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On 19/07/2013, at 1:13 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

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> 
> mail focus problem [1 Update]
> mail authentication issue [5 Updates]
> In VMWare, what screen reader modifier key are you using? [3 Updates]
> home, end, pgUp and pgDown on bluetooth keyboards? [2 Updates]
> Mac Mini disconnecting from newly WPA2-secured network [6 Updates]
> Help with Finder [3 Updates]
> questions [1 Update]
> Apple Time Capsule setup [1 Update]
> vm fusion [1 Update]
> accessing ftp servers on the mac transmit vs cyberduck with vo [1 Update]
> Software that will convert speech to text? [1 Update]
>  mail focus problem
> Jed Barton <jedbar...@gmail.com> Jul 19 01:09PM -0400  
> 
> Hey guys,
> I seem to be having a problem with mail, and am curious if anyone knows how 
> to fix it. When i first got my mac, when i would vo left and right arrow, it 
> would flip between the sender of themessage, who it's from, the subject, etc. 
> Now thisseemsto have changed. Now it goes between messages. Any ideas how to 
> change this back?
>  
> Thanks
> Jed
>  
> 
>  mail authentication issue
> Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> Jul 18 10:30PM -0700  
> 
> . Hello. I've been experiencing an issue in which every time I launch mail, I 
> receive the following message:
> Verify certificate. The identity of pop.shaw.ca cannot be verified. The 
> certificate for this server is invalid. You might be connecting to a server 
> that is pretending to be pop.shaw.ca"
>  
> I researched this on google and they stated to 
> 1. Press show certificate.
> 2. Click "trust"
> 3. Click connect.
>  
> However, when I follow these steps, it asks for my password but will not 
> accept said password. The only way I can utilize mail is to click "connect" 
> every time the mail program is launched. I had this issue when I first got 
> this mac but the "trust" option quickly rectified it. Thanks for any help.
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Jul 19 12:03AM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> It's an issue with the Shaw certificate. If you follow the instructions you 
> found on the web, it will rectify that issue. The password that it is asking 
> for is your computer Admin password.  So, the password that you use to log 
> into the computer is the one you need to enter, not your ShawMail password. 
> The Admin password is required because you are specifically adding an 
> untrusted certificate to your Mail app.
>  
> HTH.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
> Maxwell Ivey <maxwelli...@aol.com> Jul 19 01:42AM -0500  
> 
> let me know if you find out why that happens. it happens to me all the time 
> too. good luck, max 
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:30 AM, Kerri wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> Jul 19 09:53AM -0700  
> 
> Hello, Max. Did you try tabbing to show certificate and then tabbing to trust?
>  
> 
> Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> Jul 19 09:58AM -0700  
> 
> thanks but I don't have an admin password!
>  
> 
>  In VMWare, what screen reader modifier key are you using?
> "Phil Halton" <philh...@comcast.net> Jul 19 11:52AM -0400  
> 
> In preparation for getting a macBook Air, and running windows in a vm, I've 
> made the following alterations to my keyboards using SharpKeys. 
> I've set the right option key as capslock, and also, I've set the right 
> windows key(right command) to right control key. I did the control key thing 
> because I noticed in jaws help that the laptop layout sometimes requires 
> control in conjunction with the jaws key, and it was too much of a stretch to 
> use the left control with the right alt (jaws key).
>  
> So, on the bluetooth keyboard, I've got (left to right) 
> function key
> control
> alt
> left windows key
> spacebar
> right control
> capslock.
>  
> On the full-size USB keyboard, to the right of the spacebar, it's right 
> windows key, capslock, right control.
>  
> What are other VMWare users using for screenreader modifier key arrangements? 
> I plan to use both NVDA and JAWS in laptop mode.
> P.S. I suppose one solution to the whole problem is to just carry around and 
> plug in a full sized Apple USB keyboard, keeping screen readers set to 
> desktop layout, but that sounds a little weird.
>  
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> Jul 19 05:03PM +0100  
> 
> Hello Phil.
>  
> I too use NDVA and a demo version of jaws mainly for testing as I test for 
> companies using the Mac and Windows.
>  
> Well, to solve all my problems, I have an Apple USB keyboard which I only use 
> for Window environments. I do not have a MacBook Air or any kind of lap top 
> and just use my I Mac, 16 GB for Mac and 16 GB for windows. No pauses, busy's 
> or anything else to put up with. When Maverick comes, then it's a format of 
> my SSD although I haven't installed anything since I got my Mac in January. 
> It's like having two computers although it's only one! Amazing.
>  
> Kawal.
