Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Kevin Shaw
Flash sucks. It's memory intensive, proprietary and made by a company that doesn't care about universal design or accessibility. The odd time I've encountered a Flash intensive page, I've managed to find some type of workaround by getting the information from somewhere else or having someone fi

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Scott Granados
I was going to go there but I figured I'd done enough damage to threads today. Great call! Long live the Pocket Rocket! On Mar 5, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > thanks for the giggle; doubt roller coasters and ferris wheels are in the > same catagory. lol take care, max > On Mar

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Scott Granados
I actually use windows when I need to access flash content. I find having a Windows VM around invaluable. On Mar 5, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > flash is completely inaccessible with vo. I have been bugging the devs over > at adobe for a while now and all I get is form letter responses

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Mary Otten
What about the safari extension that makes at least some flash accessible? That's what makes the samples on audible so easy to play compared to Windows, for instance. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionar

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
thanks for the giggle; doubt roller coasters and ferris wheels are in the same catagory. lol take care, max On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote: On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: Hello; ON my site i sell people's amusement equipment. So you sell Pocket R

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Andre Nuno Soares
On Mar 5, 2011, at 9:28 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > Hello; ON my site i sell people's amusement equipment. So you sell Pocket Rockets? :-) Sorry, just couldn't resist crossing the wires on the 2 threads. André -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Bryan Jones
Hello Eric, In March of 2010, almost a year ago, Adobe posted a blog announcing that the next "major" release of Flash Player will, "...enable accessibility across all three major operating systems (Windows, Mac, and Linux)." . Apparently the next major release will be Flash 11, or whatever t

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Ryan Mann
Are you talking about Click to Flash? I uninstalled that because I could never get it to work. Whenever there was a flash video, there was supposed to be something I could interact with to find a play button, but I could never find that. On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Cn'

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
Hello; ON my site i sell people's amusement equipment. Given differences in bandwidth and internet speed outside the u s, many will send me you tube videos. I have taken to stripping the video and converting it to mp4 so that it can be viewed on all the i devices. My brother gives me gri

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Eric Oyen
flash is completely inaccessible with vo. I have been bugging the devs over at adobe for a while now and all I get is form letter responses. I think they are actually bit-bucketing my e-nails instead of simply taking a look to see what they can do. I don't have a windows box here to dedicate t

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Mike Arrigo
Thi depends on what sites you need to use. I use youtube, and though this uses flash, I don't have to click anything, so it's not as big a deal. On the other hand, some sites require you to interact with flash content, and at this point, using windows is the only option. Let's hope that html 5 c

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Sarah Alawami
Cn't you just use the flash extention for safari or would not that help? On Mar 5, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > If you watch videos on the web, you should put Windows on your mac. There > are videos on the on-demand section of freespeech.org that I cannot play > since they use flash. T

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Zachary Kline
Speaking personally, I don't use flash enough to mind its inaccessibility with VO. Then again, its "accessibility" under Windows is pretty much a misnomer, I think. Best, Zack. On Mar 5, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > If you watch videos on the web, you should put Windows on your mac. Th

Re: The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Ryan Mann
If you watch videos on the web, you should put Windows on your mac. There are videos on the on-demand section of freespeech.org that I cannot play since they use flash. The problem is that on some videos, there is a play button that you have to activate. Since the button is a flash element, V

The inaccessibility of Flash with VO

2011-03-05 Thread Eric Brinkman
After reading the latest response in my Pitchfork thread, I'm curious how big of a problem people find the lack of Flash support with VO to be. I can applaud Jobs' anti-Flash position, since I've always found unlabeled buttons in Flash players to be annoying with Jaws. But there is so much flash