mac os vm with the ftp server setup in it? I believe the newer vm Fusion pro will let you setup apple OSX vm That may have changed but but I thought that was one of the major differences between fusion and fusion pro. From: ma

RE: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
Hi Dora. It's Shawn. Long time no talk. I don't see you on Skype anymore. Did you get a new account or something? You can add me again if you like. I experienced the issue with that malicious string that guy posted to the list too except I was using an Acapela voice. I've reported it to Assistiv

RE: Re:

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
I don't know about terminal but if you try a force shutdown, Command option and escape and then select the app you want and vo key right arrow to the force shutdown and hit enter will close the application. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@go

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
And the mac book pro retina 13inch models, infact I think it’s all mac book models that don’t have optical drives. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Basioli George Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 4:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi, Kate, Try restarting voiceover using the command and f5 keys and also check your volume is turned up to hear it. om: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn F Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 3:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sub

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Simon Fogarty
Excellent, I didn't know that apple would do that for people. Great work. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Basioli George Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 2:44 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Hi there! That's nice Where'd you get yours from? > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Singing Sparrow wrote: > > Dora, I am glad to meet you I have a macbook as well; Mine is a mid 2010 > white polly carbon running yosemity and I have so far 2 gigs of ram and a 250 > gig harddrive > > On 2/15/2016

RE: Good News From Trillian Developers

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
You must be doing something wrong because Trillian 3.2 has been installed here. If you want, you can add me to Skype and I’ll send you the file if that’s easier for you. Details are below. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Singing Sparrow
Dora, I am glad to meet you I have a macbook as well; Mine is a mid 2010 white polly carbon running yosemity and I have so far 2 gigs of ram and a 250 gig harddrive On 2/15/2016 10:03 PM, Dora Speck wrote: Hello. I'm Dora. I'm from British Columbia, Canada. I'm 24, totally blind and single. I

Voiceover Voices

2016-02-15 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi all!How are you all? I just wanted to ask yu, can anyone tell me here why are the steps in adding new voices to the Mac besides just having Alex on the Mac? I'm just wondering since I would like to add some Voiceover Voices, like the Samanta Voice that I have on my iPhone 6S. And I a

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Debbie April Yuille
Hi Caitlin To restart your mac without voice over talking. Press the Control plus Command Plus the eject key. Debbie From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn F Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2016 1:30 AM To: macvisionaries@google

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Oh trust me, as I looked at all the posts. I saw all of those. O course that didn't stop me from joining! I just simpley switched to Samantha compacked so as to not crash! Bill was the 1 who told me about this, so yeah! I googled you all, and here I am! I'm impressed at how long Macs can last f

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, Dora, my name is Ray. I use a mid November 2009 15 inch Mac book pro with only 4GB ram and a 500GB drive on it. The voice I'm using is the Nuance Tom voice (the high bit rate version); This is owing to the events of yesterday when that toxic character string showed up to crash Alex. It

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
How many of you have had to downgrade from the recent opperating system? I haven't, although it tends to be slightly laggy. It took me a bit to get things going propperly this morning. I seriously hope they fix that in whatever update comes next! > On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Christopher-Mark

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Thanks so much! Glad to be here. I've always wanted to be a part of something, and it looks like now's my chance. :) > On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > Hi Dora. > > Glad to have you on the list. Welcome. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "D

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Hi Dora. Glad to have you on the list. Welcome. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Dora Speck" To: Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 11:03 PM Subject: Hi my name is Dora! Hello. I'm Dora. I'm from British Columbia, Canada. I'm 24, totally blind and single. I hope to make new conne

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Yup, sounds like the same system I have. I love that thing! Chris. - Original Message - From: Dora Speck To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Hi my name is Dora! I actually have a Mac. It is a MacBook Pro 2012, 13 inch

