Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Giacomo Tufano
Sorry, Frantisek. You was right. The log entries are directly related to sounds. In particular to key clicks... In my mind, the clicks were mechanicals. :) again, sorry and thank you for pointing me! On 4/21/08, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Giacomo Tufano wrote: > > I understand th

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Giacomo Tufano wrote: > I understand they are sound related, but I'm sure that I have those > messages, in couples, every 10 seconds or so whatever I do. Also when > the tablet is idle, with keyboard and screen locked. No sound is > heard, of course. This is the reason I was thinking this was > str

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Giacomo Tufano ha escrit: >> What applets you have enabled in Home? > > Internet search, web link (no change on standard URI), Tableteer info, > clock and Internet Radio (never used, sitting idle). > Are you using rtcomm with a voice (sip) account enabled? Bye -- Luca _

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Tony Green
On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote: > Btw (as a comment to a previous message): everyone have a system log, > do 'dmesg' on a terminal to see it. > Have a nice evening, gt So I do! Much quieter than yours though - just a few messages about voltage regulation. -- Tony Green Ipswich, Suf

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Giacomo Tufano
I understand they are sound related, but I'm sure that I have those messages, in couples, every 10 seconds or so whatever I do. Also when the tablet is idle, with keyboard and screen locked. No sound is heard, of course. This is the reason I was thinking this was strange... But I really don't know.

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Giacomo Tufano wrote: > A last note... the "EAC mode: play enable, rec (dis)(e)nabled" couple > of messages I see in system log are "normal"? It doesn't seem so... This is related to sound playback. If you have touchscreen or system sounds enabled you may have a lot of those messages (each screen

Re: Can't become root :-(

2008-04-21 Thread Mark
Thanks for the suggestions, but many of them were chicken-and egg problems, and I had already tried all the "become root" methods on maemo.org. My previous upgrade from OS2008-1 to OS2008-2 had gone painlessly, including restoring all the settings and apps. It's beyond me why the restore choked wh

Re: Is OS2006 still supported?

2008-04-21 Thread Mark
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You keep talking about the quite stable desktop architecture. The > relevant comparison for this discussion are Linux distros or whatever OS > installed in devices fitting in your pocket offering long term support > (say 3 y

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Tony Green
On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote: > A last note... the "EAC mode: play enable, rec (dis)(e)nabled" couple > of messages I see in system log are "normal"? It doesn't seem so... Not only don't I see this in my system log - I don't even have a system log being written! The only log that

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Giacomo Tufano
Hi, On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ext Giacomo Tufano wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > What applets you have enabled in Home? > > > > > Internet search, web link (no change on standard URI),

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Matt Emson wrote: > Eero Tamminen wrote: >>> It is. Sitting on poll(). >>> >> >> In that case crawler is not the issue. >> > > Humour me. Kill the crawler, stop it form respawning (rename the file), > fully charge your tablet, leave it over night. If it is dead as per > usual, y

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Giacomo Tufano wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> One possibility is a WLAN AP with broken power management, but then >> things shouldn't get that much worse with newer OS release. Another >> possibility is some process using network

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Matt Emson
Eero Tamminen wrote: >> It is. Sitting on poll(). >> > > In that case crawler is not the issue. > Humour me. Kill the crawler, stop it form respawning (rename the file), fully charge your tablet, leave it over night. If it is dead as per usual, yes it is another issue. What is there to l

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Giacomo Tufano
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One possibility is a WLAN AP with broken power management, but then > things shouldn't get that much worse with newer OS release. Another > possibility is some process using network often. > > Could you try using "Off

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Giacomo Tufano wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Kimmo Hämäläinen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 14:09 +0100, ext Matt Emson wrote: >> > Giacomo Tufano wrote: >> > > The 'metalayer-crawler' is, apparently, idle (bad, I'd like a simple >> > > solution). :-(

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Matt Emson wrote: > Giacomo Tufano wrote: >> After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why >> I did it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, >> very short. I go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a >> night... > > One thing com

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Giacomo Tufano
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Kimmo Hämäläinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 14:09 +0100, ext Matt Emson wrote: > > Giacomo Tufano wrote: > > > The 'metalayer-crawler' is, apparently, idle (bad, I'd like a simple > > > solution). :-( > > > > Even though it often doesn't

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Giacomo Tufano wrote: >>> On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote: After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, very short. I go from full battery down to automatic shutdo

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Giacomo Tufano wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ext Tony Green wrote: >>> On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote: After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did it, because I had no problem on

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Matt Emson
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 14:09 +0100, ext Matt Emson wrote: > >> Even though it often doesn't look like it is the metalayer-crawler, >> killing it always makes a big difference for me. Honestly, I had my >> > ... > > You could check it with "strace -p " (Debian > a

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 14:09 +0100, ext Matt Emson wrote: > Giacomo Tufano wrote: > > The 'metalayer-crawler' is, apparently, idle (bad, I'd like a simple > > solution). :-( > > > > Even though it often doesn't look like it is the metalayer-crawler, > killing it always makes a big difference fo

Re: Is OS2006 still supported?

2008-04-21 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Quim Gil wrote: > Frantisek Dufka wrote: >> BTW is the first 2008HE also the last one? > > Undecided. Is it worth investing more time on this? If so, is it worth > investing it keeping the current way or finding a way for the community > to take over? Current way is not ideal from the beginning.

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Matt Emson
Giacomo Tufano wrote: > The 'metalayer-crawler' is, apparently, idle (bad, I'd like a simple > solution). :-( > Even though it often doesn't look like it is the metalayer-crawler, killing it always makes a big difference for me. Honestly, I had my first week of N800 ownership with the battery

Re: Is OS2006 still supported?

2008-04-21 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Quim Gil ha escrit: > Luca Olivetti wrote: >> Well, yes, but a company that buys chipsets in the millions has a lot >> more bargaining force with its suppliers than a lone hacker in a >> basement, hasn't it? > > In theory yes, in practice the game doesn't work like this. Bargaining > does

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Giacomo Tufano
Hi, On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Eero Tamminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > ext Tony Green wrote: > > On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote: > >> After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did > >> it, because I had no problem on startup) battery

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 11:59 +0100, ext Matt Emson wrote: > Giacomo Tufano wrote: > > After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why > > I did it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, > > very short. I go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Matt Emson
Giacomo Tufano wrote: > After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why > I did it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, > very short. I go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a > night... One thing comes to mind : metalayer-crawler... Thi

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Tony Green wrote: > On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote: >> After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did >> it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, very short. I >> go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a night... >

Re: Is OS2006 still supported?

2008-04-21 Thread Quim Gil
Thanks a lot for all this feedback! Points taken, I will process them. Frantisek, I'm specially aware that you raised these topics before and in detail. Extra thanks for your and your good blog post. Some comments: Luca Olivetti wrote: > Well, yes, but a company that buys chipsets in the millions

Re: Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Tony Green
On Monday 21 Apr 2008, Giacomo Tufano wrote: > After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did > it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, very short. I > go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a night... > I tried reinstalling the OS, th

Battery life VERY short on N810, last OS2008...

2008-04-21 Thread Giacomo Tufano
After installing the last revision of OS2008 (I don't really know why I did it, because I had no problem on startup) battery life is very, very short. I go from full battery down to automatic shutdown in a night... I tried reinstalling the OS, then I tried reinstalling the OS and not restore backup