Hi Steve and list,

Steve, though I agree with you and also with your choice of rather forceful 
language ;) it's completely not cool on this list.

So this is your warning. Do not use the colorful language here in future, K?

This goes for all of us. Easy on the choice words. K?

Thanks a bunch and have a great weekend!

Y'all rock!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote:

I wonder what it will take to get Google to just get on with implementing HTML5 
and dump this fuckin' flash! I refuse to install that parasite on my system 
under any condition. I may be missing lots of youtube content, but I refuse to 
compromise my computer with inaccessible flash players and Adobe flatly refuses 
to make any accessibility improvements to this so-called product.

On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately the frame command does not work on other videos. Often after 
> activating links to videos Voice Over are already interacting with the html 
> or flash player already, but this may not be true all the time. I use a 
> physical mouse together with keyboard. In Voice Over utility i have set the 
> mouse to speak immediately at once. When i move the mouse over the html/flash 
> player Voice Over says "group". If i left click with the mouse at this time, 
> i can often interact with the keyboard commands, but have to wait for the 
> advertisement to finish or there can not be a link under the mouse on the 
> html/flash player. 
> 
> If there is a way to get Voice Over to focus on the player, the 
> SHIFT-VO-COMMAND+SPACEBAR may work.
> 
> Take care 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> How do you know if it is a flash player or html player? Voice Over only says 
>> "Group" on this mac. 
>> 
>> I found a way to interact with Voice Over on this player. Don`t know if it 
>> is a html 5 or flash player. The player is a frame. If you are using a 
>> bluetooth keyboard you may use the FN key in combination with the commands 
>> described below. At the bottom there is a link to a you tube video about 
>> some fruit, but below that video there is written You Tube player commands.
>> 
>> 1. First interact with html - VO-SHIFT-M
>> 2. Go to next frame by typing the command key VO-COMMAND-F
>> 3. Type the mouse down command - SHIFT-VO-COMMAND+SPACEBAR
>> 4. Type k to play and pause.
>> 5. Type M to mute and unmute. Arrow up or down to increase or decrease 
>> volume.
>> 6. ESC to minimase the You Tube player window may be nescessary
>> http://brokensecrets.com/2013/04/11/youtube-keyboard-shortcuts/
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 
>> 6. okt. 2013 kl. 03:42 skrev Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net>:
>> 
>>> Yes, I am having the exact same issue, same thing for chrome. Nice to know 
>>> I am not the only one.
>>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 2:47 AM, Ray Foret jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It seems that if a video is not an HTML 5 video, it will not play in 
>>>> Safari anymore.  I do have the latest flash player.  Also, I discovered 
>>>> that every single time I do click on an HTML 5 video, the volume is all 
>>>> the way down to zero on the player and there is no way to play videos 
>>>> which are not HTML 5 at all.
>>>> 
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>>> built-in!
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
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