Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread Niels Breet
[Top posting to waste as little time as possible on this useless topic.] I have sent the owner of the repository this mail: Hi, We're currently working on getting the number of external repositories down to a minimum. Our goal

Re: Default PIM software

2008-11-22 Thread Peter Flynn
Mark wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Peter Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was the biggest mistake, IMHO. I've never used it for the simple reason that there is no software (that I have found) to do anything meaningful with it, and the software provided is a chat system to which

Re: Default PIM software

2008-11-22 Thread Mark
On 11/22/08, Peter Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Peter Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was the biggest mistake, IMHO. I've never used it for the simple reason that there is no software (that I have found) to do anything meaningful with

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread Mark Haury
On 11/21/08, Dmitry S. Makovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Haury wrote: Everybody who owns one of these tablets is not a developer. according to original poster he was after Kismet. That is not a toy your average user would install. He did know what he was asking for. He did know about

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/11/22 Dmitry S. Makovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] first of all: why do you reflash your 770? Ever since I've got my 800 I have reflashed it exactly once - to get Diablo. Is there some specific requirement of 770 to reflash it so often? Is that because of the fact that pre-diablo systems can't be

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/11/22 Dmitry S. Makovey [EMAIL PROTECTED] according to original poster he was after Kismet. That is not a toy your average user would install. He did know what he was asking for. He did know about etiquette on ML and he should've checked the facts before accusing people. Mark, you didn't

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread Daniel Martin Yerga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:55:28 +0100 sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it really exists a folder named extras-devel in http://repository.maemo.org/ it should be explained in the main website where you can find a detailed description of all

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/11/22 Niels Breet [EMAIL PROTECTED] We're currently working on getting the number of external repositories down to a minimum. Our goal is to have a lot less repositories on gronmayer as soon as possible. This will hopefully improve user experience. Gronmayer is a great site... after

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread Daniel Martin Yerga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:47:47 +0100 sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before Nokia tried to consolidate any repo my problem didn't exist... My problem came with Nokia's decision... So though they're indirectly responsible for that... (from my

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/11/22 Daniel Martin Yerga [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it really exists a folder named extras-devel in http://repository.maemo.org/ it should be explained in the main website where you can find a detailed description of all folders in the site... Do you understand what I mean when I say

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/11/22 Daniel Martin Yerga [EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't see anyone complaint when it was proposed, you should have explained your reasons when it happened. Why should I complain?... I think it's a great idea... when it's done with care of course... you cannot disable a repository until you

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread Daniel Martin Yerga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:19:32 +0100 sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Daniel... the apps you've developed are so useful that I won't take into consideration your yelling at me... Well, thanks. I won't take your last thread as

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
sebastian maemo wrote: Why should I complain?... I think it's a great idea... when it's done with care of course... you cannot disable a repository until you confirm that all packages are correctly transferred... But it's so logical thing that I really don't understand what all you are talking

Re: App-Manager failure

2008-11-22 Thread Peter Flynn
Ryan Abel wrote: Yes, upgrade to Diablo, it has a much more useful Application Manager. :) I haven't got that far yet. Having avoided OS2008 on the information on most forums that it basically broke too many things that worked in OS2007, I need to look much harder at what will and won't work

Re: Default PIM software

2008-11-22 Thread Peter Flynn
Mark wrote: You're right. It is possible to change a setting so the default useless app doesn't open when you pop out the camera, but that doesn't change the fact that the tablet doesn't come with anything useful. That setting doesn't seem to stick too well. Skype and Gizmo are only a couple

Re: Default PIM software

2008-11-22 Thread Mark Haury
Peter Flynn wrote: Is there anything available in Diablo or OS2008 that uses the camera successfully? (Just curious) The list of apps that I posted before: I've used Camera, GPS-Camera, and Videocamera successfully. Mark ___ maemo-users mailing

