Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-14 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! No i don’t experiencing this issue. Some pages as you said is giving these busy things but most of them have refreshable content. /A > 12 juni 2018 kl. 20:57 skrev Jonathan Cohn : > > Are people experiencing this issue running under High Sierra? I can > consistently get my El Capitan system

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-13 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Hello, My understanding of the Mac Mini is that they do have significant issues if you do not have a monitor attached. Several on this list have recommendations for pseudo monitors if you don’t want to find an inexpensive display to connect to your Mac Mini. Jonathan > On Jun 12, 2018, at 4:21

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-13 Thread alia robinson
googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain? Hi Jonathan, Its happening in safari also and sometimes the desk top! Mac mini 16 gig ram El capitan. It just happens more in pro tools though. T

RE: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain? What preferences do you suggest I reset? It happens both on my account and on a “guest” account. On Jun 12, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: Does this happen on other use

RE: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain? Hi Jonathan, Its happening in safari also and sometimes the desk top! Mac mini 16 gig ram El capitan. It just happens more in

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Jessica Moss
Can that be reported as an accessibility issue? > On Jun 12, 2018, at 12:00 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > It's usually a VO thing. The sighted user doesn't get the entire page > buffered into the speech synthesizer so the loading process is somewhat > different. > > Later... > > Tim Ki

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Christine Grassman
No, I haven’t. I’m clueless; I am one of those who is terrified of screwing up something if I do not know absolutely everything about what I am doing. I’ll look into it, though; this is becoming exceedingly disruptive. > On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > HI! > Have you u

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Eric Oyen
I see this on a lot of websites on my high Sierra system here (Mac mini with 8 GB ram). It happens in chrome, safari and even Firefox. I have even tried comparison runs on my windows machine concurrent (windows 7 using jaws) and it seems that the website coding is a bit more Microsoft centric (s

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Jonathan, Its happening in safari also and sometimes the desk top! Mac mini 16 gig ram El capitan. It just happens more in pro tools though. Talk soon Chuck On Jun 12, 2018, at 2:59 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > AH Chuck, but I believe AVID is not a web browser so that is a different > issue.

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Jonathan Cohn
AH Chuck, but I believe AVID is not a web browser so that is a different issue. > On Jun 12, 2018, at 10:27 AM, CHUCK REICHEL > wrote: > > Hi Tim, > I and several other Avid Pro Tools beta testers are getting the dreaded > "SWOD" spinning wheel of death "busy" issue. > We've got it down to th

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Are people experiencing this issue running under High Sierra? I can consistently get my El Capitan system to go into busy state from the link list menu, but my HS system generally works except for sites that like to move content around the screen constantly. One other possibility is to bring up

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Anders Holmberg
HI! Have you used any cleaning utilities to clear out cache and history data and such? That might help. /A > 12 juni 2018 kl. 15:53 skrev Christine Grassman : > > Yes, I used to have luck with these suggestions most of the time, but it > happens persistently now, no matter what the site, and wi

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Christine Grassman
Take your pick of any common web site, and it happens: Amazon, Netflix, government web sites, news sites, commercial sites. I changed preferences as suggested, and now it keeps saying “loaded” as I read the page. Christine > On Jun 12, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > Try go

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Try going into VO Utility, Web, then Page Loading tab. Uncheck both items in there and change the "While Loading" menu to "Do Nothing". Also, could you send an example link of one of the sites that gives you grief? I'd like to see how it behaves for me. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teache

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Christine Grassman
> What preferences do you suggest I reset? It happens both on my account and on a “guest” account. > On Jun 12, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Does this happen on other user accounts? Have you tried resetting your VO > preferences? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 12, 20

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Tim, I and several other Avid Pro Tools beta testers are getting the dreaded "SWOD" spinning wheel of death "busy" issue. We've got it down to the Video card in the mac mini and any other "slower" video card macs use. I'm believing for a mac pro or Imac pro to circumnavigate this very annoying

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Hmmm. I don't experience that sort of thing. I do have 16 GB of RAM with a 3.1 GHz processor though, so I would reaffirm that if you're only running with 4 GB of RAM with a MacBook Air, you're going to experience this more often. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Alex Hall
Does this happen on other user accounts? Have you tried resetting your VO preferences? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 12, 2018, at 05:34, David Chittenden wrote: > > My partner switched to Chrome because of the constantly spinning icon which > means busy for the sighted. So, though not as bad

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Christine Grassman
I switched to Chrome to avoid this garbage, but it is doing the same thing, almost as often. > On Jun 12, 2018, at 5:34 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > > My partner switched to Chrome because of the constantly spinning icon which > means busy for the sighted. So, though not as bad for sighted f

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread Christine Grassman
Yes, I used to have luck with these suggestions most of the time, but it happens persistently now, no matter what the site, and with chrome as well. It says busy, and/or freezes until I move to another application, and not until the computer seems to “hiccup” and say “VoiceOver on” can I attempt

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-12 Thread David Chittenden
My partner switched to Chrome because of the constantly spinning icon which means busy for the sighted. So, though not as bad for sighted folk, it can and does happen, depending on the age and power of the system. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-11 Thread E.T.
Tim, Probably also is why VoiceOver seems to go very low when VO commands are executed. Does not make for a pleasant experience. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 6/11/2018 9:00 PM, Tim Kilburn w

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-11 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, It's usually a VO thing. The sighted user doesn't get the entire page buffered into the speech synthesizer so the loading process is somewhat different. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 11, 2018, at 20:29, Arnold Schmi

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-11 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I have always been curious: Is this strictly a VoiceOver issue, or would a sighted person also have problems using Safari on these sights? Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Jun 11, 2018, at 8:58 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, This is caused usually by sites that have a lot of con

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-11 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, This is caused usually by sites that have a lot of content and complicated coding. Sometimes, I just cmd-tab out of Safari, then do something for a few seconds, then cmd-tab back into Safari and things are better. Other times, I toggle VO off, wait a few seconds then turn it back on. Oth

Re: Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-11 Thread Jessica Moss
I’d really love to know that too, for the exact same reason. I had this same issue several times, one of them being during a critical time today when I was trying to navigate the myflorida site, which I not only dispise, had verry little time to do it in, and had to get Hannah’s medicaid form f

Once and for all, is there a darned thing I can do to stop all my web browsers from the "busy" refrain?

2018-06-11 Thread Christine Grassman
Ugh! It’s infuriating, especially when I am working on something significant. Christine -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropr