Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2008-01-10 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 03:32:51AM +0100, sebastian maemo wrote: > Dear Marius: > > 2007/12/29, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > So, what command-line tools do you miss? I've got an idle scratchbox > > here. > > Could you please make a deb package for aircrack-ng for 770? If it's a simp

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2008-01-09 Thread sebastian maemo
Dear Marius: 2007/12/29, Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > So, what command-line tools do you miss? I've got an idle scratchbox > here. Could you please make a deb package for aircrack-ng for 770? Thank you very much in advance. Salut, Sebas. _

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2008-01-05 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:33:41AM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008 06:07:47 Marius Gedminas wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 11:42:01PM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: > > > Hendrik, > > > > > > Actually ping requires root on all systems. Since in order to > > > d

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2008-01-04 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 06:07:47 Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 11:42:01PM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: > > Hendrik, > > > > Actually ping requires root on all systems. Since in order to > > do icmp you need to put the nic into a different mode than it > > runs in norma

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2008-01-02 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 11:42:01PM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: > Hendrik, > > Actually ping requires root on all systems. Since in order to do > icmp you need to put the nic into a different mode than it runs in > normally. The way it is normally done on every other linux distro is >

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2008-01-02 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: >>> If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and go directly to 08. There's >>> enough 08 stuff for a new user that you'll spend a week or more >>> exploring all that's available, and by then, even more s

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2008-01-01 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sunday 30 December 2007 08:10:39 am Peter Flynn wrote: > Tuomas Kulve wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping > >> that would mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people > >> to use root when not necessary is itself a securit

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2008-01-01 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sunday 30 December 2007 06:50:05 am [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 07:23:15PM -0500, James Knott wrote: > > Peter Flynn wrote: > > > Marius Gedminas wrote: > > >> On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: > > If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-31 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 08:46:45PM +, Neil MacLeod wrote: > Marius Gedminas wrote: > > > > I've built some today (less, links, mc, wget; made vim actually > > installable). I don't have upload privileges to maemo extras yet, so > > you can find them only at http://mg.pov.lt/770/ > > Just to

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Greenland
According to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 07:23:15PM -0500, James Knott wrote: > > > > Ping is there, but you have to be root to use it. > > That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping that would > mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people to use ro

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread Neil MacLeod
Marius Gedminas wrote: > > I've built some today (less, links, mc, wget; made vim actually > installable). I don't have upload privileges to maemo extras yet, so > you can find them only at http://mg.pov.lt/770/ > Just to say that wget, less and traceroute are already available in repos[i]tory

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 12:10:27AM +, Peter Flynn wrote: > Marius Gedminas wrote: > > So, what command-line tools do you miss? I've got an idle scratchbox > > here. > > ping and traceroute would be useful. Here you are: http://mg.pov.lt/770/ping.install http://mg.pov.lt/770/traceroute.i

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 07:54:44PM +0200, Tuomas Kulve wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > There's a big difference between setuid root ahd having to be root. > > Ping is just a link to busybox and setting busybox as setuid wouldn't > probably be a good solution either. How about a /usr/bin/

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread James Knott
Tuomas Kulve wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> There's a big difference between setuid root ahd having to be root. >> > > Ping is just a link to busybox and setting busybox as setuid wouldn't > probably be a good solution either. > > So are vi and pwd, but they both work, without

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread Tuomas Kulve
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There's a big difference between setuid root ahd having to be root. Ping is just a link to busybox and setting busybox as setuid wouldn't probably be a good solution either. -- Tuomas signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 05:03:42PM +0200, Tuomas Kulve wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping that would > > mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people to use root when not > > necessary is itself a security problem. > > Pi

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread Tuukka Tolvanen
Peter Flynn wrote: > Tuomas Kulve wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping that would >>> mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people to use root when not >>> necessary is itself a security problem. >> Ping seems to be setuid ro

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread Peter Flynn
Tuomas Kulve wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping that would >> mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people to use root when not >> necessary is itself a security problem. > > Ping seems to be setuid root on my debian. So i

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread Krischan Keitsch
> I've built some today (less, links, mc, wget; made vim actually > installable). I don't have upload privileges to maemo extras yet, so > you can find them only at http://mg.pov.lt/770/ > ... > > Marius Gedminas Hi Marius, thanks for providing "mc". That makes remote working on the device much

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread Zoran Kolic
> > That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping that would > > mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people to use root when not > > necessary is itself a security problem. > > I have no idea, but I've come across a few things in the N800 that cause > me to question some

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread James Knott
Tuomas Kulve wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping that would >> mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people to use root when not >> necessary is itself a security problem. >> > > Ping seems to be setuid root on my d

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread James Knott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Ping is there, but you have to be root to use it. >> > > That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping that would > mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people to use root when not > necessary is itself a security problem. > > I have no

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread Tuomas Kulve
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That's bizarre. What security implications are there in ping that would > mean it has to be run only by root? Forcing people to use root when not > necessary is itself a security problem. Ping seems to be setuid root on my debian. So it's run as root here too. --

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-30 Thread hendrik
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 07:23:15PM -0500, James Knott wrote: > Peter Flynn wrote: > > Marius Gedminas wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: > >> > If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and go directly to 08. There's > enough 08 stuff for a

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-29 Thread Zoran Kolic
> > A lot of useful command line tools have gone to the mist. > > Hope the same will not get perl, python, ruby... > > So, what command-line tools do you miss? I've got an idle scratchbox > here. None. I still have my 770 and it works fine. I made a mistake and said my word or two about trend in

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-29 Thread James Knott
Peter Flynn wrote: > Marius Gedminas wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: >> If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and go directly to 08. There's enough 08 stuff for a new user that you'll spend a week or more exploring all that's availa

Re: Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-29 Thread Peter Flynn
Marius Gedminas wrote: > On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: >>> If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and go directly to 08. There's >>> enough 08 stuff for a new user that you'll spend a week or more >>> exploring all that's available, and by then, even more stuff will

Missing OS2008 cmdline apps (was Re: how to install OS2007?)

2007-12-29 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:43:51PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote: > > If you're a new user, I'd forget O7 and go directly to 08. There's > > enough 08 stuff for a new user that you'll spend a week or more > > exploring all that's available, and by then, even more stuff will be > > available. > > A