Re: correct kernel source for RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2 ?

2008-01-02 Thread Neil MacLeod
Dave Neuer wrote: > Sorry, I don't see how what's preferable for users matters in this case at > all. > > Nokia is under legal obligation to distribute source w/ it's products > which contain GPL software or not distribute the software at all. > > Besides, there really is no excuse not to have

Re: Frequencies scaling with OS2008

2008-01-02 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 13:30 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Igor Stoppa wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 17:37 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > >> Igor Stoppa wrote: > >>> Having the audio path open, but no dsp tack loaded (arm audio) sets the > >>> clock to 400MHz. > >> Interesting, so, um

Re: correct kernel source for RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2 ?

2008-01-02 Thread Dave Neuer
On Jan 2, 2008 10:45 AM, inode0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 2, 2008 9:33 AM, Dave Neuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's a pretty cavalier attitude to a clear legal obligation, IMO. > > If the alternative is to not get new firmware released until later > when source is ready to g

Re: correct kernel source for RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2 ?

2008-01-02 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Neil Jerram wrote: > It also reveals a cultural or management failing at Nokia. Such steps > (making correct source available) should be properly planned into the > development process. Once you do that, you'll find that they don't > actually take any significant time. Yes it may be cultural dif

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Clarence Risher
On Jan 2, 2008 7:04 AM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As to bloatedness, there's an apt-hook installed on the device that > removes the extra docs when a package is installed (at least man & info > pages). Developer could also run something like Debian's localepurge. > Most of the pac

Re: correct kernel source for RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2 ?

2008-01-02 Thread Neil Jerram
Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > inode0 wrote: >> If the alternative is to not get new firmware released until later >> when source is ready to go at the same time I think getting firmware >> as soon as possible and showing some patience while waiting for the >> source is the preferab

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Damien Moore wrote: > On 1/2/08, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The maintenance wouldn't be a problem. Then those packages can come >> directly from Debian. Also, then trying to install a properly working >> replacement for a buggy/incomplete Busybox functionality doesn't me

Re: correct kernel source for RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2 ?

2008-01-02 Thread Frantisek Dufka
inode0 wrote: > If the alternative is to not get new firmware released until later > when source is ready to go at the same time I think getting firmware > as soon as possible and showing some patience while waiting for the > source is the preferable arrangement for most users. I suppose not > ever

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Damien Moore
On 1/2/08, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The maintenance wouldn't be a problem. Then those packages can come >directly from Debian. Also, then trying to install a properly working >replacement for a buggy/incomplete Busybox functionality doesn't mean >that one would need to remove fir

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Damien Moore wrote: > On 1/2/08, Kalle Valo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have to agree with Eero here. It's much more useful to have the >> original tools available instead of (too) simple busybox variants. > > what I'm suggesting would be an optional package that, if set up correctly,

Re: correct kernel source for RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2 ?

2008-01-02 Thread inode0
On Jan 2, 2008 9:33 AM, Dave Neuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 2, 2008 1:06 AM, Terje Bergström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Frantisek Dufka wrote: > > > some time ago I noticed there is osso63.1 version of kernel source here > > > http://repository.maemo.org/pool/chinook/free/source/k/ke

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Kalle Valo
"ext Damien Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1/2/08, Kalle Valo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have to agree with Eero here. It's much more useful to have the >> original tools available instead of (too) simple busybox variants. > > what I'm suggesting would be an optional package that, if

Re: correct kernel source for RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2 ?

2008-01-02 Thread Dave Neuer
On Jan 2, 2008 1:06 AM, Terje Bergström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frantisek Dufka wrote: > > some time ago I noticed there is osso63.1 version of kernel source here > > http://repository.maemo.org/pool/chinook/free/source/k/kernel-source-rx-34/ > > and thought it is source of kernel for latest 2

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Damien Moore
On 1/2/08, Kalle Valo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to agree with Eero here. It's much more useful to have the > original tools available instead of (too) simple busybox variants. what I'm suggesting would be an optional package that, if set up correctly, won't break anything (but will block

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Damien Moore
On 1/1/08, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What would happen with an order like this?... > # apt-get -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 install > > Maybe a broken system? I would think almost certainly a broken system. I think dpkg scripts depend on busybox tools being there, so they can't be

Re: Tcl/Tk and C++ for Chess

2008-01-02 Thread William Gordon Rutherdale
Thanks for the reply. The application might still be useful without virtual keyboard. I do not necessarily need the full database functionality of ChessDB, just the ability to enter and analyse positions. As long as I can select menu items with the pointer and drag pieces around, it could wor

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, I think it's good you raised this issue as it needs some discussion. Busybox is a base part of maemo, but we don't yet list it as an official SDK API although most packages need/use it when they are installed. ext Damien Moore wrote: > I'd like to bring up the busybox applet selection issue a

Re: SQLite bindings for Python2.5 in Chinook

2008-01-02 Thread Daniel Martin Yerga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 HI. On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:55:58 +1100 "Devraj Mukherjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am trying to find out if Python 2.5 has bindings for SQLite under > Chinook. apt-cache search reveals libsqlite3 but no python bindings. > Do th

Re: Frequencies scaling with OS2008

2008-01-02 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Igor Stoppa wrote: > On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 17:37 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: >> Igor Stoppa wrote: >>> Having the audio path open, but no dsp tack loaded (arm audio) sets the >>> clock to 400MHz. >> Interesting, so, umm, there is way to play audio from ARM side directly? > > Mixing is still

Re: python2.5 - unnecessary multiple processes forked

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Jayesh Salvi wrote: >> I'm not sure but think it is because of gnome-vfs. Don't know proper >> terminology but maybe each vfs 'provider' in the dialog (like mmc, phone >> etc.) starts new process or something like that. >> >> That sounds correct. I experimented with other dialogs that do n

Re: Dbus call to launch Image-Viewer?

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 04:52:14PM +0200, Tuomas Kulve wrote: >>> Is there a Dbus call to launch the Image-Viewer app with a parameter image >>> file? >> Not sure about dbus call, but check hildon_mime_open_file() in >> /usr/include/hildon-mime.h. >> >> At least i

Re: Frequencies scaling with OS2008

2008-01-02 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 17:37 +0100, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Igor Stoppa wrote: > > Having the audio path open, but no dsp tack loaded (arm audio) sets the > > clock to 400MHz. > > Interesting, so, umm, there is way to play audio from ARM side directly? Mixing is still happening on DSP. > W

Re: busybox applet selection (again)

2008-01-02 Thread Kalle Valo
"ext Damien Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=989 > > the bug was marked WONTFIX > > Eero Tamminen's resolution was to not add any additional applets to > BusyBox because in his opinion those needs can best be met by creating > full versions of the tools i

Re: python2.5 - unnecessary multiple processes forked

2008-01-02 Thread Kalle Valo
"ext Frantisek Dufka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I can't >> imagine any valid reason for gtk/hildon to fork more processes just to >> show a GUI dialog. Does anyone know? > > I'm not sure but think it is because of gnome-vfs. Don't know proper > terminology but maybe each vfs 'provider' in