Hi,
I think Freedom Scientific's lawsuit against GW Micro is ridiculous.
However, I use JAWS most of the time when I use Windows because there
are a lot of things it offers that its competition doesn't. It's more
responsive than Window-Eyes when using a braille display in Word 2007,
or at
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> suddenly decide to use a Mac, it's not up to them. Just a little
> reality check.
> - Original Message -
> From: Marie Howarth
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: say it's not so apple
>
> F
there, some of whom are
>> using Windows in a work environment, it is not like they can
>> suddenly decide to use a Mac, it's not up to them. Just a little
>> reality check.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Marie Howarth
>> To: macvisionaries@goo
hem. Just a little
> reality check.
> - Original Message -
> From: Marie Howarth
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: say it's not so apple
>
> FS are desperate, and they're only going to get more desperate.
&
You are so right. And let's be fair, Windows is not that bad. It has become
more security concious over the years.
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: say it's not so apple
ginal Message -
From: Marie Howarth
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: say it's not so apple
FS are desperate, and they're only going to get more desperate.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Huh, goo
FS are desperate, and they're only going to get more desperate.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> Huh, good luck cause FS hasn't a leg to stand on in the GW Micro
> case and they couldn't say a word about Apple's implementation. FS
> must be pretty desperate.
> On Aug 25, 20
FS, with a JAWS market share of nearly 90% world wide and over 70% in
the US is definitely not desperate in any way. Lee Hamilton, FS CEO,
told me in his office when I was still a VP there that patents, even
pretty shaky ones, can be used to "drop boulders in the road maps of
any perceived
And, realistically, taking on GW-Micro is a bit different from taking
on Apple. FS may be desperate, but they're also just making
themselves look silly.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:31 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> Huh, good luck cause FS hasn't a leg to stand on in the GW Micro
> case and they could
Huh, good luck cause FS hasn't a leg to stand on in the GW Micro case
and they couldn't say a word about Apple's implementation. FS must be
pretty desperate.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:10 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
> I wonder if Apple's "Auto Web Spots" is different enough from the FS
> Placemar
the auto web spots though are unique as it intelligently works out the
"hot spots" of a page rather than a user manually having to find their
favourite spots and setting them up I think, anyways
On 25 Aug 2009, at 13:10, Chris Hofstader wrote:
> I wonder if Apple's "Auto Web Spots" is differe
I wonder if Apple's "Auto Web Spots" is different enough from the FS
Placemarkers feature as FS is currently suing GW Micro over a patent
infringement on this concept. There are a lot of problems with the FS
patent but judges aren't always of the nuances that make one idea
different from a
I don't even know why this topic is being brought up to be honest,
let's see what the New Snow Leopard offers us before passing judgement
or creating panic.
On 25/08/2009, at 7:36 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>
> There is just no reason for your fears. Apple would not radically
> change VO or l
There is just no reason for your fears. Apple would not radically
change VO or leave current users totally lost. Once everyone starts
getting their copies, I think you'll find your fears to be baseless
and in fact you'll be reaching for that credit card to place your
order. :)
On Aug 24,
it will all be customizable i think
Again i will wait a few months before upgrading what I havenow is
working fine
On 25 Aug 2009, at 01:06, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>
> Just because the feature is there, doesn't mean you have to use it.
> There will probably be an option for whether or not to autom
Wow, yeah I seriously doubt that Apple would force us to use
something. This reminds me of having the option of doing group or dom
mode. It'll probably be a setting in the internet area. But, this is
why I'm going to wait to by SL until I see what others say. I'm
terrified of it working totally di
Just because the feature is there, doesn't mean you have to use it.
There will probably be an option for whether or not to automatically
read the entire page, or you could just press v o a
On Aug 24, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
> one feature I just read they have in snow leopard
You don't have to hope I'm right.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
> thank God! I really really hope you're right. otherwise apple's gone
> down in my estimations.
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I'd second that.
Cheers,
Donna
On Aug 24, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I don't care whether VoiceOver starts reading pages when it loads; a
> press of Control would stop it if I didn't want it. But I do hope the
> changes mean that it will be possible to start reading a
Hi,
I assume that this feature just means that you can "Read all" on web pages
without the interruptions caused by by problematic HTML elements, and just
start and stop VoiceOver (by pressing the Control key).
One of the alternate web page reading schemes I use is to define a shortcut key
f
thank God! I really really hope you're right. otherwise apple's gone
down in my estimations.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 10:28 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>
> This is an option the user can select. The page can be automatically
> read when loaded, but again, you can disable this behavior if you
> prefer
There is probably a way to turn that off. At least I hope there is.
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On 24-Aug-09, at 4:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
> one feature I just read they have in snow leopard
This is an option the user can select. The page can be automatically
read when loaded, but again, you can disable this behavior if you
prefer not to have VOiceOver read the page for you automatically.
you, but this is a user selectable option. So, if you don't want to
have the page read to
Hi,
I don't care whether VoiceOver starts reading pages when it loads; a
press of Control would stop it if I didn't want it. But I do hope the
changes mean that it will be possible to start reading an article and
have voiceOver read the whole thing without my having to keep pressing
VO-Ri
I think it's a preference hopefully.
Justin
On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
> one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will
> now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this,
> the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it
The following is copied directly from the Apple site.Find information fast
with auto web spots.
Many web pages are filled with complex design elements or lack useful HTML
tags, making them difficult to convey through a screen reader. So Apple
invented new technologies to comprehend and interpret t
OK, here's an exerpt from apple's accessibility page with snow leopard.
"VoiceOver will begin reading an entire web page automatically"
http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/accessibility/
On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Dan wrote:
>
> Hello,
> From what I've read, you will be able to select the different
Hello,
From what I've read, you will be able to select the different
components of a site to read or scrol through.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
>
> one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will
> now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm h
one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will
now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this,
the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it too not what
it thinks I want it too. ugh. apple why listen to them?
sorry, but what do others th
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