Re: Menu Extras

2019-02-14 Thread Lorie McCloud
I was out for awhile and when I got back here I tried vo MM again and I could hear everything like normal so I guess it was that malwarebytes thing after all. I'll try doing what you suggested with control f8 though just in case I need it. thanks. Lorie > On Feb 14, 2019, at 2:17 PM, 'Tim

Re: Menu Extras

2019-02-14 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I was able to partially duplicate your issue when I used ctrl-f8. Once focus moved up to the Menu Extras, only one item was available. To fix this, I let go of the VO keys, then pressed the right arrow, then pressed the VO keys once again and was able to navigate normally in the Menu

Re: Menu Extras

2019-02-14 Thread Lorie McCloud
yes. I'm using vo left and right to navigate. it won't go anywhere. My Youtube Channel: "www.youtube.com/loriemccloud > On Feb 14, 2019, at 12:59 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > Are you using VO-left/right to move through the Menu Extras?

Re: Menu Extras

2019-02-14 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Are you using VO-left/right to move through the Menu Extras? Menu Extras is a different animal, and does not allow simple arrow navigation. You must also use VO-space to activate. This behaviour is different than in the regular menus, but has been this way for quite a number of MacOS

Re: Menu Extras

2019-02-14 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
The app probably has an uninstall option on its Help menu. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/14/2019 10:52 AM, Lorie McCloud wrote: I removed malwarebytes by deleting the app. I don't know if

Re: menu extras

2019-02-10 Thread Lorie McCloud
thanks Anne. you know a lot about this stuff and I really appreciate it. My Youtube Channel: "www.youtube.com/loriemccloud > On Feb 10, 2019, at 4:32 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Lorie, > The page up and page down keys do exactly what their names suggest, but

Re: menu extras

2019-02-10 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
on the function row and in other cases. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 9:54 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: menu extras many thanks! can you tell me about the fn key? I have

Re: menu extras

2019-02-10 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Lorie, The page up and page down keys do exactly what their names suggest, but this is just a visual effect. They do not move any cursors. However, they are used with VO commands, as are the Home and End keys. Cheers, Anne > On 10 Feb 2019, at 01:07, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > while

RE: menu extras

2019-02-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
multiple functions from the keys on the function row and in other cases. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Lorie McCloud Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 9:54 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: menu extras many thanks! can you tell me

Re: menu extras

2019-02-09 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Press VO + k for keyboard help and start pressing keys to learn who i where. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/9/2019 4:07 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: does that also mean it's to the right of the

Re: menu extras

2019-02-09 Thread Lorie McCloud
does that also mean it's to the right of the delete key? while I'm on the subject of these keys, do the page up and page down keys do anything at all on a Mac? they don't seem to work as they did in windows either in a browser or in an editing program. My Youtube Channel:

Re: menu extras

2019-02-09 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, On a full size Apple keyboard, the FN key is in the lower left of the block of six keys above the arrow keys. The set where you'd normally find the Page Up/Down and Home/End keys. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 8,

Re: menu extras

2019-02-09 Thread Lorie McCloud
yeah. it just bonks like there's nothing there. My Youtube Channel: "www.youtube.com/loriemccloud > On Feb 8, 2019, at 4:43 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Did you use the arrow keys to navigate the items on menu extras? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... >

Re: menu extras

2019-02-08 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Did you use the arrow keys to navigate the items on menu extras? From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 2/7/2019 10:47 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: is there any way to get to menu extras on a Mac other

Re: menu extras

2019-02-08 Thread Lorie McCloud
isn't there one for sleep? seems like it might be control f11 or f12. > On Feb 8, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Jonathan, > > I use those general commands a lot. > Ctrl-F2 - Apple menu. > Ctrl-F3 - Dock. > Ctrl-F5 - Tool bar. > Ctrl-F8 - Menu extras. > Beware of Ctrl-F1 as

Re: menu extras

2019-02-08 Thread Lorie McCloud
many thanks! can you tell me about the fn key? I have a standard full size keyboard. I'm not even sure where that key is on here. what is the option for this in system preferences and where is it in there? what is it called? thanks. Lorie My Youtube Channel: "www.youtube.com/loriemccloud

Re: menu extras

2019-02-08 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Jonathan, I use those general commands a lot. Ctrl-F2 - Apple menu. Ctrl-F3 - Dock. Ctrl-F5 - Tool bar. Ctrl-F8 - Menu extras. Beware of Ctrl-F1 as it toggles keyboard access on and off. Here we disable that command then use the same keystroke for Speak selected text. I find it useful to

