i wanted to know how do you  create folders for your applications using your 
b.o. key board commands?
thanks so much i really do appreciate it.
sincerely, chenelle

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On Apr 8, 2012, at 4:28 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> Itines downloaded album and can't find it [7 Updates]
> disregard previous question about folders [1 Update]
> Adding contacts to my mail program [2 Updates]
> off topic! [3 Updates]
> Libre and Open office [6 Updates]
> Workflow not Flowing [1 Update]
> A little help with sorting documents [1 Update]
> Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions [1 Update]
> Merging google calendar with iCal [1 Update]
> e-mail's on mac refusing to delete. [1 Update]
> Is XCode accessible? [1 Update]
>  Itines downloaded album and can't find it
> Jennifer Perdue <jlperd...@gmail.com> Apr 08 02:11PM -0500  
> 
> I hate Itunes, I can't figure it out at all! I'm trying to also delete things 
> that I have played from the internet and is stuck in the Itunes thing and so 
> I don't have any way of putting them in the search thing because they don't 
> all have the same names. 
>  
> When I use VO to navigate I can't fine the Itunes library and so I can't view 
> what's in it. 
>  
> Itunes is stupid and I'm sick of it.
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:42 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue <jlperd...@gmail.com> Apr 08 02:15PM -0500  
> 
> thanks, 
>  
> Can you tell me how to delete things that I have played from the internet 
> that have put themselves, unwanted, in my iTunes and not have to do it one by 
> one?
>  
> I hate Itunes!
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 7, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Lewis Alexander <freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com> Apr 08 08:18PM +0100  
> 
> hang on in there. don't give up on itunes just yet, you need to spend some 
> time getting used to the interface and the way it behaves. what OS are you 
> using? lion or snow leopard?
>  
> let me see if I can spend some time with you off list on this, bear with me 
> though, most of the week I'm snowed under getting ready for the trade show 
> and taking on a project I really want to get stuck in to.
>  
> cheers
>  
> lew
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 20:11, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Mark BurningHawk Baxter <markbaxte...@gmail.com> Apr 08 12:30PM -0700  
> 
> I'm sorry Brooks didn't work out for you As for the rest of your message, I 
> can't make much headway toward explaining it with the terms you use and the 
> negativity. I use Itunes and like it quite well, but maybe it's different in 
> Lion.
>  
>  
> • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
> • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
> • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
> • My home page:
> • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
>  
> 
> Jennifer Perdue <jlperd...@gmail.com> Apr 08 03:06PM -0500  
> 
> Hi Lu,
>  
> I'm using Lion and take your time. I just had to retire my guide dog sooner 
> than I thought and so I'm not in the best frame of mind today so you'll have 
> to be patient. 
>  
> for the rest of the list, I still haven't figured out how to reply off list 
> so sorry for the post.
>  
> Jenny and my retired guide Brooks
> On Apr 8, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Lewis Alexander <freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com> Apr 08 09:09PM +0100  
> 
> email me off list at freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com.
>  
> don't worry. I know what it's like on the guide dog side of things.
>  
> take care, keep smiling and remember, no matter what, there's always someone 
> there by your side.
>  
> lew
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 21:06, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Apr 08 04:28PM -0400  
> 
> Its not different. Its the same exact app that all Mac users are using 
> regardless of OS.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
>  disregard previous question about folders
> jason lefevers <jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com> Apr 08 01:54PM -0400  
> 
> hello again after some more playing around I have figured it out thank you 
> all very much. jason
>  
> 
>  Adding contacts to my mail program
> Beefcakes <beefca...@neo.rr.com> Apr 08 12:29PM -0400  
> 
> Hi Ricardo and everybody, happy Easter to everyone who celebrates., I 
> understand what you are saying, but I'm also talking about the ad contact 
> button I see in the mail program when you reply to someone. How does that 
> work I tried? I tried adding a contact by hitting the add add contact button, 
> but I don't know how that works it doesn't seem to work for me. Perhaps 
> someone can clearly up on this? Thanks so much have a great day, John
>  
> Cakes
>  
>  
> 
> jason lefevers <jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com> Apr 08 01:52PM -0400  
> 
> hello, when you tap on the add a contact button on your email it should bring 
> you to the list of contacts that you have on your phone. after that all you 
> have to do is select which person you want to send a message and select them 
> and it will bring you back to your email with there info in the to feild. 
> Note you have to have the contacts email address already put in there contact 
> info on your phone. Hope that helps. jason 
> On Apr 8, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Beefcakes wrote:
>  
>  
> 
>  off topic!
> craig J Dunlop <craigjdun...@gmail.com> Apr 08 10:14AM -0500  
> 
> using a iPhone 4 and 4S int the last couple of weeks something new for me has 
> been happening. when listing to a voicemail ore making a call voice over 
> won't stop talking. also when holding the phone up to my ear it is clicking 
> buttons. not sure why this is happening now. is this a com in issue?
> thanks.