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread joseph hudson
After 13 inch MacBook Pro that came out in 2013. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Thanks. Just switched. What Macs do you all have here? I've already stated which 1 I have. I've had it for 3 years now. I did get my first 1 in 2012, but for some unknown reason, the command key stopped working so I switched it out for this 1. > On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:36 PM, joseph hudson wrote:

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread joseph hudson
Yes, the spam is gone. Expect Alex until further notice. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https:/

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Hi, Yes, Bill, it did work! Just as I had asked you about it on Skype, I checked my email, and there it was! But glad to be here. Has the spamminess stopped now? Can I be brave and switch back to Alex now? Dora Speck > On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:20 PM, Bill Dengler wrote: > > Hi Dora! > Looks like y

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Bill Dengler
Hi Dora! Looks like your membership request worked after all. Happy exploring! Bill > On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:09 PM, joseph hudson wrote: > > Oh okay cool. Well I hope you enjoy your stay. > Joseph Hudson > Email > jhud7...@gmail.com > I device support > Telephone > 25

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread joseph hudson
Oh okay cool. Well I hope you enjoy your stay. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.c

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
I actually have a Mac. It is a MacBook Pro 2012, 13 inch with four giggs of RAM. Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] > On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:05 PM, joseph hudson wrote: > > Hi, welcome to the group. Are you getting a MacBook Pro? Or iMac? > Joseph Hudson > Email > jhud7...@gmail.com > I device su

Re: Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread joseph hudson
Hi, welcome to the group. Are you getting a MacBook Pro? Or iMac? Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitte

Hi my name is Dora!

2016-02-15 Thread Dora Speck
Hello. I'm Dora. I'm from British Columbia, Canada. I'm 24, totally blind and single. I hope to make new connections as time goes on. Thanks. :) Dora Speck [Sent from my iPhone] -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions o

Re: FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil

2016-02-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
DRM, Digital rights Management. Chris. - Original Message - From: Jessica Moss To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:25 PM Subject: Re: FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil What is drm, and what do you find wrong with it? I've heard tha

now have 3 different voices

2016-02-15 Thread Marie Lyons
Does anyone know how I can confine it to 1 voice? I went to change my default voice and Alex remained with the addition of Veronica and another male voice. It’s driving me nuts!!! Marie Lyons -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have a

Re: O/T what is drm was Re: FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil

2016-02-15 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Of course in the states we also have DCMA which says that the mere act of breaking encryption (the basis of many DRM schemes) is illegal. So if you buy a DVD and wish to make a copy so you can extract the audio tracks, copy it to your favorite iDevice or just have a backup in case the original

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-15 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Wait. I think you may be confused about something. We're not dealing with a virus here: rather, we're dealing with a special string of characters which, if you type them without any spaces, causes a buffer overrun thus crashing Alex. A more infamous version of this sort of thing used to happ

O/T what is drm was Re: FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil

2016-02-15 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Jessica, DRM stands for digital rights management. In other words, digital licencing strategies that restrict how media is distributed online and policies that govern how you access your data. DRM's usually take the form of security encryption that prevents you from making copies of digita

Re: FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil

2016-02-15 Thread Ryan Mann
DRM stands for digital rights management. If music or audio files are protected by DRM can only be played on computers that are authorized to play them. This means that you can't just copy these files to a flash drive and copy them to another computer. Does this make sense? PS, did you go to t

Re: Good News From Trillian Developers

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
I downloded that one as well, and it said the same thing. On Feb 11, 2016, at 11:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: > Ok try this link. > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ok9cd3uml496rqz/AADqdQPvc14LposjElfwVRePa?dl=0 > > Shawn > Sent From My White MacBook > Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk > Twitter Hand

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
Amen to that, These lists get hacked all the time, so what can you do? On Feb 14, 2016, at 11:04 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Mark, > > Don't beat yourself up over this. > > You're doing the best you can, and that is all anyone ever could ask of you. > > On behalf of the whole list,