>  
>  
> 
> jon squally <jonsqua...@gmail.com> Jul 19 09:48AM -0700  
> 
> Hello everyone,
>  
> I have remap the grave accent key to the scroll lock key within Sharkeys. I 
> also set the Joskey from the caps lock key to the scroll lock key. Within 
> settings center, press control plus shift plus D then search for the word 
> Jaws. This will allow you to remap your Joskey for the laptop keyboard layout 
> from caps lock to Scroll lock. This helps with not having to worry about the 
> caps lock key being eaten by the Mack OS.
>  
> Regards, Jon. 
>  
>  
> Jon Squally
> Adaptive Computer Solutions LLC
> Bridging the Gap to Software Accessibility
> Jaws certified 92% 6/2011
> Web site: <http://www.jonsqually.com>
> Phone: 503.752.2291
> Fax: 503.536.6795
> Email: supp...@jonsqually.com
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  home, end, pgUp and pgDown on bluetooth keyboards?
> "Phil Halton" <philh...@comcast.net> Jul 19 11:40AM -0400  
> 
> I'm just preparing to use my Apple wireless bluetooth keyboard, both on 
> MacOSX and VM win7. I'm doing it for practice, setting the windows screen 
> readers to laptop keyboard mode, in the event I go for a MacBook Air. I've 
> heard david woodbridges podcasts where he's always using the function key and 
> an arrow key to get keys that aren't physically on the keyboard, like home 
> and end. 
>  
> How do you get the Home, End, PageUp and PageDown keys, and how does this map 
> over to a VM? Are they the same on the windows side? Is it the arrow keys in 
> conjunction with the Function key?
> Are there any other special "function/key" combos that mapp to the apple 
> bluetooth keyboard? Is there a listing of them somewhere?
>  
> thanks
>  
> 
> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Jul 19 12:45PM -0400  
> 
> Using Function + up down left right gives you PageUp PageDown Home and 
> End respectively. As far as apps like VMWare or the guest OS running 
> inside it they have no idea how the PageDown keystroke was generated, 
> just that it was and will respond as expected.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 7/19/13 11:40 AM, Phil Halton wrote:
>  
> -- 
> Ż\_(?)_/Ż
>  
> 
>  Mac Mini disconnecting from newly WPA2-secured network
> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Jul 18 07:31PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> If you're using an Apple WiFi device like an Express, Extreme or Time 
> Capsule, you can set it to WPA/Wpa2 Personal which may assist the Mini. I'm 
> guessing that the Mini's WiFi card is having difficulties with the WPA2 
> protocol.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Jul 18 09:59PM -0400  
> 
> It's not, it's just an old router from Best Buy. Before I connect, the Mac 
> identifies the network as WPA/WPA2, and once I connect it says only WPA2, so 
> it's probably running in the mode you described already. I say probably 
> because that was not made clear in the router's setup page - all it said was 
> WPA2 Personal. Is there anything else I might try? I'd rather not go back to 
> WEP, since it was shown to be incredibly insecure some years ago. As I said, 
> the Mac is the only device that has trouble, so far as I know at least.
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>  
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Jul 18 10:17PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I wonder if the network order is set wrong for your networks.
>  
> 1. Go to System Prefs.
> 2. Into the Network pane.
> 3. Make sure that WiFI is selected in the Services table.
> 4. Navigate near the bottom of the pane and press the Advanced button.
> 5. In the Preferred Networks table, take a look at the list of remembered 
> networks.
>  
> They are listed in priority sequence. That is, the one at the top will be 
> connected to first, if findable, then the next one down the list, if the 
> first isn't available. It will continue down the list until it finds one in 
> range that is within the list. It adds new ones to the bottom as you add them 
> to your list. So, if your Mini had been connected to one of the other ones at 
> some time, it's possible that one of those is higher in priority.
>  
> You can remove the ones you don't wish in the list, apply your changes and it 
> may fix the issue.  Just be sure that you're connected to your own network 
> when removing the other networks otherwise they won't really get removed.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
> Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Jul 19 06:43AM -0500  
> 
> Hi Tim,
>  
> After seeing this message, I decided to go into my list and clean out some of 
> the networks I no longer use. However, I do not see any way to delete 
> networks from the list. So once you've selected the network you want to 
> remove, how do you go about deleting it?
> thanks,
> Donna
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Jul 19 08:14AM -0400  
> 
> Hi Donna,
>  
> If you VO right arrow from the table listing your prefered networks, you 
> should end up on a group. I forgot what it is called but, interact with this 
> group and inside you will see the rmove button
>  
> hth
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
> Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> Jul 19 07:22AM -0500  
> 
> Hi Ricardo,
>  
> thanks! I had tried clicking on that, but nothing happened, so I thought it 
> was just static text. It's all taken care of now, nice to know how to do 
> this, that list can get sort of cluttered. 
