Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-03 Thread sebastian maemo
Maybe it's already tere. But it's not self-contained, and it took me a non-sleeping week to get it ready. I think it's inadmissible for an end user (though intermediate level). I even think it should be completely automated... 2007/2/3, Paul Klapperich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: This is already on th

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-03 Thread Jon Smirl
On 2/3/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jon Smirl wrote: > On 2/1/07, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your own time isn't free, I'd just buy a 2GB card instead spending > five or six hours trying to merge two 512MB ones. > I'm not sure the size of the cards really matters thoug

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-03 Thread Jon Smirl
On 2/1/07, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Most people won't bother with all this work and limitations and just buy 2GB or 4GB cards. It is a lot of work to get dm/lvm working to merge two 512MB cards. 2GB cards are really getting cheap. I just noticed this place selling 2GB cards for $18.

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-03 Thread Paul Klapperich
This is already on the wiki[1] and ITT forums. This is not new. I would recommend cleaning up the wiki page if you feel it is unclear. Alternative2 is what you did. [1] http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowTo_BootRootFSFromMMC --Paul On 2/2/07, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I've bee

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi, I've been playing around Fanoush's idea and MUST say it is a pretty cool solution. Things are improving a lot. Before giving definitive results I want to play with all weekend, but I can just say that performance speed has increased substantially. I would say that it's almost doubled (seriousl

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Jon Smirl
On 2/2/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Matan Ziv-Av wrote: > insmod unionfs.ko > mount -t unionfs -o dirs=/media/mmc1/usr=rw:/usr=ro unionfs /usr > > to startup scripts (early enough) before anything opens a file for writing under > /usr. > > See here: > > http://www.linux-live.org/u

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Jon Smirl
On 2/2/07, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/2/2, Zoran Kolic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > My device is just now reflashed. > > Cool! Have you started to breath again? Not exactly. I think I've broken my mmc with so much usb up and down :( It sometimes crashes. But then I format

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread sebastian maemo
2007/2/2, Zoran Kolic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My device is just now reflashed. Cool! Have you started to breath again? Not exactly. I think I've broken my mmc with so much usb up and down :( It sometimes crashes. But then I format it again (the VFAT part) and it seems to work till crashes ag

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 04:25:30PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: > > And now that I've learned all that much, I created the wrong symlinks: I > > cp'ed /usr to the MMC, and then made the wrong link: ln -s /media/mmc2/usr > > /usr. Yes, now I know it should be the reverse way, but do not understand > >

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 03:12:04PM +0100, sebastian maemo wrote: > Thank you, Marious. That encourages me a lot. Because now I've copied the > whole system "a la Fanoush", that is: via GNU tar. So I hope there's not > going be any problem of preserved links or similar details. Yes, tar is very goo

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Klapperich
On 2/2/07, Marius Gedminas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 06:29:22AM +0100, sebastian maemo wrote: > For don't-know-what-reason Nokia failed to make this feature available on > his 770. They just let me create a 64M swap file that helps, but not that > much. I would guess t

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Jon Smirl wrote: Maybe future secondary apps could be built to install into /opt instead of /usr and then /opt get added to the search path. That would make it much easier to get the apps onto the mmc card. You would symlink /opt to the mmc card and then install the app. Some files needs to be

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Jon Smirl
On 2/2/07, sebastian maemo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now the problem is to mount the mmc2 before the system needs it. I've mounted at minircS, just before the line that says mount_devpts (line number 98). Would it suffice? How do I know? I've tried to put the line much above, but the script didn

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread sebastian maemo
Thank you, Marious. That encourages me a lot. Because now I've copied the whole system "a la Fanoush", that is: via GNU tar. So I hope there's not going be any problem of preserved links or similar details. Now I was blocked because I didn't have got a usable initfs-flasher in order to dual-boot.

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Frantisek Dufka
sebastian maemo wrote: But it still doesn't work. Why? Just because I've got IT2006.49-2 and Fran's initfs-flasher is updated just to prior version (39-14) or next version (N800). I had no time to upgrade my N700 yet. Send me /mnt/initfs/linuxrc file privately. Or try to apply https://garag

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 06:29:22AM +0100, sebastian maemo wrote: > When I bought N80 phone, I found a very useful and logic feature: when you > install a new app, the application manager asks you whether you want it > installed over your tiny phone memory, or over your large GB memory card. > > Fo

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi Jakub: Maybe for N800, but I've bought N770 and hope last a couple of years (two as a minimum). Nevertheless I'm trying. I've just played with the copy-your-existing-filesystem thing. I think I've succeeded copying my entire system to the ext2 partition in my mmc. Cool. But it still doesn't

RE: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
>Hi Fran: > > I'll try that: booting from the card. I'll read and study a bit. > What I don't understand is why something so logically needed (it is featured > in all new brand Nokia phones) is not available as default. IIRC this was looked into seriously and decided to not do it. So this

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi Fran: I'll try that: booting from the card. I'll read and study a bit. What I don't understand is why something so logically needed (it is featured in all new brand Nokia phones) is not available as default. Just about the comparison with N80: your surprise makes me think you aren't aware of

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Frantisek Dufka
sebastian maemo wrote: Since it is IMPOSSIBLE (unless you tell me how) to install an application in MMC. I thought I just gave a hint how to do that in my last mail :-) True that internal flash won't be used at all when booting from the card but you can consider this being an advantage. You

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laoide
I suppose you could just boot from MMC and then install everything on it ! I don't see how you can compare a N80 and the 770 ??? Fred sebastian maemo a écrit : Hi Fran: I've got 1GB card. 128MB is the internal memory of my 770. And that is ALL I've got to install applications. Since it is IM

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread sebastian maemo
Hi Fran: I've got 1GB card. 128MB is the internal memory of my 770. And that is ALL I've got to install applications. Since it is IMPOSSIBLE (unless you tell me how) to install an application in MMC. So easy to understand... I think I'm going to resell my 770. I'm fed up with struggling with it

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-02 Thread Frantisek Dufka
sebastian maemo wrote: Don't you get pretty soon the no-more-free-memory advertisement after installing octave and abiword? Wouldn't you like to install anything you like and more? http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#initfs http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowTo_GetStartedWithSardine You need bigger card t

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-01 Thread sebastian maemo
Please Jon, expand it a bit, por favor. I've just bricked my device and reflahed it again trying to symlink "anyway I need". Maybe it's not a question for developers-list, but Nokia didn't thought that 128M wouldn't suffice me enough to install all apps I'd like for my device. When I bought N80

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Span filesystem across both SD cards?

2007-02-01 Thread Jon Smirl
On 2/1/07, Neil MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jon Smirl wrote: > The ability already exists in Linux. You need to turn on device mapper > in your kernel and then use LVM2 or EVMS. > Great! :) Unfortunately that's way over my head :) When you say "turn on" device mapper in the kernel, do y