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
That was actually the same thing I thought of. I find it extremely childish that people would do something like that. I remember someone posting something on zonebbs.com, that apparently was immediately taken down, but talked about a lot, that someone pretended was a game, but was a long stri

RE: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
Hi Jessica. You'll have to use Tessa or whatever Nuance voice you prefer until you finish deleting all that crap that that person sent. There's no other work around unfortunately. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: b

Re: FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
What is drm, and what do you find wrong with it? I've heard that mentioned, and think I found something with that extention when I used to transfer music files onto my windows mobile phone, when I used to use one, but never opened them. On Feb 15, 2016, at 3:00 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > May

Re: I just sent an email to Apple accessibility regarding spam messages

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
I didn't even open a message and that somehow happened to me. I have no idea what message popped up, but Alex started reading me the subject line, then studdered then crashed altogether and no longer works when I try to launch mail, so unfortunately have no idea what to tell them. Can someone

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Alex Hall
Simply switch voices to Samantha, Ava, Tom, or any of the other Nuance voices. Alternatively, use a Windows computer, or iOS device with any voice other than Alex, to delete the messages that contain the string which crashes Mac speech synthesizers. > On Feb 15, 2016, at 20:19, Marie Lyons wrot

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
Ok, as an addon, how to semi-fix it, sense Alex still crashes whenever I launch mail, so things aren't totally fixed. On Feb 14, 2016, at 6:26 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > I doubt he has a large number of IP addresses at his disposal. To begin with, > they would have to answer to a validated NX so fa

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
I'm surprised with that being the case, that he could've possibly messed up my system, considering the fact that I didn't click any strange links, and didn't start getting his messages until today, sense it started messing up last night and I couldn't figure out how to fix it until I did a googl

Re: Help with message are extremely offensive

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
Thanx so much for posting this; I'm so glad I'm not the only one. I had this weird issue last night where I was checking my e-mail, and all of a sudden it was reading an unopened message, then voiceover, using Alex, just suddenly studdered, then crashed, and now does the same thing whenever mai

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Marie Lyons
My v/o keeps shutting down. What can I do to fix it? Marie Lyons. I had called disability support and they couldn’t figure it out. Help greatly appreciated Marie Lyons > On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I became aware of the offensive emails and the d

Re: How do I turn a mac into a full fledged ftp server?

2016-02-15 Thread erik burggraaf
I could, but then users would have full accounts to the mac that was serving, all be it restricted ones. I just don't think I want to go that rout. I'm not even sure I'll be able to do what I want to do with a mac at all, but it would make my life much simpler if I could. Best, Erik Burggraa

Re: Malicious Email how to get around question

2016-02-15 Thread Alex Hall
'Yes, you have to let it download. It should become active automatically, but if not, go back to where you were and select the voice again. To check the status, (again) go back to where you were and open the list of voices. Any that are still downloading will indicate that in the list and cannot

Re: Malicious Email how to get around question

2016-02-15 Thread Dolores Myers
Hi, I am a very new Mac user. I went to the VO utility and then to customize voices. I found Samantha and selected it. I closed the VO utility and nothing happened. Do I have to download this voice first? My Mac only has Alex, Fred and Bruce. I just want to be prepared if something like

RE: Malicious Email how to get around question

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
Hi Bryan. The Nuance voices are Samantha, Tom, Ava, those voices. The string only effects Alex and other voices but if you use Samantha, you’ll be fine. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper F

Re: Malicious Email how to get around question

2016-02-15 Thread Brian Fischler
Thanks Sean. How do I know which the nuance voices are, I thought they just had the names for the voices. I assume if you are running Alex and the subject of the malicious email is read it then knocks out VO? Was this virus written to target blind VO users? So bizarre and really evil. Thanks, >

Re: Att Bill: Legit message

2016-02-15 Thread Bill Dengler
http://enwp.org/acpi Bill > On Feb 14, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > ACPI? What's that? Admittedly, I've never heard that term before. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Bill Dengler" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 5:02 PM > Subject: Re:

