Re: Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Best I can think of is listening to them with Shizam, however it’s spelled. Otherwise, I haven’t a clue. > On Sep 17, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Kevin > And good to see you on another list. Perhaps you might have a suggestion to a > problem I have with a folder full of

Re: Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread Dave Carlson
Kevin And good to see you on another list. Perhaps you might have a suggestion to a problem I have with a folder full of untitled songs from a CD. A friend gave me these CDs but there was no metadata for them, so the files are all Track01, Track02, etc. Do you, or someone on this list, know of

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
You bet. The more feedback the better. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 6:51 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Yes sir, got it and added to my contacts,  Thanks On 18/09/2019, at 1:47 PM,

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Google search works too. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: If one is new to the program how would one know how to check the books store? smile. On

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Yes sir, got it and added to my contacts, Thanks > On 18/09/2019, at 1:47 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > And add it to your contacts. Or else. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
If one is new to the program how would one know how to check the books store? smile. On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: Not a tutorial but there is a user guide. Check the Books store. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Uh huh. :) From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 6:44 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Okay, this will sound like a silly question. But what’s the email address one can send feedback too? On

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
And add it to your contacts. Or else. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 6:44 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Okay, this will sound like a silly question. But what’s the email address one

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Okay, this will sound like a silly question. But what’s the email address one can send feedback too? > On 18/09/2019, at 1:37 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Petrus, > Send Apple feedback on this. I may have to do it again. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... >

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Petrus, Send Apple feedback on this. I may have to do it again. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 6:21 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: I don’t think there is, not sure why as it is a good

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Not a tutorial but there is a user guide. Check the Books store. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 6:14 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: That reminds me. Is there a voiceover tutorial on the

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
I don’t think there is, not sure why as it is a good idea. I’d like to be proven wrong if someone else knows of such a function. > On 18/09/2019, at 1:14 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > That reminds me. > Is there a voiceover tutorial on the IPhone like there is on the mac? a > getting

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
That reminds me. Is there a voiceover tutorial on the IPhone like there is on the mac? a getting started that walks you through basic steps? On Wed, 18 Sep 2019, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Yes, just press the side button three times like you used to do with the home button once the phone

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
oh I moved it using up and down arrows without interacting so I guess it works that way too. > On Sep 17, 2019, at 7:21 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > It's a slider so you need to interact with it. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
It's a slider so you need to interact with it. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 5:08 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: I found it in the announcements tab in verbosity. when I checked it it

RE: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yes as petrus advised, Triple click / press of the power button that’s the top single button on the right hand side. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Loy Green Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2019 10:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: enableing voice over on

Re: Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Dave, great to see you again. I think the standing assumption is that VO remains depressed during the entire experience or that the VO keys are locked with semicolon. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 17, 2019, at 6:40 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Leo, > I found a mistake in your instructions.

Re: cursors and turning on Siri

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
pretty cool! thanks. > On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:45 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: > > Open the main Menu VO M and go down to Preferences, interact with the > Preferences pain and arrow across until you find Siri. You can turn on things > like Hey Siri or set a key combo to talk to Siri, like

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
I found it in the announcements tab in verbosity. when I checked it it said "4 seconds" but I could arrow up to 0. > On Sep 17, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Tim, > I have mine set the same, except I can’t find where you have the mouse cursor > speaking after a 0 second delay.

Re: Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread Dave Carlson
Leo, I found a mistake in your instructions. When you want to add another to the selection, it’s VO+Command+Return. Not simply Command+Return. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Dave Carlson
Tim, I have mine set the same, except I can’t find where you have the mouse cursor speaking after a 0 second delay. Where is that? Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries

Re: enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Yes, just press the side button three times like you used to do with the home button once the phone is powered on. The side button is the same as the power button. And I always like to plug the phone in to turn it on as it will make that apple chime as they all do when you plug them in, as

