Re: sdk installation trouble

2009-05-06 Thread Frank Banul
Got it! After manually adding deb http://scratchbox.org/debian/ maemo5-sdk main to /etc/apt/sources.list and running: sudo apt-get remove scratchbox-devkit-debian sudo apt-get install scratchbox-devkit-debian sudo apt-get remove scratchbox-devkit-perl sudo apt-get install scratchbox-devkit-perl

Re: sdk installation trouble

2009-05-06 Thread Frank Banul
The manual instructions don't yield better luck but do give a slightly different error that may be informative to someone more knowledgeable than I. thanks, Frank u...@ubuntu704desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install scratchbox-core scratchbox-libs scratchbox-devkit-qemu scratchbox-devkit-debian scratchb

Re: sdk installation trouble

2009-05-06 Thread Frank Banul
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Frank Banul wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Valerio Valerio wrote: >> This should be related to the bug that Andre point in the previous >> mail, the strange thing is that scratchbox assume that you have debian >> devkit installed: 'scratchbox-devkit-debia

Re: QA from extras-devel to extras-testing

2009-05-06 Thread Murray Cumming
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 19:09 +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: > We have always known in the back of our minds that we should separate > packaging from upstream development, but it was always too much trouble > without sufficient gain if you are always making 'upstream' and package > releases at the same

Re: Identifying free/non-free apps (was Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?)

2009-05-06 Thread Attila Csipa
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 18:35:26 Jeremiah Foster wrote: > > whether it's free or non-free. Do you mind filing an enhancement > > request? > I am happy to do this if you don't want to Attila. Already did :) https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4477 , feel free to correct/comment. > The distinc

Re: Identifying free/non-free apps (was Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?)

2009-05-06 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On May 6, 2009, at 17:47, Quim Gil wrote: > Hi, > > ext Attila Csipa wrote: > >> To make things worse, the >> application manager does not display the repository, much less the >> component >> an application belongs to. > > Indeed, more information could be probably put in the "Application > de

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On May 6, 2009, at 17:58, Marius Vollmer wrote: > ext Jeremiah Foster writes: > >> On May 6, 2009, at 12:33, Henrik Hedberg wrote: >>> >>> This is a very important question, and even if some members of the >>> maemo.org community may be hard core open source software >> >> I am one of those I'

Re: QA from extras-devel to extras-testing

2009-05-06 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Murray Cumming writes: >> This separation of code and packaging (.diff.gz and .orig.tar.gz.) is >> IMO extremely important for Maemo and should be actively encouraged >> by both Nokia and the community processes. Downstream projects will >> thank us for it, i imagine > > Yes, I wish that Nok

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Jeremiah Foster writes: > On May 6, 2009, at 12:33, Henrik Hedberg wrote: >> >>This is a very important question, and even if some members of the >> maemo.org community may be hard core open source software > > I am one of those I'm afraid. Don't be afraid, it's OK. :-) I am even worse:

Identifying free/non-free apps (was Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?)

2009-05-06 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, ext Attila Csipa wrote: > Just arrived... out of order mail is so much fun :) > > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 14:37:18 you wrote: >>> non-free software, but rather to be in the clear that people *know* which >>> software is, and which isn't free and then decide for themselves if they >>> want it

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread ed
> Just arrived... out of order mail is so much fun :) > > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 14:37:18 you wrote: >> > non-free software, but rather to be in the clear that people *know* >> which >> > software is, and which isn't free and then decide for themselves if >> they >> > want it or not. In the spiri

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Attila Csipa
Just arrived... out of order mail is so much fun :) On Wednesday 06 May 2009 14:37:18 you wrote: > > non-free software, but rather to be in the clear that people *know* which > > software is, and which isn't free and then decide for themselves if they > > want it or not. In the spirit of recalling

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Attila Csipa
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 14:46:55 Jeremiah Foster wrote: > > Universe > > http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/diablo/free/ > > > > Multiverse > > http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/diablo/non-free/ > > Hmmm. This looks interesting, I think this kind of layout might make a > lot of sense.

