Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Donna Goodin
gt;>> lease. As my favorite talk show host Gene Burns used to say before he >>>>>>>> passed, “That’s why they make Chocolate and Vanilla”. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6/9/16, 11:43 AM, "

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Tim Kilburn
> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Remember that for many, any change is hard at first. Its not until >>>>>>>> one has hands on that change can be seen as good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I jus

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Donna Goodin
t;>>>> Remember that for many, any change is hard at first. Its not until >>>>>>>> one has hands on that change can be seen as good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just read the article, most of it anyway. It does make

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Mary Otten
t;>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a minute you guyes. You are paniccing over nothing really >>>>>>>> nothing. >>>>>>>> Read that article very carefully. It does NOT say that all apps will >>>>>

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Donna Goodin
uter with full accessibility for the >>>>>>> blind built-in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! >>>>>&g

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Scott Granados
bash >>>>>> Microsoft and still can in many areas but this office 365 thing, not >>>>>> bad and 9 bucks a month or $89 per year, that’s totally worth it when >>>>>> you consider buying office used to be $500 or so and that di

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Donna Goodin
lly worth it when >>>>> you consider buying office used to be $500 or so and that didn’t include >>>>> unlimited upgrades. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Subscription is good, keeps the products developing and lower

RE: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Friday, 10 June 2016 7:34 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads Do you mean Monday? If so, possibly. > On 10 Jun 2016, at 08

RE: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Friday, 10 June 2016 6:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

RE: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
-Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Friday, 10 June 2016 4:07 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals

RE: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
ooglegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads Hi all! How are you all? I'm trying to understand htis article! so this emans that we will be charge for the apps we use monthly?

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread christopher hallsworth
.com] On Behalf Of Helga Schreiber > Sent: Friday, 10 June 2016 1:28 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster > Approvals, and Search Ads > > Hi all! How are you all? I'm trying to underst

RE: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads Hi all! How are you all? I'm trying to understand htis article! so this emans that we will be charge for the apps we use monthly? I'm just wndering. It is talking about a subscription or soemthing like that! So if we search

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread David Tanner
Well I guess I believe that given the way things are today there are times when pain is subscription comes out cheaper than if you went the other way. For example with Apple Music if I wasn't paying a preferred subscription and got all the music I've gotten from Apple Music I'd be broken whole

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
nd <clgillan...@gmail.com> Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Date: Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 9:32 AM To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads --

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Instructor. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Scott Granados To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
nd <clgillan...@gmail.com> Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Date: Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 9:32 AM To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads --

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
-- From: Helga Schreiber To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads Hi all! How are you all? I'm trying to under

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Scott Granados
ts developing and lowers the cost >>>> of entry. I think we all tend to forget what stuff used to cost when we >>>> complain now. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *<macvision

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread E.T.
onaries@googlegroups.com> *Date: *Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 10:18 AM *To: *<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject: *Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads Just a minute you guyes. You are paniccing over nothing really no

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
One clarification, "leading software" should have been "leasing software". Sometimes my fingers don't go where I tell them :) CB On 6/9/16 12:07 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Good points, Chris. I've long felt that upgrade shouldn't need to be free. If a developer works to build new features

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Donna Goodin
Good points, Chris. I've long felt that upgrade shouldn't need to be free. If a developer works to build new features into their software, they should be able to charge for them. Then I as the consumer can decide whether those upgrades matter to me or not. If they do I simply pay for the

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Donna Goodin
gillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>I agree. This could be a baunified disaster, as I have so >>>many apps I've purchased over the years from the app store, >>>that having to pay for all o

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
My only concern is that leading software can lead to some developers slacking off if they have their app pretty much working correctly. Back in the day people kept upgrading computers and apps because the new ones were faster and the apps had lots of new features. At some point the computers

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Scott Granados
; >> >> >> *From: *<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Ray Foret jr >> <rforet7...@comcast.net> >> *Reply-To: *<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> *Date: *Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 10:18 AM >> *To: *<macvisionaries@google

