Re: How to use extras-testing correctly?

2009-09-23 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laoide
And you're lucky if you get votes ! I can imagine nobody cares about pwsafe (except 2 people) but does that mean that if you get no vote in extras-testing you'd better forget about your app and start something new ? I know you can't force people to vote or test ... But it means that if an app

Community widgets for Fremantle

2009-09-23 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hi! There are some important widgets which are deprecated without a replacement in Fremantle. Those widgets are still available, but they are not fully finger-friendly or don't look good. Developers are expected to implement those widgets by them selfs which could lead us to a situation where we

Re: How to use extras-testing correctly?

2009-09-23 Thread Henrik Hedberg
Extras-testing QA is not working as it is implemented now! There are two main issues: * Comments are stored into a wrong place. Those belong to Bugzilla! It is double effort for a developer to track two different places or to transfer reports into bug tracking system manually. * Developers

Re: How to use extras-testing correctly?

2009-09-23 Thread Quim Gil
ext Graham Cobb wrote: > By all means add a comment if you are unhappy with the UI but it > should get a +1 as long as it doesn't conflict with the requirements. > Ideally every -1 should require a comment saying which of the QA > requirements is violated. Agreed. And even better, a link to a b

Re: [Fremantle]: Python Home Plugins Path

2009-09-23 Thread Brent Chiodo
Thanks for the information. On 9/23/09, Bruno Araujo wrote: > Hi, > > >> The reason I'm slightly skeptical is because my >> applet is working fine in my scratchbox in the correct path >> (/usr/lib/hildon-home/). >> >> > Probably you have an outdated version of python-hildondesktop, because the >

Re: How to use extras-testing correctly?

2009-09-23 Thread Graham Cobb
My long reply was lost when my N900 crashed while writing it.  So this will have to do. I strongly disagree. Testers should be testing against the agreed requirements only. The subjective element should be eliminated as much as possible - we are using human testers because it is impossible to

Re: [Fremantle]: Python Home Plugins Path

2009-09-23 Thread Bruno Araujo
Hi, > The reason I'm slightly skeptical is because my > applet is working fine in my scratchbox in the correct path > (/usr/lib/hildon-home/). > > Probably you have an outdated version of python-hildondesktop, because the search path for home widgets have changed to /usr/lib/hildon-desktop. I ins

[Fremantle]: Python Home Plugins Path

2009-09-23 Thread Brent Chiodo
I recently created in Python a Home Plugin for Fremantle and promoted it to extras-testing. The feedback I received on it is that it doesn't show up on the Desktop. Benoît HERVIER thought that it might be because: "the launcher module doesn't use the right path to search the home applet, but use i

Re: New apps for fremantle with Qt?

2009-09-23 Thread Kate Alhola
ext Ville M. Vainio wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kate Alhola wrote: > > >> If you just talk about "vanilla" application, it just takes your GTK+ >> Style and renders >> widgets using that style. Using new special features needs to some >> change to your >> code and because there ar

Re: what if...

2009-09-23 Thread Benoît HERVIER
Hum ... so i ll be able to play with it ... 2009/9/23 Ville M. Vainio : > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:27 PM, gary liquid wrote: > >>> Sounds like you want to use Python, with few select extensions in C/C++ >>> ;-). >> >> >> probably, but performance for many things in python limits it. >> liqbase i

Re: New apps for fremantle with Qt?

2009-09-23 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Kate Alhola wrote: > If you just talk about "vanilla" application, it just takes your GTK+ > Style and renders > widgets using that style. Using new special features needs to some > change to your > code and because there are not equivalent counterparts in Diablo,

Re: New apps for fremantle with Qt?

2009-09-23 Thread Kate Alhola
ext Attila Csipa wrote: > On Wednesday 23 September 2009 12:26:01 Ville M. Vainio wrote: > >> it would be nice if the Qt apps written for Fremantle would look >> identical in Diablo - i.e. implement it so that they would use >> "fremantle style" in Diablo. I don't think people care as much about

Re: New apps for fremantle with Qt?

2009-09-23 Thread Attila Csipa
On Wednesday 23 September 2009 13:10:43 you wrote: > switching to Mer). The twist here is that you can use the same > codebase for both Diablo and Fremantle, and expect the app to work the > same. Yes, I understand that, it's just there area few things that are not applicable or different on Dia

Re: New apps for fremantle with Qt?

2009-09-23 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Attila Csipa wrote: >> it would be nice if the Qt apps written for Fremantle would look >> identical in Diablo - i.e. implement it so that they would use >> "fremantle style" in Diablo. I don't think people care as much about >> "retaining a consistent feel", as t

Re: New apps for fremantle with Qt?

2009-09-23 Thread Attila Csipa
On Wednesday 23 September 2009 12:26:01 Ville M. Vainio wrote: > it would be nice if the Qt apps written for Fremantle would look > identical in Diablo - i.e. implement it so that they would use > "fremantle style" in Diablo. I don't think people care as much about > "retaining a consistent feel",

Re: what if...

2009-09-23 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:27 PM, gary liquid wrote: >> Sounds like you want to use Python, with few select extensions in C/C++ >> ;-). > > > probably, but performance for many things in python limits it. > liqbase is optimized to hell and runs amazingly fast even on n8x0 hardware Indeed (I've tr

Re: How to use extras-testing correctly?

2009-09-23 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Mittwoch, den 23.09.2009, 11:07 +0100 schrieb Andrew Flegg: > It's easy to find problems, but our basic QA procedure started off as > "installs cleanly, uninstalls cleanly, doesn't waste battery, has > human readable description, has nice icons" and now "uses /opt and > doesn't waste disk space

Re: New apps for fremantle with Qt?

2009-09-23 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Kate Alhola wrote: > Because there has been lot of discussion about these some widgets that > do not yet have 1 to 1 counterpart in current Maemo Qt, we are going to have > solution > this question soon. To return a bit to this old discussion - it would be nice i

Re: what if...

2009-09-23 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:47 AM, gary liquid wrote: > what if those principles and methods and optimizations and streamlined > development efforts were transfered and done in a qt context? > > that is: > > finding a streamlined way to continue the live development on the device as > I currently d

Re: How to use extras-testing correctly?

2009-09-23 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 14:22, Graham Cobb wrote: > > The bottom line is that we need to try to use the process and see > how well it works. I've got a concern on the other side. There still seems to be murkiness about what our processes are here - and these will evolve through time, as you say.