Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-30 Thread Kliphton Miller
I made this statement when the touch bar was first mentioned and it was stated the escape key was going away, and I was accused of saying thing s just because. Now you want to make my point but take credit for it. Funny, real funny. Everything being said in this thread is what I said from jum

Voiceover doesn't read header columns in Numbers in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi, Just want to confirm with the list the behaviour of Voiceover in Numbers. When I tab through columns in Numbers spreadsheet, Voiceover doesn't read header columns in OS Sierra. In El Capitan it would read those flawlessly. Anyone else has noticed this? Andrew -- The following inform

Hot keys not working on iPad Air 2 running iOs 10.1

2016-10-30 Thread Douglas Lawlor
Hello all, I just restored this iPad Air 2 back to factory settings with iOs 10.1. I have no quick navigation keys while navigating through HTML content. I am referring to the keys for navigating heading and form elements when Quicknav is turned on. A strange thing is I don't hear any descripti

Re: Voiceover doesn't read header columns in Numbers in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Phil Halton
I've noticed that if I just use the arrow keys alone to move across columns often it will not read the header. However if I use vo left and right arrow it does read the headers. I'm not sure this is specific to Sierra, I think this was also the case in my install of Yosemite before upgrading to

Re: slight apple rant

2016-10-30 Thread Jonathan Cohn
What would be interesting to know is if anyone running El Capitain on an older machine got the separate message on-screen asking you to update. The AppStore since it is a web page is probably just checking the some basics. When you tried to update to Siera did it fail after downloading 4 GB of

Touch bar and iMacs thoughts and considerations

2016-10-30 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Considering that for iMacs one can purchase a separate trackpad that does everything that a laptop touch pad can do, can we extrapolate to the iMacs and the touch bar considerations. Especially with the digital ink talk that Scott provided us with. How about a 4x5 ctouch sensitive input device

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-30 Thread E.T.
OMG That is really sad. (smiles) From E.T.'s Keyboard... Without H2O there is no life! ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/30/2016 2:10 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote: I made this statement when the touch bar was first mentioned and it was stated the escape key was going away, and I was accused of

Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all, Ok the old iCloud website was bad enough but this is ridiculous what they have done with it. Would love to hear if anyone can access mail on the iCloud site so they can create a mail rule. I used to be able to do this and the steps were a little weird but now there is no way to get to

Re: voiceover keeps crashing

2016-10-30 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Was this with a specific application? Also, I know there was an issue at one point with a specific string causing VoiceOver to crash. I wonder if you have encounter that. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli > wrote: > > Hi guys, > I have a MBP2010 ru

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Tell me, why everyone thinks that they are in competition with each other, as some people think that their answer is right and to hell with anyone else's answer? That is what looks like to me when I read yet another lot of nasty messages. ET, I'm not blaming you but there a few others on this

Re: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sir, that was uncalled for. Enough said. I offered an apology indirectly. No one said you had to accept it, but if you have an issue with me, take it up with me off list. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - O

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Oh I see what you mean. It's awful. How do you get to the mail now as I couldn't even find that there. I wish they would not keep changing things for the hell of doing that as that site was best left how it was. Kawal. > On 30 Oct 2016, at 14:50, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Hey all, > > Ok t

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I've never been impressed with iCloud.com Alas, I can reproduce everything you're saying. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" To: Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016

Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-30 Thread Kevin Chao
Devices I've connected via USB-C fly across the room or to the ground when I pull them or kick the cable...Too bad MagSafe2 is gone On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 8:58 PM Simon Fogarty wrote: > Yeah the USB C power connection isn’t going to work for me well. > > > > I at least know if I connect my foot

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Brian Fischler
Yes it is awful. How can a company that talks such a big game about accessibility have such a poorly designed main site. There is now no way whats so ever to use universal mail rules. Or edit any of your existing mail rules. Just awful. > On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Ray Foret jr
Hi time we wrote Tim cook himself and let him know. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! > On Oct 30, 2

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Dan
hello, So pray tell, how do you do that. What's Mr. Cook's real email address. Dan > On Oct 30, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > Hi time we wrote Tim cook himself and let him know. > Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in > > Sincerel

Running the SoundFlower shell script

2016-10-30 Thread Joshua Tubbs
Hi all, I have SoundFlower installed and basicaly I want to remove it. There is an “Uninstal SOundFlower.scpt” shell script, but when I CD to the directory in terminal and type “./Uninstall SoundFlower.scpt”, it says that the file isn’t found. I’m guessing that’s because it’s taking the first ke

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I wrote to Tim Cook once and got a reply from Accessibility as he didn't answer! I found his e-mail using Google. Kawal. > On 30 Oct 2016, at 17:59, Ray Foret jr wrote: > > Hi time we wrote Tim cook himself and let him know. > Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for t

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread christopher hallsworth
Oh wow, so it's not me then. Yes, how awful, because what if I want to create or edit rules? Now I can't. Please let's all email Apple Accessibility and/or Mr Cook. > On 30 Oct 2016, at 17:58, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Yes it is awful. How can a company that talks such a big game about > acc

Hate to say this, but iCloud.com is awful!