>  
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> Apr 08 04:57PM +0100  
> 
> I think it's a bug as when I put my I phone 4S to my ear when on a call, the 
> thing starts talking occasionally. Report your issue to the Accessibility 
> team as I reported my issues to them and they are doing some testing.
>  
> Kawal.
>  
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Apr 08 01:23PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> not a bug. The voiceover focus is just on the call timer. Just move VO focus 
> of the time on to something else an you'll be fine.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
>  Libre and Open office
> Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> Apr 08 02:02AM -0700  
> 
> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 06:41:51PM +0100, Daniela Rubio wrote:
> > With lion it is just impossible.
>  
> This is a big show stopper indeed! For us Lion users, there is no
> really good powerful Office application available! I hear about Pages
> and Numbers but I understand they are rather limitted and table
> manipulation is practically impossible from what I have read here so I
> guess we gotta hammer on Oracle for OpenOffice or the developers of
> LibreOffice. MS is a dead horse so I'm never going to count on MS
> office being accessible on the mac.
>  
> Libreoffice actually works pretty good on Linux using the Orca screen
> reader but why broken in Lion? and Lion has been out for nine months
> now and still no a11y in these powerful full-functioned office
> applications. this is disturbing!
>  
> 
> Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> Apr 08 02:06AM -0700  
> 
> Oh and sorry for this second message but you know? I came across this
> thread with 45 messages covering 3 or 4 different subjects. Come on
> people, *PLEASE* don't hijack an existing thread to post on another
> subject. I am verry interested in thie subject of LibreOffice and
> OpenOffice but I was not particularly interested in the IOS update nor
> skype. The volume is so high on this list and I intentionally skip
> subjects I'm not interested in merely to save time. So don't use the
> reply key to start a new subject.
>  
> Thank you and I'll go back to plowing through my huge backlog here.
>  
> 
> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Apr 08 03:12PM +0200  
> 
> Hello Steve,
>  
> On 8 Apr 2012, at 11:02, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > I hear about Pages
> > and Numbers but I understand they are rather limitted and table
> > manipulation is practically impossible from what I have read here
>  
> I'm so tired of repeating myself, but I use Pages all the time in my capacity 
> as a professional translator. Any tables I find in a document I copy into 
> Numbers so that I keep the formatting correct. I manipulate the table in 
> Numbers, then copy it back into Pages. It doesn't take long and works fine.
>  
> Like any decent office suite, iWork takes time to learn and people just 
> haven't got the patience.
>  
> Yes, there are problems with the iWork suite. A group of VO commands doesn't 
> function such as looking for next colour change so I compensate for this by 
> using TextEdit to read my source document, but I have no trouble formatting 
> in Pages.
>  
> I do think it's about time Apple brought out a new version of iWork. The 
> current one is 3 years old and I'm afraid when they do, it's going to be more 
> like the IOS version but I'll just have to wait and see.
>  
> Anyway, to finish with iWork for the Mac, Keynote is also perfectly 
> manageable for a totally blind person.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
> 
> Gigi <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> Apr 08 08:38AM -0500  
> 
> Hi Anne.
> I agree that Pages and Numbers work just fine. In fact, I like them better 
> than Word and Excel. Numbers accepts Excel formulas, but in many cases, you 
> can use tyhe function of Insert plus Function. I love that. The other thing 
> is that VoiceOver is not as complicated as, say, Jaws to set up the talking 
> of the rows and columns.
>  
> I did, however, have trouble Pages on tables because, although I although I 
> got my columns of different widths to work within Pages, I found that if I 
> exported the file to Word, the width of the columns got changed. In my case, 
> I'm just not going to worry about it because I have a work around. If I had 
> been just using Pages, things would have been just fine, and maybe I just 
> don't know what I'm doing. I think my tables would have worked find also if I 
> had been printing them. 
>  
> Regards, 
> Gigi
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> 
> Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> Apr 08 09:54AM -0400  
> 
> I think it is also worth pointing out that Apple is still working on the next 
> release of the iWOrks suite and will no doubt address some of the 
> accessibility issues that do exist. Overall I would say the entire suite is 
> reasonably accessible and of course accessible is a little subjective as 
> well. And we cannot forget that some of the perceived accessibility issues 
> may relate to experience (or lack there of) in using the iWOrk applications. 
> Not a negative comment, simply a point to be considered.
>  
> On Apr 8, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Gigi wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Apr 08 01:19PM -0400  
> 
> This is true. But I think most will agree who have used word and pages, you 
> have to jump through many more hoops to get certain tasks done in pages. A 
> lot more 6 and 7 step processes. From an accessibility stand point,I think 
> iWorks just need to be streamlined, so one don't have to rely on so many work 
> arounds. For example, I asked if there was a way to jump to different 
> coordinates in Numbers. The answer is no. But Anne was gracious enough to 
> share a work around for the list that would allow you to find text written in 
> a cell. Here goes that work around.