> Cheers,
> Donna
>  
> 
>  Help with Finder
> Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> Jul 18 06:13PM -0500  
> 
> when I first got my Mac, Finder was probably the hardest thing for me. This 
> is because I was not used to the List View mode looks on the Mac compared to 
> Windows. I had never used Column mode in Windows, and now I love it. 
>  
> When I was using Windows, I pressed the enter key if I wanted to access a 
> folder. Doing that on the Mac will cause you to enter renaming mode for 
> renaming your files and folders. I love that now, but I kept wanting to press 
> that enter key to get into my folders. 
>  
> On the Mac, if you use list view mode, the folder name is at the top of your 
> list and you press down arrow below that for the file names. If you choose 
> column mode, which I now prefer, you don't encounter your file names unless 
> you press the right arrow key after you hear the file folder that the file is 
> in. Column mode for me makes it faster to get through things because I don't 
> need to hear all those file names until I want them. 
>  
> Then there's another thing that I had to get used to. If you want to paste a 
> file into a folder, you don't go into the folder. You get on top of it and 
> paste or move it into the folder. The commands for doing these functions are 
> easy, and you will recognize them if you ever had a Windows computer. Copy is 
> command c; paste is command v; move is a little different with option command 
> v. There is a command x for cut and paste but I find moving with option 
> command v to work more consistently. 
>  
> I hope this discussion helps. 
>  
> Oh, another command you might want to remember in case you something horrible 
> you didn't want to (like I did), is command z as in zap to undo something you 
> did. 
>  
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
>  
>  
> 
> Kirsten hill <keesa.h...@gmail.com> Jul 18 08:26PM -0400  
> 
> Hello Eugenia: 
>  
> Thanks so much for your help! My early experience with the finder has been so 
> similar to yours. ☺ 
>  
> Thanks also, to those that took the time to pass along the very helpful 
> hints. I feel much more comfortable in finder now than I did this morning. 
> I'm loving the column view and now with a clearer understanding of the layout 
> I can work at the navigation commands.
>  
> Take care,
> Kirsten 
> 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> Katey Glass <katey...@gmail.com> Jul 18 11:06PM -0400  
> 
> thanks for this very interesting discussion, I'll save it and use it to 
> explore & learn the finder on my mac. I'm still a newbie, and learning. 
> Ironically I seem to use my mac a lot for filling out web forms! Such as 
> those that doctors offices seem to have on their websites now. Even though my 
> iPad has a bluetooth keyboard that I use quite a bit! LOL. 
>  
> I really need to start working with my podcasts again to get really 
> comfortable with my MBA. 
>  
> Katey
>  
> Sent from my iPad
>  
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> 
>  questions
> Abdullah Alsehli <dr.abdull...@gmail.com> Jul 19 05:52AM +0300  
> 
> its macbook bro
>  
> 
>  Apple Time Capsule setup
> Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Jul 18 07:29PM -0600  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> When in Airport Utility, Interact with the Network Group, press VO-space on 
> your Time Capsule, press VO-space on the Edit button just after the Scroll 
> area. Navigate to the Wireless tab and press VO-space on it. Your TC should 
> say that it is set to Join an Existing Network. If it says something about 
> creating a network, then you're likely somehow creating two networks with 
> exactly the same name. Make sure it is set to Join an Existing Network in 
> this pane. After pressing the Edit button, this should take you into the 
> manual setup area for the TC.
>  
> Hope this helps some.
>  
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
>  
> 
>  vm fusion
> "wayne17a" <wayne...@gmail.com> Jul 18 08:29PM -0400  
> 
> Hello all I have managed to download vm fusion but how do I activate the app
> have tried to access the site to find a key but have no luck I have a
> account on the site so I can log in but where do I go for a key to activate
> the trial thanks In advance
>  
> 
>  accessing ftp servers on the mac transmit vs cyberduck with vo
> Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> Jul 19 12:32AM +0200  
> 
> Hi everyone,
> I have some ftp servers that i want to download from with my mac and vo.
> I know you can use command+k but, even though i can login to the servers the 
> downloading process does not always go well.
> I was thinking of using a dedicated client on th e mac,hopefully one htat i 
> can download from the app store so that it will be easier to reget if i get a 
> new laptop.
> The ones that i know off are cyberduck and transmit 4. Does anyone have 
> experience with both of these and can tell me what works best with vo and 
> mountian lion?
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
>  
> 
>  Software that will convert speech to text?
> Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> Jul 18 11:04PM +0100        
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I don't know if you heard of what a group are developing for deaf blind 
> people to receive audio description? It was featured recently on an "In 
> Touch" program broadcast by BBC Radio 4. The transcript should be up on the 
> BBC's In Touch web page.
>  
> From memory, it's an American project. But they didn't mention the software 
> they were using. But memory isn't as good as it used to be.
>  
> Gena
>  
> Please Note:
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>  
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>  
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
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