RE: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-20 Thread Simon Fogarty
naries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters Hi, I think that Jonathan is onto something with his response. In regular documents, in most cases, the headings and such that are in all caps, still read as the word as opposed to the spelled out cap letters, w

RE: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-20 Thread Simon Fogarty
the changes in speech you hear. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2018 2:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital l

Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-20 Thread Jonathan Cohn
An interesting parallel discussion in WEB AIM where somebody wanted to make sure “N” followed by “E” would be pronounced as separate characters. Who things to notice here: 1. the quoted word in Voice Over (El Capitan ) is spelled out. 2. The technique of inserting pseudo elements with ARIA into

Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-20 Thread E.T.
Have you run this by Apple Accessibility? From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/20/2018 7:02 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: OK, I found the culprit. It's the word "MAC"! Something else odd is also

Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-20 Thread Steve Matzura
OK, I found the culprit. It's the word "MAC"! Something else odd is also going on because on some Web pages I hear phrases and sometimes entire short sentences spelled out with VO that I don't get presented that way in Windows, so there's probably some funky punctuation going on that maybe

Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-20 Thread E.T.
Yes exactly. Idiosyncrasy is fitting too. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/20/2018 7:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, I think that Jonathan is onto something with his response.  In regular

Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I think that Jonathan is onto something with his response. In regular documents, in most cases, the headings and such that are in all caps, still read as the word as opposed to the spelled out cap letters, whereas on the Net and in some pdf's, it is read out as Steve explains. For the

Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-20 Thread E.T.
Sounds like something not easily remedied, perhaps with the pronunciation dictionary. I do not read ads myself so perhaps not an issue for me. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 4/20/2018 6:41

Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-20 Thread Jonathan Cohn
That might have to do with how CSS is set up for those advertisements. If I type BIG SAVINGS my VoiceOVer reads the words and not the letters. Though while typing it it spoke the letters. I have on occasion put a word into the pronunciation dictionary that did not handle the speaking of

Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-20 Thread Steve Matzura
On 4/19/2018 9:33 PM, E.T. wrote:    I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a document in TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as expected, for example it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting you might look at in VO Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab.

Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-19 Thread E.T.
I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a document in TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as expected, for example it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting you might look at in VO Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's an option that affects how

RE: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-19 Thread Simon Fogarty
naries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters I stand corrected if I am wrong, but to my knowledge, there are no VO settings for all caps words. You can change how capital letters are handled, but I don't recall anything that relates to an all cap

Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

2018-04-19 Thread John Panarese
I stand corrected if I am wrong, but to my knowledge, there are no VO settings for all caps words. You can change how capital letters are handled, but I don't recall anything that relates to an all caps word. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email,