2016-10-30 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hope you like the below letter. Hello Apple Accessibility. Well the subject says it all. iCloud.com is awful! Here is what I mean. 1. Using VoiceOver, go to www.icloud.com and sign in. 2. Press vo-space on settings and choose an app like Mail. 3. Do you only see the main screen again wi

Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-30 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi Don't worry, according to my local Apple Store the previous generation 13 inch Macbook Pro is still offered, as well as the final 13 inch Macbook Air. What's new however is a version of the new 13 inch Macbook Pro without touch bar and touch ID. This they call the "entry level" 13 inch Macbo

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Scott Granados
Oddly enough it seems a little better under windows which is humorous in a sad way. I thought if you created rules under apple mail they propagated via the cloud on the back end. > On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:43 PM, christopher hallsworth > wrote: > > Oh wow, so it's not me then. Yes, how awful, b

Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-30 Thread Scott Granados
I agree, I like mag safe. Maybe they will make a small magsafe to USBC adapter so you can still have the best of both worlds and use your old adapters and power chargers of which I have many.:) Amazon had a deal on the 85 watt model and I bought a bunch of them to leave around, at work, at hom

Re: Touch bar and iMacs thoughts and considerations

2016-10-30 Thread Scott Granados
Actually, I just read an article on Redmondpie that indicated the idea that the touch bar would be incorporated with the magic keyboard. Interesting thought. Seems the touch bar has it’s own OS based on Watch OS and a separate processor called a T1 chip. So the light bar is it’s on separate co

Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I'm very sad that Mac Safe is going. What attracked me to Apple products was that the adaptors were unique and that it was exciting to get different adaptors. Sabahattin and I are very unhappy with what Apple are doing. Apple would have kept everything if they had not wasted their money on tr

MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi, Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to Sierra is that neither my old MacBook Air nor my 2014 MacBook pro go to sleep when I close the lid. Once the lid is closed, Voiceover keeps repeating rotor menu items. The only way I can put it to sleep if I want to close the lid is to

Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-30 Thread Scott Granados
Actually Kawal, the world has never been so much at piece, you really need to get away from that government sponsored media you British live under, even if your television shows are a lot better than ours. As a percentage of the population, at no point in our history have fewer people been in a

Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Brandon A. Olivares
My wife is having the same issue. We’ve found it helps if she unplugs the laptop before shutting it. She can then plug it back in if she wants to, and it still stays sleeping. > On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote: > > Hi, > > Yet another difficulty I experience after upgrade to

Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Scott Granados
There’s also a checkbox under energy savings and power that controls sleep behavior as in what can or can’t wake up the device. I haven’t noticed this problem but I usually click on the sleep option under the apple before closing the lid. > On Oct 30, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Brandon A. Olivares >

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Brian Fischler
No unfortunately I believe you still need to create mail rules on the dumb iCloud site if you want the rule to sync across all devices. I have emailed Apple Accessibility but doubt I will hear back. This is a long running issue with the iCloud site that has gone even further backwards. So much f

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Ray Foret jr
tc...@apple.com Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! > On Oct 30, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Dan wrote: > > he

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Kliphton Miller
I have no issues with creating rules and changing settings. What I do is, go in too the mail app, system prefs, and go to edit alias's it drops me directly into the selection area Kliph Sent from my mobile office On Oct 30, 2016, at 3:32 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: No unfortunately I believe

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Huh? How do we get his direct contact info to contact him? --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Ray Foret jr To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I wouldn't a been so sarcastic, LOL! Smile, but, yeah, I agree. I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm definitely open to hear what you have to say, Ray. Heheheheh. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Messag

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Oh wow, so it actually really is? out there? Hmm, let's see if we can find his personal iPhone number. Hey, we have his e-mail, we could at least take that and try to iMessage/text or Facetime 'em. You smirk at what I say here, and say don't be a smarty butt, but really, no! I'm dead serious

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Can you not create the filters within the Mail app itself, then, being it's IMap, have them carry down to the server on the iCloud side, thereby making it carry across from device to device? --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704

Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Oh Scott, you always take me too seriously. Syria is at war with the IS by the way. I know the world is not at war that was my choice of words. > On 30 Oct 2016, at 20:18, Scott Granados wrote: > > Actually Kawal, the world has never been so much at piece, you really need to > get away from

Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Awesome. I figured it would be something easy like that, but just wanted to see. Has anyone tried to Facetime or iMessage him? It's unlikely to work, but it's worth a try. --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. -

Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-30 Thread Scott Granados
Well I know but if you watch the media you’d think so. I will admit, I thought that the world was coming undone until I read research and it and it totally changed my outlook. Gives one hope for the future to realize we’re making progress instead of the images we’re fed. Hope is good. > On O

Re: Running the SoundFlower shell script

2016-10-30 Thread Alex Hall
An AppleScript will run in Script Editor. Open that app, open your script with cmd-o, and run it with cmd-r. That should do the job. > On Oct 30, 2016, at 14:12, Joshua Tubbs wrote: > > Hi all, > I have SoundFlower installed and basicaly I want to remove it. There is an > “Uninstal SOundFlower.