RE: Malicious Email how to get around question

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
Bryan, you can download the Nuance voices to your Mac by going into the VO Utility and select ustomize. On the iPhone, as long as you’re not using Alex, you should be fine. Shawn Sent from my White MacBook Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Skype Username:

Re: Att Bill: Legit message

2016-02-15 Thread Jessica Moss
Nothing, it's someone trying to get a rise out of us. On Feb 14, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > ACPI? What's that? Admittedly, I've never heard that term before. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Bill Dengler" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 5:

Re: FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil

2016-02-15 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Thanks for the list Erik. Actually, I’m familiar with some of these, particularly Downpour, but because Audible often turned up stuff not available there, I’d be come a bit complacent in checking. Will be far more vigilant going forward, of course. I still buy CDs, if it means avoiding DRM, a

RE: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread BBS
Hi Anne. Are these French voices you have made by Acapela? I’m about to write a report to Assistiveware about this because the voice I was using when the hacker attacked the list was an Acapela voice and my Mac was unusable when it encountered the message. Stacy, what happened was somebody type

Txt expansion

2016-02-15 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello all , I wondered if any use txt expansion on their IOS or Mac? While I can input my abbreviations myself, it seems it is a very Painful exercise using Apple's shortcut options in keyboard shortcuts. Is there an app that has predefined routines? A common method is to not type vowel letter

Re: FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil

2016-02-15 Thread Sharon Hooley
I value how-to material and generally prefer to keep them on my Victor Reader. All other kinds of books I read I am less likely to care about retrieving again. That might be one way to protect yourself from losing as much valuable content, unless of course storing them this way would be ille

Re: FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil

2016-02-15 Thread erik burggraaf
May I suggest: http://www.downpour.com http://www.tantor.com http://www.booksinmotion.com http://www.emusic.com/book-genres/audiobook/ Also, while I'm not a fan of physical media too much any more, many books that can't be purchased drm-free can be purchased as mp3 cd's. http://www.audiobookstand

FYI: DRM is Evil. Very, Very, Very Evil

2016-02-15 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Amazon have closed my brother's account because he was returning too many articles to them. He'd apparently crossed some sacred threshold or other--presumably one calculated to be the least profitable to Amazon--with the result that he can no longer log in to his account. And you'll never guess

I just sent an email to Apple accessibility regarding spam messages

2016-02-15 Thread nicholasacosta775
Sent from my iPhone hello guys, I would ask everyone on this list to send an email to Apple accessibility. I sent them this email because I wanted to tell them about what was going on with the Alex TTS voice. This had to do with the spam that was being sent to the list yesterday. I explained t

Re: Malicious Email how to get around question

2016-02-15 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey guys, Wow what kind of an whole creates a bug to knock out VoiceOVer that is a whole new kind of jerk. I only have the stock voices my mac came with. I read it might be easier to get around on the iPhone? Any words of wisdom on how to get through this the easiest way with only having stock

Re: Malicious Email how to get around question

2016-02-15 Thread Kevin Chao
Workaround: Use a non-Apple TTS (e.g. Nuamce). Unfortunately, VoiceOver will crash (Alex, Fred, etc.) even if message isn't open, as offending text is in subject and preview. On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:17 AM Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey all, > > Was not around for a few days so just started going

Re: Malicious Email how to get around question

2016-02-15 Thread Alex Hall
The string that causes the problem is in the subject of many of them, so you'll be affected even if you don't open them. The best thing to do is just use a synthesizer that is NOT the Alex voice or any of the older Mac voices (Fred, Ralph, etc). This bug doesn't affect any Nuance voice at all, o

Malicious Email how to get around question

2016-02-15 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all, Was not around for a few days so just started going through my list mail and read about these awful malicious emails taking out VO. I am assuming they are further down in the mailbox where all my list mail is. If you do not open the email does it affect you? I typically let VO read lit

