Yippee!  Look what some enterprising individual found.  Now I have my number 
pad back in my window-eyes virtual machine and I'm a very happy customer.

Enjoy,

Erik Burggraaf
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> From: cov...@ccs.covici.com
> Date: August 25, 2010 11:42:25 AM EDT
> To: Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List <msp_mail...@codefactory.cat>
> Subject: Re: mac numper pad was Re: [MSP] A thought to ponder: why people are 
> sort of afraid tomoveonto touch devices
> Reply-To: Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List 
> <msp_mail...@codefactory.cat>
> 
> go to http://pqrs.org and look for keyboardremapper.
> 
> erik burggraaf <ri...@mnsi.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, where did you get this miracle program please?  I need, need, need it 
>> pretty much last year.  My window-eyes experience in virtual machines has 
>> fallen off dramaticly since apple removed it's number pad.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Erik
>> On 2010-08-24, at 10:48 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Now I am finding the opposite --  I have a MAC and even though its a
>>> laptop, I have a program to get a simulated numeric pad using the fn
>>> key.  I can use VO with that pretty well, although I don't care for
>>> Safari that much -- to me its quite cumbersome to use compared to
>>> WindowEyes.
>>> 
>>> Scott Granados <sc...@granados-llc.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Apple's implimentation is quite good.
>>>> 
>>>> I've also been using voice over on a Mac having just gotten one and
>>>> I'm really loving not having to use the keyboard at all to navigate.
>>>> Working with the trackpad has such a more natural flow and the
>>>> interactions are almost the same as the sited use so working
>>>> colaboratively on projects is more smooth.  None of this disconnect
>>>> between what's on the display and what's being represented by jfw.
>>>> 
>>>> I find the same thing with the IPhone.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "CrisMunoz54" <crismuno...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List'"
>>>> <msp_mail...@codefactory.cat>
>>>> Cc: "'Mobile Speak/Magnifier Smartphone Users List'"
>>>> <mss_mail...@codefactory.cat>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:28 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: [MSP] A thought to ponder: why people are sort of afraid
>>>> tomoveonto touch devices
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Using msp 2.1, I find the virtual keyboard useful for things like automatic
>>>> prompts when calling my credit card company/bank/utilities etc. outside of
>>>> that however, I just don’t' see how practicle using the keyboard for
>>>> texting, composing e-mails or other text input would be. Yes, my experience
>>>> is only limited to my device (htc TYTN) and msp so I don't know if perhaps
>>>> newer versions of msp are perhaps better or if the iPhone for example has a
>>>> better/more efficient layout/solution to this feature. If so, I'd like to
>>>> know.
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't upgrade to msp 4.5 since the future of winmo  7 seems to be merky
>>>> as of now, (a topic for another discussion) and since the upgrade is more 
>>>> or
>>>> less the cost of one of the new droid or iPhones I won't until things 
>>>> become
>>>> clearer in the phone market and on ms with how they'll go forward with the
>>>> new winmo platform too.
>>>> 
>>>> Everyone says to just get a Bluetooth keyboard as an alternative, but at
>>>> least in my circumstance, having to lug around gadgets upon gadgets with
>>>> their respective cables, batteries and god knows whatever else adaptors and
>>>> plugs (I travel internationally so plug and electric converters have to be
>>>> considered when I pack) is incredibly unappealing to me. That and I just
>>>> don't want to strap on all those devices on to my belt just to go to dinner
>>>> with my wife or to the grocery store and look like some star wars storm
>>>> trooper or something either. This is why I picked the TYTN when browsing 
>>>> for
>>>> a phone. It has everything, quadband cell phone, PDA and qwerty keyboard.
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, on a sidenote, I just saw on CNet that Apple's going to have their
>>>> annual September iPod event on the 7th. Who knows, maybe they'll roll out
>>>> some new iPod Touch models and OS upgrades that'll shake things up even
>>>> more...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> How do
>>> you spend it?
>>> 
>>>        John Covici
>>>        cov...@ccs.covici.com
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> How do
> you spend it?
> 
>         John Covici
>         cov...@ccs.covici.com
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