Re: Article: Apple on target for October MacBook Release

2016-10-30 Thread E.T.
Is this research unbiased? Might be worth a read. I watch documentaries on my Apple TV which is so much more peaceful. That ATV was the best bit of hardware I bought. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Without H2O there is no life! ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/30/2016 4:55 PM, Scott Granados

Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Kevin Chao
I've observed this (Apple Watch will unlock Mac, BLuetooth headset will connect, and Alex will continue talking)and haven't figure out a solution other than unplugging charger (end up with dead Mac) On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 1:21 PM Scott Granados wrote: > There’s also a checkbox under energy savi

Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I haven't experienced this exact issue, but have noticed that my MBP takes an extra 30 seconds or so to go to sleep. I close the lid, then can tell that stuff is still happening, but it does wind down after about 30 seconds. For those of you with Apple Watches and other devices that conti

Re: MacBook doesn't go to sleep when lid closed in OS Sierra

2016-10-30 Thread Kevin Chao
I've unchecked/disabled PowerNap and Wake_Wi-Fi. Apple support has never heard of this issue when I called last week On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:23 PM Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > I haven't experienced this exact issue, but have noticed that my MBP takes > an extra 30 seconds or so to go to sleep.

RE: Hot keys not working on iPad Air 2 running iOs 10.1

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Is that because you need to turn these things on within the accessibility voiceover roter functions? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Lawlor Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 2:34 AM To: macvisionaries@goog

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-30 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
Trying to use a surface book the way a laptop should be used, on your lap, instead of on a desk, is impossible. I have actually seen one fall and break to pieces. The problem with it is, all the storage, battery etc. is located in the screen. It can also not be said that it is the most well-bui

RE: The escape key now at present.

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hell I thought Apple came up with these ideas, guess who ever told apple should be getting a great pay out. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 5:01 AM To: Macvisionar

RE: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Have we actually told them it's a crap site for accessibiliey? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler Sent: Monday, 31 October 2016 6:58 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Is Apple's iC

RE: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Currently the mac book air 11 and 13 inch devices are available. The mac book air is to be replaced by a 13 inch mac book pro with full keyboard including function keys across the top fo the board. Also increase in ram and HDD storage -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegro

RE: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
I wonder how Tim Cook would react if we all emailed him individually about our concerns? Such as where are my apple ear pods? It’s the 31st of October you can’t get any later than this in October and they said late October! And why is itunes becoming crappier than it use to. From: macvisiona

RE: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Surely he uses the products that he's pushing on the world, mind you I'm guessing there is a P A to catch the crazies like us trying to get in touch with him. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark

Re: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-30 Thread David Chittenden
According to the Apple presentation, the MacBook Air 13" will continue to be sold. The MacBook Air 11" is being discontinued, and effectively replaced by the MacBook 12". They also said the MacBook Pro 13" is a slightly smaller than the MacBook Air 13". Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRC

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-30 Thread David Chittenden
When using the Surface Pro on one's lap, use the onscreen keyboard, not the QWERTY keyboard attachment. Only use the QWERTY when on a stable platform, such as a desk or table. The same, in fact, is true for the iPad and Apple's keyboard for the iPad. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

RE: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Um Brandt, The surface book actually has battery and memory within the keyboard as well as in the screan Both come apart so the screan can be used as a tablet or together the keyboard which is as strong as the screan except for the keys Yes if you drop it from your knee or anywhere else the tw

RE: This is Apple’s new OLED MacBook Pro

2016-10-30 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi David, The mac book air is actually going as we know it, they are going to have 4 devices, 12 inch mac book, 13 inch mac book pro with normall keyboard And then the 2 new pros with touch bar. The air models is to be replaced by the entry level 13inch pro. It was the comparing the size of t

Re: From Apple accessibility directly, our answers, Fwd: Voice over and the new MacBook pro; Follow-up: 651323126

2016-10-30 Thread Brandt Steenkamp
My issue is not with the surface pro, but with the surface book. Microsoft sells the surface book as a laptop. A laptop is supposed to be used on your lap if necessary. The surface book cannot be used on your lap at all. It will fall. As I said before, I have seen it happen. Warm regards, Bran