>  
> "Here's how to find specific content,
> Turn cursor tracking off;
> Press Command-f and enter search term;
> Navigate down and interact with scroll area;
> Interact with table:
> Find desired result;
> Bring mouse to VO cursor and do a mouse click (VO-Shift-Space);
> Stop interacting with table and scroll area;
> Navigate up to next scroll area;
> Interact with scroll area, Layout area, and Layout item;
> You will be on the selected cell;
> Press VO-Shift-T to identify the cell." Now, to do exactly what I originally 
> was looking to do in numbers in excel with Jaws, you press control G, enter 
> coordinate, and press enter. This is what I mean by these work arounds need 
> to be streamlined into efficient, accessibility.
>  
> BTW, I'm not an office suite power users so, some of these observations might 
> be more relevant for those who are.
>  
> JMO. 
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
>  Workflow not Flowing
> Kevin Shaw <tvsound...@gmail.com> Apr 08 01:14PM -0400  
> 
> Here's a question about workflows.
>  
> I have a folder action set up on my downloads folder. 
>  
> when MP3 files beginning with specific words appear in the Downloads folder, 
> move it to a separate folder.
>  
> This has worked out well, however only some of the time. The files are all 
> prefixed the same. Anyone know why this happens and how to fix it?
>  
> Kevin
>  
> 
>  A little help with sorting documents
> jason lefevers <jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com> Apr 08 10:49AM -0400  
> 
> Hello , I am still new to the mac and can't figure out how to sort my 
> documents into specific forlders. So to start I am using a mac book pro with 
> lion. I can create a document fine, I have also created a folder on my 
> desktop where I want to put client notes. The folder on my desktop is called 
> unseen touch. I can put documents in this folder just find also . The thing 
> that I want to do and that i can't do is, In the main folder unseen touch I 
> would like to make many different folders for each of my clients and in each 
> of those folders put individual documents for that days notes. what I have 
> done so far is like I said is create the main folder and when I open it there 
> is a folder that I named jason as well as a document called jason lefevers 
> soap note. how do I get the soap note doc into the jason folder? I have tryed 
> copying the doc and then opening the jason folder then pasting the doc but it 
> just tells me that its already there and asks if I want to replace it , so I 
> say yes but Its not showing up in the jason folder , nothing shows up when I 
> open the jason folder. If anyone could walk me threw this process I would be 
> very happy. Thank you very much. Jason
>  
> 
>  Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions
> Daniela Rubio <mabuha...@gmail.com> Apr 08 01:18PM +0200  
> 
> Thank you very much for all your advice. I will write to Apple accessibility 
> and let's se what happens.
> Take care!
>  
> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T.
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>  
>  
> El 06/04/2012, a las 08:02, Cara Quinn escribió:
>  
>  
> 
>  Merging google calendar with iCal
> Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> Apr 08 03:37AM -0700  
> 
> Dunno about any help topics, but I recall syncing my iPod with Google
> Calendar via the iCloud settings.  I only messed around with it once
> several months ago but I could put an entry into calendar on the iPod
> and I verified its presence up on the website for Google calendar.  I
> haven't received any invites so not sure how that works.
>  
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 08:53:37AM -0400, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>  
> 
>  e-mail's on mac refusing to delete.
> Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> Apr 08 01:42AM -0700  
> 
> Jessica,
>  
> I sent you an answer earlier this evening on the other long mail
> thread that was going. One thing for sure, if you plan to read your
> mail on both your iPhone and on the mac, then by all means use IMAP
> and not POP3! Especially with gmail, my suggestions of creating
> special labels and filters on the gmail site cannot be done when using
> POP. Frankly, POP just plain sucks; it is too limitted in
> functionality. Only good thing about POP is you can fetch all your
> mail ans slirp it down to a single local box and process it further on
> that local machine. I don't see you doing this sort of thing. Change
> your gmail settings and your clients to use IMAP and leave your mail
> on the server. the clients will download copies of the mail as needed
> but then from theere you can move them to the Trash folder like you
> have been doing. In this case, the Trash folder is on gmail's servers
> and will be automatically purged from time to time and none of that
> trash or deleted mail will reside on your local devices.
>  
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 09:42:17PM -0500, Jessica Moss wrote:
>  
> 
>  Is XCode accessible?
> "Jonathan Chacón" <j.cha...@teleline.es> Apr 08 10:42AM +0200  
> 
> Hello,
>  
> I'm developing for iOS and OSX now.
>  
> Xcode is not my first IDE. I worked with Visual studio, Borland Delphi and 
> Eclipse before.
>  
> I started studying Objective-C first. After it i had to learn Cocoa structure 
> and design interfaces guidelines for Cocoa and Cocoa touch. All of this 
> information is in Xcode documentation area 
>  
> I think the best documentation is by Apple. You can find some ePubs in the 
> ibook store published by Apple.
>  
>  
> Regards
>  
> Jonathan Chacón
>  
> Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant
>  
> Accessibility should be a base of the project, it should not be a patch of 
> the product
>  
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> +34 679953948
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> 
> 
>  
> El 07/04/2012, a las 21:29, Paul Hunt escribió:
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