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread E.T.
behalf of Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> *Reply-To: *<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Date: *Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 10:18 AM *To: *<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject: *Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Mary Otten
r > work with computers, computers suck, yada yada yada but here we are.:) > > From: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Mary Otten > <motte...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Date: Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 10:24 AM > To: <

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Mary Otten
yada yada yada but here we are.:) > > From: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Mary Otten > <motte...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Date: Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 10:24 AM > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com&

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Donna Goodin
from the app store, that having to pay for all >>>>> of them each month could get incredibly, and I do mean, incredibly! >>>>> expensive. >>>>> --- >>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>> Traini

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Donna Goodin
; Training Instructor. >>>> >>>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> >>>>

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Scott Granados
ies@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Date: Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 10:24 AM To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals,

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Mary Otten
mcast.net> > Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Date: Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 10:18 AM > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster > Approvals, and Search Ads > > Just a min

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Scott Granados
ursday, June 09, 2016 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads Hi all! How are you all? I'm trying to understand htis article! so this emans that we will be charge for the apps we use monthly? I'm just wndering. It is talk

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Tim Kilburn
; To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster > Approvals, and Search Ads > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of th

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Mary Otten
ristopher Gilland >>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>> Training Instructor. >>>> >>>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Helga Schreiber >>>> To:

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Mary Otten
gmail.com> > Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Date: Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 9:32 AM > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster > Approvals, and Search Ads > > -- > The fo

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Ray Foret jr
gt;> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>> Training Instructor. >>> >>> clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>> - Original Message ----- >>> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.co

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Donna Goodin
It is true that change is a constant, and that we all have to be able to adapt to it. But that does not mean we should blindly roll over and passively accept whatever changes come our way. If you don't critically evaluate change and advocate for what you believe is right, you have no one but

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Donna Goodin
ail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com> >> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >> - Original Message - >> From: Helga Schreiber <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Scott Granados
ies@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> Reply-To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Date: Thursday, June 9, 2016 at 9:32 AM To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pr

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Daniel Miller
fied, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > clgillan...@gmail.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > - Original Message - > From: Helga Schreiber > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription P

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
. clgillan...@gmail.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Helga Schreiber To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads Hi all! How

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Donna Goodin
Because, it guarantees developers an income, but users continue to pay whether there are upgrades or not. Unless I really want an app or a service, if it requires a subscription, I don't buy. I don't want 500 different monthly charges for things. I agree, this is the way the computer

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi all! How are you all? I'm trying to understand htis article! so this emans that we will be charge for the apps we use monthly? I'm just wndering. It is talking about a subscription or soemthing like that! So if we search something, adds will appear,and then if we get the apps, we will need

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Scott Granados
I’m with you Daniel, I don’t see this as necessarily a bad thing. Most of computing is moving to a subscription model. Microsoft, Google, and on and on. I’m a big fan of stuff in the cloud though and moving the smarts away from the end devices but that’s me. On 6/9/16, 9:02 AM, "Daniel

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Daniel Miller
I don't exactly see how this is a bad thing for users, but keep on keeping on, I suppose yes, the ads suck, but it's called change. Everybody needs to adapt. Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus > On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Yep, this is a great thing for the

Re: Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-09 Thread Donna Goodin
Yep, this is a great thing for the developers, a not so great thing for the users. In my case, if my only choice is to subscribe, I will simply not purchase. Cheers, Donna > On Jun 8, 2016, at 10:08 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > Daring Fireball (which, I think it’s

Daring Fireball: The New App Store: Subscription Pricing, Faster Approvals, and Search Ads

2016-06-08 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Daring Fireball (which, I think it’s fair to say, is a PR arm for Apple) just published this. Link: http://daringfireball.net/2016/06/the_new_app_store Thank God ads are only in the States, for now. But it, and the whole concept of