you have probably noticed:
http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1191328183.html
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will this one wipe all the data?
Piotr Zagorowski wrote:
you have probably noticed:
http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1191328183.html
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Kemal Hadimli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exciting stuff! A locked screen with unlocked keys is one of the
things I've always wanted for music playback. Of course if wouldn't be
the same batt usage as the softpoweroff mode (as softpoweroff also
disables keyboard interrupts) but it would be
If you are asking about:
This new release (version number 4.2007.38-2) provides a software fix for a
bug http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204 which may have appeared
while copying large amount of data over-the-air or from external SDHC memory
card to internal memory or vice versa. In some
There is a thread (or two) about this on ITT.
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10014page=7
cheers,
josh
On 10/2/07, Piotr Zagorowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are asking about:
This new release (version number 4.2007.38-2) provides a software fix for a
bug
I can't believe that Nokia still expects its users to reload everything in
order to install a patch. This has got to be the most poorly designed OS
I've ever encountered. Fixing this should be their #1 priority.
I'm sorry to vent but this makes no sense. Many, like me, held off updating
Nick,
I share your pain and I wholeheartedly agree. The product will not find
traction in the business market (if that is a market in which Nokia has
interest for this product) unless this problem is fixed.
Also it would be helpful if Nokia would clearly specify ALL of the
changes in this
On 10/2/07, Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also it would be helpful if Nokia would clearly specify ALL of the
changes in this release. Is there any reason not to?
The fact that the initial digit (i.e. the revision number) is the same
suggests that the changes are minor. How do
This is how I read the announcement...fixes for just 2 bugs. However it
would be nice to see official change listeven if only to list these
2 bugs.
Btw (not to compare rotten apples to florida oranges) but WM
phones/devices and many others work the same way...reflash and reinstall.
I think
Thanks, John. I shouldn't have lost my cool. If you go to the regular
update site, this 'fix' wasn't listed. If it is just a minor fix (major to
some folks), it makes even less sense to completely flash the device.
Ok, I'm going to stop beating up Nokia now and do some work... :-)
Nick.
On 10/2/07, Gary Baribault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK then, can I beat up on them? I agree, this is a lousy way of doing
the updates, I cannot suggest this device to anyone if every time there
is an update, all applications have to be re-installed!! Why can't the
update take a proper#full
I have a cell and have had one for a long time .. I use it to make phone
calls and ignore the MP3/WEB and Camera. I also have three digital
cameras I don't need another one. I have a Creative Zen M with a 30Gig
drive that I'm looking forward to giving to my son when I start to use
my N800 for
I'm not sure I would characterize not performing updates without having to
reflash as an outrage against nature but it is more than mildly frustrating.
If we consider, for the N800, all updates since January and if it takes 3
hours to update the device plus reload/reconfigure all applications
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
Reality is that they are much closer to the resource constrains of a
cell phone and I don't know of a single cell phone that doesn't just
wipe everything that isn't on the SIM or external memory card on a
firmware update ...
Sorry, not true. All
I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20
minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90
minutes. I'm near there and have only had the toy for about 20 days. By
the time I'm finished customizing the application load, configurations,
ssh keys, and
I'm 3-4 hours.
Nick.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:44 PM
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Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can
Nokia already announced that this will be fixed in the upcoming 4.x
Chinhook release. To install 4.0 you'll have to reflash but after 4.0,
each new release will be upgradable via dpkg.
Please do your research first. And no, caps won't help.
On 10/2/07, Dr. Nicholas Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would take me at least that long... took that long when I had to
re-flash my N770 after a system crash, just a few days after I bought
the thing. Now? Much longer, I'm sure. Probably several hours,
continuous, and then several days of fiddling and oh I forgot that, etc.
Thomas
Dr. Nicholas
Yeah, and as I said, I just got it, I assume (yep I know .. ass of you
and me) that I will get better at doing this, but it will also get more
customized. So .. I don't expect my time to get better, and I wonder if
Nokia could not change their priorities and give us this fuctionality
earlier ..
Kemal,
That's nice. I also have an e-mail from Nokia stating that it would be
fixed in the 2d release. Don't mind if I don't hold my breath.
