Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!…

2011-11-11 Thread Cara Quinn
I thought all of you might find this really interesting. This is actually really amazing news for us in the blind community! This is the first step to dealing with some of the extraordinarily difficult issues we've all had at times in accessing important content on the web! This is truly a

Re: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!…

2011-11-11 Thread Esther
Hi Cara and Others, Actually, the more interesting comment on this was the Matt Legend Gemmell's rewrite of the announcement on his blog, which presented his condensed version of how Adobe should have written this announcement for both clarity and better relations. I'll excerpt his comments

RE: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!.

2011-11-11 Thread Daniel Miller
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!. Hi Cara and Others, Actually, the more interesting comment

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2011-11-11 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hmm, In the mobile space yes. But I don't see this news effecting flash on desktops anytime soon. Soon meaning 3 years or less in this case. And its flash on desktops that is the real thorn in the backside as far as accessibility is concerned. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter

Re: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!.

2011-11-11 Thread Esther
Hi Daniel, I'd have to interpret Cara's subject line and post in order to answer your question, but I think the reason for her subject line is that Adobe will be focusing their development efforts on HTML5, which is accessible to VoiceOver. Furthermore, if you read the comments in response to

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2011-11-11 Thread Chris Blouch
: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!. Hi Cara and Others, Actually, the more interesting comment on this was the Matt Legend Gemmell's rewrite of the announcement on his blog, which presented his condensed version of how Adobe should have written this announcement for both clarity and better

RE: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!.

2011-11-11 Thread Daniel Miller
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!. Hi Daniel, I'd have to interpret Cara's subject line and post in order to answer your question, but I think the reason for her subject line is that Adobe will be focusing their development efforts on HTML5

Re: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!…

2011-11-11 Thread Chris Blouch
What developers yearn for is write-once for all platform solutions. So if I can make one web page that generally works for iOS and Desktop, why do a 'separate but equal' implementation in flash? Everybody knows that eventually serving two masters ends badly. Sure flash will linger on but fewer

Re: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!…

2011-11-11 Thread Ricardo Walker
Right, I agree. What I said was, this won't mean much for accessibility in the short term. Flash is still saturating the market. Its not just going to go away over night. Especially when Adobe is still putting out updates. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296

Re: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!.

2011-11-11 Thread Teresa Cochran
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!. Hi Cara and Others, Actually

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2011-11-11 Thread Ricardo Walker
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:28 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!. Hi Cara and Others, Actually, the more interesting comment on this was the Matt Legend Gemmell's

Re: Adobe Flash - This is amazing news for us!…

2011-11-11 Thread Chris Blouch
True, but I think Adobe might be paving the cowpath. Apple/Jobs threw down the gauntlet forcing many developers to dip their toes into HTML5 who might have just hung out forever in the Flash camp. So with the popularity of the iOS platform we're already getting benefits of mindshare from

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2011-11-11 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
I was talking with my brother today. it was his opinion that the decision by adobe would not have happened wthout the death of steve jobs. he was telling me that their feud was so bitter that neither would have ever changed their minds. I'm just glad that his unwillingness to allow flash