Andrew Flegg wrote:
> and it opened very quickly in less
> than 2 seconds.
Yes, expectations differ widely :-) For me anything above 1 second is
slow and needs improvement. Anything above .5 second is bearable but not
ideal. This is bad habit from PalmOS and old days when computers were
fast :
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/3/11, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > So it appears that some people's perception of startup slowness
> > problems do not match reality.
>
> Andrew seemed to count 4-5 seconds (dunno if he used a stopwat
2008/3/11, Andrew Flegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 3) Have a Glade XML file specified in the .desktop file which will be
> loaded, instantiated and displayed by Hildon Desktop whilst the app
> loads. Some mechanism should then be determined to pass that
> instantiated window to the app
2008/3/11, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Heh, well if you don't care about marketing your
> > product/program/platform to its users, you definitely shouldn't follow
> > Apple.
>
> Please don't put words in
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> To be clear, I'm not an Apple fanboy. I do not like their restrictive
> way of doing things. But I do acknowledge their expertise in the HCI
> field, and I think I understand how they manage to produce the
> compellin
I do agree with Michael Wiktowy.
I did the check too and my applications show a barebone of their UI in less
than 3s.
Indeed, I have never noticed and slowness in applications startup since I've
switched to OS2008.
I am not an UI expert (even tho I would like to be), but, from an user point
of vie
Michael Wiktowy wrote:
> Well, I have news for you ... that <3s standard for showing a basic UI
> has already been met (with the N800 and N810 running OS2008 at least).
Actually OS2007 is faster here with my N800 in this regard. When
launched repeatedly, both Application Manager and File Mananger
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heh, well if you don't care about marketing your
> product/program/platform to its users, you definitely shouldn't follow
> Apple.
Please don't put words in my mouth.
How exactly does putting an engineering-centric view
Andrew Flegg wrote:
> Reading the recently released iPhone SDK's Human Interface Guidelines
> document[1], I came across an interesting idea: every application has
> a launch image configured which is immediately displayed on launch to
> improve the user experience.
> ...
> I think this is a concep
mike saunby wrote:
>
> Here's a thought that might be of some use.
>
> Users probably don't care too much if it takes a little longer for
> programs to terminate. So how about grabbing a screen-shot on exit
> and caching it for the next time the application starts, rather like
> caching web p
2008/3/10, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2008/3/9, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > It is an interesting idea but I can see how some might be ambivalent
> > > to Apple's implementation. Spendi
Here's a thought that might be of some use.
Users probably don't care too much if it takes a little longer for programs
to terminate. So how about grabbing a screen-shot on exit and caching it
for the next time the application starts, rather like caching web pages?
Michael
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When I and tired of waiting it is usually when launching gmail.
> the think I do in between is to start a second web-browser. How would that
> look
> with the "startup"picks?
Well the idea (not sure how real it is) was that doing the snapshot
would be part of applicati
Hi
I would love to have thumbnails/icons for apps, just so you can make a
nicer launcher.
I dislike the "iphone" like words because it makes it look like they
own the feature.
When I and tired of waiting it is usually when launching gmail.
the think I do in between is to start a second web-browse
Mika Yrjölä wrote:
> Then there is also the question of theming; even if the application
> would have separate skeleton startup images for several themes (eating
> the precious storage space), consistency still goes out of the window
> if user installs a new, probably different-looking theme.
One
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/3/9, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > It is an interesting idea but I can see how some might be ambivalent
> > to Apple's implementation. Spending more resources (storage space for
> > bogus images, non-z
2008/3/9, Michael Wiktowy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> It is an interesting idea but I can see how some might be ambivalent
> to Apple's implementation. Spending more resources (storage space for
> bogus images, non-zero CPU time and battery life) and *actually*
> slowing application launch just to gi
On 08/03/2008, Andrew Flegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Reading the recently released iPhone SDK's Human Interface Guidelines
> document[1], I came across an interesting idea: every application has
> a launch image configured which is immediately displayed on launch to
> improve the us
On 3/8/08, Andrew Flegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At the moment, much of the reaction[1] has been on the negative side
> of ambivalent - but I'm hoping to put together a mockup tomorrow
> demonstrating it in action (entirely faked). That should give us all
> an idea of how well it might wo
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Andrew Flegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I'd imagine this in addition to the bubble, to add an illusion of
> starting the app quicker.
>
> It'd have to be implemented at the dbus/Hildon Desktop/Task Navigator
> level - rather than each app - as the app in q
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Ryan Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For notification of launch, there is already the tag/notification bubble
> that pops up in the corner. If you wanted to implement this, you'd
> probably either have to modify the launcher (dbus?) or each application.
Yes,
For notification of launch, there is already the tag/notification bubble
that pops up in the corner. If you wanted to implement this, you'd
probably either have to modify the launcher (dbus?) or each application.
Ryan
Andrew Flegg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Reading the recently released iPhone SDK's Hum
Hi,
Reading the recently released iPhone SDK's Human Interface Guidelines
document[1], I came across an interesting idea: every application has
a launch image configured which is immediately displayed on launch to
improve the user experience.
The theory goes that because the user sees something w
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