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2016-02-15 Thread Stan ZA
Hi, What I found, also works, is; When re-opening the computer, and "mail", go to "message table" and interact, right arrow to "from column", up and down arrow, till you find the offending sender, and hit delete. Do not, up or down arrow, in "subject" column. Stan ZA amista...@gmail.com On 15

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Eric Oyen
it isn't so much that they have a lot of time on their hands. It's that they have no ethics and also no emotional control. Believe it or not, there are those of us (who are still hackers) that have ethics. we are few and very far between. I am not a coder, so I don't deal with that end of things

Re: using terminal

2016-02-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
VO+Space opens terminal? Since when? You sure you don't mean command+space? Also, realize something important here. If you have something like Onyx or what not, like I do, and've disabled Spotlight, then... well? you're kind a screwed. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Caitlyn F

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2016-02-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
yup. sudo killall mail hit enter. type your administrator password. Hit enter. Boom! Chris. - Original Message - From: "Caitlyn Furness" To: Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Hi, Is there a way to shut down mail via terminal? the computer I am currently try

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2016-02-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What I wanna know is how the heck you manage to have Apple fix a bug so quickly! Every time I've reported a bug to Apple Accessibility, it hardly ever gets squashed, and yes, I'm very professional about it when I do so. I provide logs, crash reports, audio mp3's demoing the situation, etc. I

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2016-02-15 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
OK, so it looks like com.apple.speech.speechsynthesisd deadlocks when this happens. Anyone else want to try deliberately reproducing this, and then, using Terminal, try “sudo killall -9 com.apple.speech.speechsynthesisd”? You should find that it comes back again shortly after you execute that

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2016-02-15 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi all! How are you al!! I'm glad that I did not use my Mac to find those scam emails! I actually use my iPhone 6S and I do have Alex on it and it was getting crash all the time! And I did not know what was happening! And I needed to check important email messages! I actually delete my gmail

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2016-02-15 Thread John Panarese
What I’ve found is to change to a different non-Apple voice temporarily in VoiceOver and then delete the offending messages. This is what I’ve done. I’v switched to the Australian voice, Karen, on the Mac, as David indicated this worked on his iPhone. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Ma

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2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi, Just wanted to let people know that they can also use terminal to quit a particular app. You do this by typing vo space, then typing terminal. this will open terminal You’ll probably have to enter your pass word, then type: osascript -e quit app app name, then hit enter this is how I coul

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2016-02-15 Thread Stacey Robinson
Can someone explain to me what this person did and how to keep it from happening again? I’ve had to restart several times but vo with Alex is working for me now. I’ve also had to delete massive amounts of mail. Blessings, Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk. mailto:s

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2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi, Is there a way to shut down mail via terminal? the computer I am currently trying to fix from this stupid malicious code thanks Cait > On Feb 14, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > If you get caught by the very long strings that kills Alex and aren’t using > another synth o

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Basioli George
also on the new mac book pros 2015 and newer with no optical drive there is no power button and the old eject button is now the power button > On Feb 15, 2016, at 7:11 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > That makes sense. On the MacBook Air, the Power button and the Eject button > are the same. > Chee

Re: To The List About The Recent Spam

2016-02-15 Thread Donna Goodin
That makes sense. On the MacBook Air, the Power button and the Eject button are the same. Cheers, Donna > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Caitlyn Furness > wrote: > > Just fyi, this trick also works on the desk top mac, but it’s then control, > option, command eject instead of power.. > hth, > C

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2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
thanks Donna. Cait > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Caitlyn, > > After restarting, if you don't get speech, press Command F5 to start > Voiceover. That should work. I did have to do that once. > Cheers, > Donna >> On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Caitlyn F >

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2016-02-15 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Just tried this with the other machine also, and only get bonks. Weird, and annoying!! Some people really have a lot of time on their hands these days! Caitlyn > On Feb 15, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote: > > Alternatively, you can hold down vo command and use your right and left > arr

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