Safari 2 items, 3 items and internal link?

2013-11-16 Thread Daniel McGee
Hi all, with Safari, anyone no why on earth we get with Voiceover 2 items, 3 items oh and lets not forget that internal link now and then. I don't know if its me but these little things in Safari are starting to get on my nerves. Guess you could say I'm moaning. lol Do they annoy others here.

Re: Safari 2 items, 3 items and internal link?

2013-11-16 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, if you interact with the two items and three items things, you will notice that you can see items on the page that you cannot see without interacting with those items. Not everything on the page is visible on the surface look of the page. So, if you see an item with a label on it that sa

Re: Safari 2 items, 3 items and internal link?

2013-11-16 Thread Nicholas Parsons
The two items three items thing you're hearing is most likely lists with several items. Whenever VoiceOver encounters a list or sub-list, it announces how many items are in the list. I agree it's overly verbose and not really necessary. It's VoiceOver treating the HTML and tags as a separate

Re: Safari 2 items, 3 items and internal link?

2013-11-17 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Have you looked at the advanced verbosity settings within the VO Utility? When in the Verbosity pane of VO Utility, check the box for Advanced Speech Verbosity options, then Interact with the Table and go down the list. You could change the verbosity level for specific elements to a lower

Re: Safari 2 items, 3 items and internal link?

2013-11-18 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Thanks, Tim! I never noticed that option before. For anyone else looking for this, in Mountain Lion at least it's called "additional speech verbosity options check box". I had played with low verbosity before but didn't like that it wouldn't announce buttons, so this should be great for me. Than

VoiceOver Additional Verbosity Options (was Safari 2 items, 3 items and internal link?)

2013-11-19 Thread Nicholas Parsons
HI Tim and others, I've now customised my verbosity options. I've chosen low but tweaked a couple of things in the custom table. However, VoiceOver now doesn't seem to read app badges when I switch to that app in the app chooser. For instance, when I command tab to Mail with verbosity set to med

Re: VoiceOver Additional Verbosity Options (was Safari 2 items, 3 items and internal link?)

2013-11-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Not positive, but I believe that you may wish to put the general verbosity setting back to medium but adjust specific elements to low. There are some things that are not mentioned under the Additional Speech Verbosity options that are affected when you set verbosity to low, medium or high.

Re: VoiceOver Additional Verbosity Options (was Safari 2 items, 3 items and internal link?)

2013-11-19 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Thanks, Tim. I'll see if I can survive without them and if not I'll switch back. I think I'll need to spend a fair bit of time experimenting to learn what they all do and what are the optimum settings for me. Cheers, Nic On 20 Jan 2013, at 2:52 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Not positive, but I b