Re: menu extras

2019-02-08 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Agree Jonathan, Nice! Thats one I haven't used till now! :) I'll be using that from now on, while doing a Pro Tools session should make things a bit quicker! Thanks Ann. Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe" "Albert Einstein’ On Feb 8, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >

Re: menu extras

2019-02-08 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Anne, I had completely forgotten about that command even though it has been available longer than VoiceOVer. It works so nicely on an older keyboard (or a PC keyboard) where the F keys are in blocks of four. F keys are > On Feb 8, 2019, at 1:57 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Lorie, >

Re: menu extras

2019-02-07 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Lorie, You can get to menu extras using Control-F8. `you may need to add the FN key if you haven’t switched it in System Preferences. Cheers, Anne > On 8 Feb 2019, at 07:47, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > is there any way to get to menu extras on a Mac other than holding down vo > and

Re: menu extras

2018-11-05 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Try it the other way, maybe it will be more reliable. VO with m twice is actually the correct command. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/5/2018 2:52 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: yes. I hold the

Re: menu extras

2018-11-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
yes. I hold the vo keys and press m twice. it's easier that way. My Youtube Channel: "www.youtube.com/loriemccloud > On Nov 5, 2018, at 4:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Are you holding the VO keys and pressing the letter 'm' twice? Or pressing > VO

Re: menu extras

2018-11-05 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Are you holding the VO keys and pressing the letter 'm' twice? Or pressing VO m twice? The first is what you want to use. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/5/2018 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

Re: menu extras

2018-11-05 Thread Lorie McCloud
I did manage to get it to work after a few more tries. I don't know what makes it do that. > On Nov 5, 2018, at 4:42 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > No it should work the same as earlier versions. > At least it does here. > /A > >> 5 nov. 2018 kl. 05:40 skrev Lorie McCloud : >> >> I've

Re: menu extras

2018-11-05 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! No it should work the same as earlier versions. At least it does here. /A > 5 nov. 2018 kl. 05:40 skrev Lorie McCloud : > > I've been tr;ying to get menu extras to show me the activity with dropbox. > when I press vo-m twice I hear "menu extras. menu extras." nothing else I > can't vo

Re: menu extras

2018-11-04 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
No change in Mojave. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/4/2018 8:40 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: I've been tr;ying to get menu extras to show me the activity with dropbox. when I press vo-m twice

Re: menu extras question

2016-03-06 Thread Gabe Griffith
Hi, Thanks but the control function f8 took me to the exact same place as I get with the VO m twice. Gabe On Mar 6, 2016, at 9:01 PM, syc20...@gmail.com wrote: > There is another way of accessing menu extras which is by pressing control > function F8. See if this works. > > Sent from my

Re: menu extras question

2016-03-06 Thread syc20099
There is another way of accessing menu extras which is by pressing control function F8. See if this works. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 6, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am still running maverics and somehow my menu extras has gotten set

Re: Menu extras keystroke

2015-08-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Wasn't trying to step on your toes, Chris. I was only clarifying. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris challswor...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Menu extras keystroke Ok, so you press and hold the VO keys

Re: Menu extras keystroke

2015-08-06 Thread Pamela Francis
I certainly appreciate that folks. I feel like an idiot. For whatever reason, I drew a complete blank. No, not having a stroke. Just a senior moment. :-) Pam Francis On Aug 6, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Chris challswor...@icloud.com wrote: VO-m-m or control-f8. On 06/08/2015 06:33, Pamela Francis

Re: Menu extras keystroke

2015-08-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Pam, there are a few ways this can be done. Vo+M, followed by a second vo+M will do it. If you'd like to get their more directly though, then just simply press ctrl+F8. Here are two more you may find useful... Ctrl+F2 is the same as pressing vo+M one time to get to the menu bar. And

Re: Menu extras keystroke

2015-08-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
, August 06, 2015 4:13 AM Subject: Re: Menu extras keystroke VO-m-m or control-f8. On 06/08/2015 06:33, Pamela Francis wrote: Folks, forgive my ignorance. I am drawing a blank on the keystroke to get me into menu extras. Thanks much Pam Francis -- You received this message because you

Re: Menu extras keystroke

2015-08-06 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Don't feel stupid! It's quite OK. It happens to the best of us! I'm glad that we all could assist. Chris. - Original Message - From: Pamela Francis gypsykitt...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Menu extras keystroke