Regards,
Nick.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 12:19:49 Andrew Flegg wrote:
On 10/2/07, Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also it would be helpful if Nokia would clearly specify ALL of the
changes in this release. Is there any reason not to?
The fact that the initial digit (i.e. the revision
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 14:43:34 Gary Baribault wrote:
I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20
minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90
minutes. I'm near there and have only had the toy for about 20 days. By
the time I'm finished
I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20
minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90
minutes.
If you limit your curiosity to those over 90 minutes, you'll
purposefully skew the results, which really isn't appropriate.
I'm a 20 minute
Is there an automated scheduled back up utility somewhere on Maemo that
would allow one to automatically back up the unit in the middle of the
night when it's idling along/charging?
Seems like a no brainer utility that ought to be available.
Always, Fred C
All,
I think I have you beat. I just reflashed with the (now) previous
firmware because updating a lib in red-pill mode bricked my N800:
http://sense-datum.org/tim/archive/2007/09/17/Sunburned_parched_and_otherwis/tim_samoff__weblog
It took me an entire weekend to gett back up to speed. So, in
Yep, that's exactly what I mean, some people have put down 430$ (in
Canada) for a nice toy, and they can flash and restore in 20 minutes,
but most people (I think, and I may be wrong) have put down 430$ for a
fully customised device .. I'm not looking to be skewing information, if
i'm wrong, then
These #s mean nothing without taking into account target user as you
mention.
Do Nothing: This person buys device, installs a few apps and nothing
else. (TARGET AUDIENCE)
Minimal: These users install bunches of apps, certificates, pgp keys
(SECONDARY)
Maxmimum: Power Users/Devt who fully tweak
Yes. Try rdiff-backup. It will take some configuring but a straight
forward script can be found at
http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/examples.html
Nick.
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Hey Mike,
I think most people who are minimalists would not get involved in a
Linux device, they would have gone for the IPhone. Sure there will be
some of them who purchase a 400$+ device for minimal functionality, but,
and I may be mistaken, the red wine is getting to me here, most of
Stay tuned Brian ...
http://tabletblog.com/2007/09/third-internet-tablet-slider-confirmed.html
On 10/2/07, Brian Litzinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:24:48PM -0700, Mike Klein wrote:
This is how I read the announcement...fixes for just 2 bugs. However it
Btw (not to
I don't consider my n800 a toy. I've been in and out of computers and
prrogramming since 1968. The N800 is a new device of extremely
limited power, but very nice utility, if used within reasonable
limits.
Those expecting more need a reality check if they expect to push the
envelope of a small
Regardless of my most likely incorrect categorization...it exists and
affects #s reported that if people don't include category they fall
into...then #s mean nothing.
Nokia knows it is a problem and plans to address it anyways...so kudos
to them.
Since N800 isn't a phone I can't see comparison
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 18:45:59 Fred C wrote:
I don't consider my n800 a toy. I've been in and out of computers and
prrogramming since 1968. The N800 is a new device of extremely
limited power, but very nice utility, if used within reasonable
limits.
Those expecting more need a reality
guys
It takes longer to read this thread than it does to reinstall my apps.
At least it's improving... I used to have to restore sources.list
too...
brad
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On Tuesday 02 October 2007 19:03:56 Brad Midgley wrote:
guys
It takes longer to read this thread than it does to reinstall my apps.
At least it's improving... I used to have to restore sources.list
too...
brad
Ya don't have to read every post every time ya know *cheesy grin*
James
On 10/2/07, Jac Kersing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
Reality is that they are much closer to the resource constrains of a
cell phone and I don't know of a single cell phone that doesn't just
wipe everything that isn't on the SIM or external memory
I'll play with powerlaunch.conf in a bit, but asking just for the sake
of more discussion in the list: would it work with overlapping
profiles? ie. one power key press toggles softpoweroff, but one
powerkeypress immediately followed by (ie. in 1500 msecs) another
action does something else?
Now that's funny... :-)
Nick.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 8:04 PM
To: Gary Baribault
Cc: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: 4.2007.38-2 available
guys
It takes longer to read this
What I'm not understanding here is that the tablet is a debian Linux
system, in it's essence... what's the issue with just making the updated
packages available, for the power users and tweakers willing to go
through the work of a manual update? It doesn't do anything to prevent
the folks
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