Re: cursors and turning on Siri

2019-09-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Open the main Menu VO M and go down to Preferences, interact with the Preferences pain and arrow across until you find Siri. You can turn on things like Hey Siri or set a key combo to talk to Siri, like command space. > On 18/09/2019, at 10:21 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > thanks. I hardly

enableing voice over on new IPhone

2019-09-17 Thread Loy Green
Getting a newer IPhone xs. Can I enable voice over without sighted help? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Personal preference. I set it to on which allows me to wrap on menus for one thing. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 3:25 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: what do you think about cursor

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
what do you think about cursor wrapping? is yours on or off? My Youtube Channel: "www.youtube.com/loriemccloud > On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > As ET mentioned, the cursor tracking items are in the VO Utility under

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, As ET mentioned, the cursor tracking items are in the VO Utility under the Navigation category. The items which has VO announce what's under the mouse, is in the Verbosity category, in the Announcements tab. You can toggle this on/off and set the delay before announcing. I have it on,

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
thanks. I hardly ever use siri on my Mac. maybe I should find out how to activate it. I have a touch pad but I mostly use the keyboard. I have a Mac Mini with a standard Apple keyboard. I have to use fn with vo and F8 in order to get the utility open. Lorie > On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:15 PM,

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
I know Lorie has already opened Voice Over utility, but there is a few ways of doing it. I try and do things manually as well but last week I had the same brain block so I just asked Siri to open Voice over Utilities. I’m not sure if this one works on Macs without the Touch Bar but I can

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
I found how to synchronize the 2 cursors. where do I set vo to read what's under the mouse pointer? seems like mouse pointer should be in there somewhere. also, should I have cursor wrapping enabled? thanks. > On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:30 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > VO-f8, or

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo utility. On

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo utility. > On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > VO Utility, Navigation. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
VO Utility, Navigation. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I think that might help me

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud
Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I think that might help me navigate some websites. thanks. Lorie > On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO >

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO focus. I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 second delay. It works well for me except in some web situations whereby if the mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus difficulties. Very rare

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi, control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor. It can go where keyboard focus might not can. Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus. It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock the mouse it will follow vo automatically. > On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27,

cursors

2019-09-17 Thread hemachandran karah
Dear all, As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. For example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate various cursors? For what purposes? I will be grateful for an answer. Take care, Hem. Hemachandran Karah HSS Faculty, IIT Madras. -- The

Status bar on IPad Mini

2019-09-17 Thread Marie
The new Mini is my first IPad and I seem to have a difficult time locating the status bar with any regularity. Is there a secret for accomplishing this? Thanks, Marie -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns

Re: Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Okay. I'm an even bigger idiot. I now see and understand Leo's message and all works perfectly now. I approached this thread from the wrong direction. Long story. while I'm at it, is there a new method for dragging and dropping items in something like iTunes or reordering mailboxes in

Re: Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Just follow Tim's advice to in dealing with noncontiguous files and you will be good to go. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 9/17/2019 7:39 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: Not sure I follow.  Who was

Re: Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Leo also posted a response before mine. Pasted below: On Sep 17, 2019, at 03:10, Leo wrote: Hi Kevin, this is the way I do it, First of all, interact with the list of items in finder. Go to the first item you want to select, press vo plus command plus return. keep pushing vo, and

Re: Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Not sure I follow. Who was Leo? On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 8:24:30 AM UTC-5, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > What you read on Apple Vids was the original method. Manipulating cursor > tracking is no longer necessary. Leo's instructions are spot on. I'll > emphasize though that you

Re: Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, What you read on Apple Vids was the original method. Manipulating cursor tracking is no longer necessary. Leo's instructions are spot on. I'll emphasize though that you need to use VO navigation, not arrow navigation, after selecting the first item otherwise the selection will be lost.

Re: Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread Leo
Hi  Kevin, this is the way I do it, First of all, interact with the list of items in finder. Go to the first item you want to select, press vo plus command plus return. keep pushing vo, and arrow up and down to go to the next items you want to select, everytime you want to add a new item to

Selecting discontiguous files in finder

2019-09-17 Thread Kevin Gibbs
Sorry for this dumb question. I looked it up in Apple Vis and I got something like: Select your first file and then turn cursor tracking off with VO Shift F3 VO down arrow to the next track you want and select it with VO Command SPACE. This doesn’t work because it brings up a VO Window with