Re: App-Manager failure

2008-11-22 Thread Mark Haury
Ryan Abel wrote: Yes, upgrade to Diablo, it has a much more useful Application Manager. :) ...and a bunch of other stuff is broken that previously worked... If that's not an option, running apt-get update as root in xterm will give you more verbose errors ...which is fine for advanced

Re: Default PIM software

2008-11-22 Thread Mark Haury
Peter Flynn wrote: Is there anything available in Diablo or OS2008 that uses the camera successfully? (Just curious) Er.. you may be referring to networked apps again. I don't know of any. The last time I checked, Skype and Gizmo didn't support the camera. Somebody correct me if that's

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread Ryan Abel
On Nov 22, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Dmitry S. Makovey wrote: sebastian maemo wrote: Why should I complain?... I think it's a great idea... when it's done with care of course... you cannot disable a repository until you confirm that all packages are correctly transferred... But it's so logical

Re: App-Manager failure

2008-11-22 Thread Ryan Abel
On Nov 22, 2008, at 5:08 PM, Peter Flynn wrote: Ryan Abel wrote: Yes, upgrade to Diablo, it has a much more useful Application Manager. :) I haven't got that far yet. Having avoided OS2008 on the information on most forums that it basically broke too many things that worked in

Re: App-Manager failure

2008-11-22 Thread Ryan Abel
On Nov 22, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Mark Haury wrote: Ryan Abel wrote: Yes, upgrade to Diablo, it has a much more useful Application Manager. :) ...and a bunch of other stuff is broken that previously worked... bunch of stuff isn't a useful metric for your argument. There was some stuff,

Re: Default PIM software

2008-11-22 Thread Ryan Abel
On Nov 22, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Mark Haury wrote: Peter Flynn wrote: Is there anything available in Diablo or OS2008 that uses the camera successfully? (Just curious) Er.. you may be referring to networked apps again. I don't know of any. The last time I checked, Skype and Gizmo didn't

Re: App-Manager failure

2008-11-22 Thread Peter Flynn
Ryan Abel wrote: Ignore trolls and upgrade. :) Seriously, you get a whole 70 extra megahertz for _free_, not to mention improvements pretty much _everywhere_. A lot depends on what the improvements are :-) Seriously, upgrade. Bora is old, slow, and unsupported. So long as I can flash back

Re: App-Manager failure

2008-11-22 Thread Ryan Abel
On Nov 22, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Peter Flynn wrote: Ryan Abel wrote: Ignore trolls and upgrade. :) Seriously, you get a whole 70 extra megahertz for _free_, not to mention improvements pretty much _everywhere_. A lot depends on what the improvements are :-) Pretty much everything, but I can

Re: App-Manager failure

2008-11-22 Thread Tim Ashman
On Saturday 22 November 2008 03:53:04 pm Peter Flynn wrote: Ryan Abel wrote: Ignore trolls and upgrade. :) Seriously, you get a whole 70 extra megahertz for _free_, not to mention improvements pretty much _everywhere_. A lot depends on what the improvements are :-) Seriously, upgrade.

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread sebastian maemo
Ok, thanks to all of you for so much feedback... this means people is involved anyway... I think it's time to flash back and try to be constructive... As I've admitted before, the original rant of the first mail in the thread is because of the obvious disappointment after so many months having

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/11/23 sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] And now, I'll check the new wikihttp://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_cardabout booting from MMC and modify it in case it doesn't work to me... I'd like to... but something doesn't work with wiki.maemo.org ... who's to blame? ;-) Salut,

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread Faheem Pervez
Works for me, but they did mess up with the squid running on the wiki so in Firefox, just press Ctrl-Shift-R when you get a blank page. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:23 AM, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 2008/11/23 sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] And now, I'll check the new

Re: the hell of Maemo repos

2008-11-22 Thread sebastian maemo
2008/11/23 Faheem Pervez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Works for me, but they did mess up with the squid running on the wiki so in Firefox, just press Ctrl-Shift-R when you get a blank page. Nope... it doesn't work for me... I can login OK but when I follow the link to the page I want to edit I'm not