Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-10 Thread Frédéric Crozat
Le samedi 10 mars 2007 à 14:50 +, Neil MacLeod a écrit : > Siarhei Siamashka wrote: > > That's why I asked this question in the mailing list. I hope that somebody > > in > > a position to make such decision is reading it. Nokia did some beta > > releases > > of OS2006 before, so maybe it cou

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-10 Thread Zoran Kolic
> It's a kernel and large X server update. Unfortunately I'm not in a > position to be able to release them to the public. I'm not exactly interested for this topic, but kernel and x _are_ public. If you say details, people could easily fix the problem, knowledge and good will included.

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-10 Thread Neil MacLeod
Siarhei Siamashka wrote: That's why I asked this question in the mailing list. I hope that somebody in a position to make such decision is reading it. Nokia did some beta releases of OS2006 before, so maybe it could be possible to continue this tradition? I asked the same question - "...any ch

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-10 Thread Ville Reijonen
Playback resolution is the problem and the hardware limitations will not allow us to use the N800 screen as it is. That's a pity, alhtough I understand the reasons for these limitations. In fact the screen _is_ used in its full resolution. Well sort of. The pixel doubling feature on N770 (Eps

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-10 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
On Saturday 10 March 2007 01:57, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 10:34:52PM +0200, ext Siarhei Siamashka wrote: > > On Friday 09 March 2007 12:20, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > Not really. The next firmware release has gone to great lengths to > > > improve video performance by doing sc

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread MoRpHeUz
Hi - regarding the subject: For those interested in watching live-stuff on your N800 we are working on a project called GMyth (http://gmyth.sf.net). With it you are able to do a lot of MythTV stuff at your N770/800. Right now you are able to watch live tv on your N800 if you have an analog tv

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Neil MacLeod
Daniel Stone wrote: Thanks, that's a very good news. We all are looking forward for this firmware update. By the way, is it possible to get an early access to the updated kernels in the future for the purpose of testing and ensuring compatibility? It's a kernel and large X server update. Unfor

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 10:34:52PM +0200, ext Siarhei Siamashka wrote: > On Friday 09 March 2007 12:20, Daniel Stone wrote: > > Not really. The next firmware release has gone to great lengths to > > improve video performance by doing scaling on the LCD controller, as > > well as the colourspace co

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
On Friday 09 March 2007 12:20, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 09:45:03AM +0100, ext Hanno Zulla wrote: > > > Right now, the biggest bottleneck in video decoding is RFBI bandwidth > > > (i.e. the bus between OMAP and the LCD controller we use), being too > > > slow to push more than

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Hanno Zulla wrote: Playback resolution is the problem and the hardware limitations will not allow us to use the N800 screen as it is. That's a pity, alhtough I understand the reasons for these limitations. In fact the screen _is_ used in its full resolution. Well sort of. The pixel doubling f

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Hanno Zulla
Hi, > I'd rather transcode once into a format more suitable for portable > devices than waste all my Flash storing the same single uncompressed DVD > film/movie. > > It's about balance, and having the powerful desktop CPU convert the film > as a one-off exercise is surely a better option than exp

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Neil MacLeod
Hanno Zulla wrote: Hi, But MPEG4 needs more CPU power AND you have to transcode the existing material we already have on DVD or DVB before you can watch it. It's kind of pointless to waste desktop CPU power to transcode existing material if you could watch it in original form. I'd rather trans

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Hanno Zulla
Hi, > I think the format question is a red herring here. Indeed. > What we really want is to fully utilize the display quality when > watching video, and it sounds like that's a request that Nokia has > heard. They're doing what they can in terms of optimization, and I'm > sure it will play int

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Mike Lococo
Klaus Rotter wrote: Hanno Zulla wrote: Video playback is my biggest wish for improvement on the N800. See http://www.hanno.de/blog/2007/02/16/video-on-n800/ for some comparisons of video playback on the N800 as it is today and how it could be on an 800x480 screen. Why do you want DVD MPEG2 Pla

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Hanno Zulla
Hi, Klaus Rotter schrieb: > Hanno Zulla wrote: >> Video playback is my biggest wish for improvement on the N800. See >> http://www.hanno.de/blog/2007/02/16/video-on-n800/ for some comparisons >> of video playback on the N800 as it is today and how it could be on an >> 800x480 screen. > > Why do y

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Klaus Rotter
Hanno Zulla wrote: Video playback is my biggest wish for improvement on the N800. See http://www.hanno.de/blog/2007/02/16/video-on-n800/ for some comparisons of video playback on the N800 as it is today and how it could be on an 800x480 screen. Why do you want DVD MPEG2 Playback? MPEG2 is IMHO

Re: DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 09:45:03AM +0100, ext Hanno Zulla wrote: > > Right now, the biggest bottleneck in video decoding is RFBI bandwidth > > (i.e. the bus between OMAP and the LCD controller we use), being too > > slow to push more than ~15fps through at 800x480. Beefing up the > > processor-sid

DVD content playback possible or not? Re: Wishlist (was:Re: N800 and USB host mode)

2007-03-09 Thread Hanno Zulla
Hi, >> I'd like support for the IVA (Imaging Video Accelerator) device to be >> implemented, or at least for some more information to be made available if >> Nokia >> can't justify the time. >> >> Rationale: >> >> This hardware is supposed to be able to improve large image display and can >> VG