Re: sdk installation trouble

2009-05-06 Thread Frank Banul
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Valerio Valerio wrote: > This should be related to the bug that Andre point in the previous > mail, the strange thing is that scratchbox assume that you have debian > devkit installed: 'scratchbox-devkit-debian is already the newest > version'. So should be a differ

Re: sdk installation trouble

2009-05-06 Thread Valerio Valerio
Hello, On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Frank Banul wrote: > I did try that but will do so again. The error is not related to the issue that I assumed, sorry :(. I don't read correctly your output :) This should be related to the bug that Andre point in the previous mail, the strange thing is th

Re: sdk installation trouble

2009-05-06 Thread Frank Banul
Yes, that is the bug I found. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 06.05.2009, 08:11 -0500 schrieb Frank Banul: > > I'm trying to install the Maemo 5 SDK. Any ideas on the following > > error? The googling I did led to a maemo.org bug marked WORKSFORME. :( > > h

Re: sdk installation trouble

2009-05-06 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 06.05.2009, 08:11 -0500 schrieb Frank Banul: > I'm trying to install the Maemo 5 SDK. Any ideas on the following > error? The googling I did led to a maemo.org bug marked WORKSFORME. :( https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1830 I assume? andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugma

Re: sdk installation trouble

2009-05-06 Thread Valerio Valerio
Hello, On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Frank Banul wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm trying to install the Maemo 5 SDK. Any ideas on the following error? The > googling I did led to a maemo.org bug marked WORKSFORME. :( Try to execute: $ /scratchbox/login Log out scratchbox (ctrl+d or type 'exit') and ex

sdk installation trouble

2009-05-06 Thread Frank Banul
Hi All, I'm trying to install the Maemo 5 SDK. Any ideas on the following error? The googling I did led to a maemo.org bug marked WORKSFORME. :( thanks, Frank u...@ubuntu704desktop:~$ sudo /home/user/maemo-scratchbox-install_5.0beta.sh-u user sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu704desktop This sc

Re: Installing pyqt on scratchbox

2009-05-06 Thread daniel wilms
Hi, indeed, the problem is related to some dependency issues. I reported it to the pyqt guys and it will be solved quite soon. This problem is general and not caused by local environment issues as Jey Han Lau wrote. Cheers Daniel ___ maemo-developers

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On May 6, 2009, at 14:37, Quim Gil wrote: > > > ext Attila Csipa wrote: >> I think one of the key issues is not if it is possible to install >> non-free >> software, but rather to be in the clear that people *know* which >> software is, >> and which isn't free and then decide for themselves i

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On May 6, 2009, at 14:10, Quim Gil wrote: - Don't bring conflicts in dependencies. >> >> How do we know they are not violating the GPL if they rely on GPL'd >> libraries but don't ship their source? Those 'dependencies' may >> require them to ship the source, that is a major conflict. > > Th

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Quim Gil
ext Attila Csipa wrote: > I think one of the key issues is not if it is possible to install non-free > software, but rather to be in the clear that people *know* which software is, > and which isn't free and then decide for themselves if they want it or not. > In the spirit of recalling the hi

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, ext Jeremiah Foster wrote: >>the reality is that there >> are >> even more opportunities to get very good software for the devices if >> we >> allow also non-free software to be a part of our community supported >> extras repository. > > Do you have some examples? I am sure you are right,

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On May 6, 2009, at 12:59, Attila Csipa wrote: > On Wednesday 06 May 2009 12:33:21 Henrik Hedberg wrote: >>This is a very important question, and even if some members of the >> maemo.org community may be hard core open source software >> enthusiastic >> using only free software in their devi

Re: no suitable windowing system found, exiting.

2009-05-06 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 03:57 +0200, ext jiangchuang wrote: > Hi,everyone: > I would like to run OpenOffice.org 3.0 on N800. I copied > OpenOffice.org into the removable memory sd card, and run > the ./soffice command in the terminal. I get the following error > messages: > no suitable w

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Attila Csipa
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 12:33:21 Henrik Hedberg wrote: > This is a very important question, and even if some members of the > maemo.org community may be hard core open source software enthusiastic > using only free software in their devices, the reality is that there are > even more opportunit

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On May 6, 2009, at 12:33, Henrik Hedberg wrote: > Quim Gil wrote: > >> In the "QA from extras-devel to extras-testing" thread we are >> discussing >> a community quality process that relies heavily on the fact that the >> source code of an application and its dependencies is available. But >> h

Re: ... and QA of closed source applications?

2009-05-06 Thread Henrik Hedberg
Quim Gil wrote: > In the "QA from extras-devel to extras-testing" thread we are discussing > a community quality process that relies heavily on the fact that the > source code of an application and its dependencies is available. But > happens with the closed source applications? This is a ve