Re: Menu extras keystroke

2015-08-06 Thread Chris
the menu. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris challswor...@icloud.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 4:13 AM Subject: Re: Menu extras keystroke VO-m-m or control-f8. On 06/08/2015 06:33, Pamela Francis wrote: Folks, forgive my ignorance. I am

Re: Menu extras keystroke

2015-08-06 Thread Chris
VO-m-m or control-f8. On 06/08/2015 06:33, Pamela Francis wrote: Folks, forgive my ignorance. I am drawing a blank on the keystroke to get me into menu extras. Thanks much Pam Francis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To

Re: Menu extras keystroke

2015-08-05 Thread E.T.
VO with m twice.. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 8/5/2015 10:33 PM, Pamela Francis wrote: Folks, forgive my ignorance. I am drawing a blank on the keystroke to get me into menu extras. Thanks

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-06-06 Thread Chris Meredith
Oh--because I dont have the old machine that was causing problems with the recover partition (although those were also fixed), as my new machine has arrived, thus getting rid of the need to upgrade a recovery partition. If a new machine doesn't have the latest OS, that's a different serious

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-06-02 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
The recovery partition is updated when you upgrade your OS, either by downloading and installing a new release of the OS from the App Store, or by running a system update (also from the App Store since Mountain Lion). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-06-01 Thread Shaf
I have a few mid/early 2015 MBPs. On 6/1/2015 4:57 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: What models are the max? I'll do some research and see if I can figure something out. I have a mid 2012 MacBook air that beeps with FileVault encryption. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 10:46 PM, Chris

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-06-01 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
For various reasons, most particularly the use of Internet Recovery, I suggest getting yourself an Ethernet adaptor regardless. As to your question, though, although I know the menu extras are accessible from within a fully-booted live system, I’m not sure that the same holds true for the

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-06-01 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
FileVault login prompts are announced only on recent Macs. On older Macs you get the beeps. The reason is that the login window isn’t an OS X app but is loaded from the booter partition by the firmware directly. Once you log in the main system will come up speaking. -- You received this

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-06-01 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Just a follow-up to say that I verified that the recovery system of Yosemite does in fact let you access the menu extras. My iMac’s Internet Recovery was for Lion, which definitely doesn’t support this, requiring Ethernet to perform the install accessibly. Hope this helps someone. -- You

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-06-01 Thread Chris Meredith
It does, actually. Do you know if it's possible to upgrade the recovery partition? Although this will be moot shortly, according to the order status notification I got yesterday. On Monday, June 1, 2015, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote: Just a follow-up to say that I verified that

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-06-01 Thread Dan
Hello, Just curious. Why will this be moot? On Jun 1, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Chris Meredith talli...@gmail.com wrote: It does, actually. Do you know if it's possible to upgrade the recovery partition? Although this will be moot shortly, according to the order status notification I got

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-05-31 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi Chris. No, that bug was fixed a couple of years ago. I can't remember and which version of OS X it was fixed with. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 2:49 AM, Chris Meredith talli...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings. So one bug I remember from years back was that, if you tried to

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-05-31 Thread Shaf
I'm running 10.10.3 with all software updates installed. Here's another weird issue: I have multiple Macs with File Vault encryption. One of them self-voices when enabling VoiceOver on the lock screen, the other beeps for username and password. They are both fully updated to the latest

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-05-31 Thread Daniel Miller
What models are the max? I'll do some research and see if I can figure something out. I have a mid 2012 MacBook air that beeps with FileVault encryption. Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2015, at 10:46 PM, Chris Meredith talli...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. My late 2011 unit beeps twice

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-05-31 Thread Chris Meredith
Interesting. My late 2011 unit beeps twice for username and three times for password with FileVault active, and I have the latest updates installed. Also, I'm still encountering the VoiceOver menu extras bug with the recovery partition. I assume theres not anything special I need to do in order

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-05-31 Thread Shaf
Actually There is a bug with VoiceOver where you cannot get into the menu extras with all software updates installed. VoiceOver restar ts itself and takes you out of the menu. On 5/31/2015 5:13 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi Chris. No, that bug was fixed a couple of years ago. I can't remember

Re: Menu extras and recovery partition

2015-05-31 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi. I don't have that bug. I'm able to access the Wi-Fi menu with in recovery partition just fine. I'm running the latest public beta of Yosemite 10.10.4, if that helps though. Although seeing as it's recovery partition, it should reinstall 10.10.3, and not 10.10.4 cents is not released