Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia We lcome Center?

Gustavo Giampaoli writes: > I think this Welcome center would appear in the very first boot. Just > as the welcome page of Mandriva. And with a click, in the "X", you > remove it and it never appears again. > > You wouldn't see it in every boot. > That's the point: user can choose if want see

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

I just hope there won't be a survey when you first install, because if you have no internet it doesn't let you do anything. You have to like go to console and do not cool stuff. I guess as long as it is not invasive it will be fine. ___ Mageia-dev ma

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia We lcome Center?

> I agree with Dick, for me the whole idea seems patronising. I have > seen this described as being for newbies or old users, well at 67 > tears old I certainly do not feel the need for this. > Think in emotive computer. Think that user starts up your computer and sees a window with text: "Goo

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

>> I regret that I do not very much like the idea. But if everyone on > this >> list wants it: okay. I think this Welcome center would appear in the very first boot. Just as the welcome page of Mandriva. And with a click, in the "X", you remove it and it never appears again. You wouldn't see it i

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

On Wednesday 29 September 2010 21:59:14 Dick Gevers wrote: > Dear Andre! > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:03:05 + (UTC), Andre Machado wrote about > > [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?: > >http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png > > And this is

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, nicolas vigier wrote: > On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, Lucien-Henry Horvath wrote: > > > > > The kind of responses I expected was just : > > - Ex-employes are making the governance (oopps, you have responded thanks > > for that ;-) ) > > - We have in prevision to make a meeting in 1-2

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

guys, I just found out that Linux Mint has something similar to what we want to implement, but the difference is that theirs has only links to the websites of our community and will have links to the most common tasks that the user will perform: http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/cleitoncfl/

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:07:02 + (UTC), André Machado wrote about Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?: >The Audience is that users that are having your first contacts with >GNU/Linux. I remembered ages ago a certain Redmond product asking me "What do you wan

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

> we can have both packages :) I say more: we SHOULD have both packages :) And shoud have too OxygenOffice and BROffice, this, the same OpenOffice but the Brazilian version, that changed its name due to a legal question with a local enterprise what is a ownership to OpenOffice name in this count

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

> Nooo! unless you want the guy maintaining the go-oo/libreoffice > packages to commit suicide :) There may be a maintainer for each suite, as there may be a regular for the Linux kernel and other kernel for Free. In the latter case, we do a poll;) _

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

Dick Gevers writes: > > Dear Andre! > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:03:05 + (UTC), Andre Machado wrote about > [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?: > > >http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png > > And this is supposed to cover my whole desktop?

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia We lcome Center?

OK, but we need put a online version of WC. Maybe, instead of put a FAQ list, put links to random wiki artcles. As to the knowledge base, I recognize that with the wiki, it really is not necessary. ___ Mageia-dev mailing list Mageia-dev@mageia.org https:

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

Dear Andre! On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:03:05 + (UTC), Andre Machado wrote about [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?: >http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png And this is supposed to cover my whole desktop? Please: no. I don't mean to be disrespe

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010/9/29 André Machado : > I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages: > > http://welcome.mageia.org -> the online version of Welcome Center, acessible > from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at: It will lead to the mageia.org news

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

Le 29/09/2010 22:37, André Machado a écrit : I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages: http://welcome.mageia.org -> the online version of Welcome Center, acessible from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at: http://kb.mageia.org

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages: http://welcome.mageia.org -> the online version of Welcome Center, acessible from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at: http://kb.mageia.org -> A full knowledge base in the form of question

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

> > Hi Olivier, > > The idea here is not only to give general information during installation but > to create a welcome screen that'll help newbies get around a linux distro : > what are the major softs to use to cruise de net, create text document, > listen to music, configure PC, desktop and s

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

2010/9/29 André Machado : > >> I'd say that Gustavo is right on this one. What do we really want : a >> setup/configuration tool to help newbies or a welcome page to help newbies >> recognized what the different apps in linux are for? > > Maybe both: we can start showing a page with information and

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli : > I found both aproaches really atractive and useful. > > Kaptan looks very intuitive, easy and centralize most (if not all) the > most common and basic settings that a person with basic knowledge > could need after the first boot. > > However, wobo's aproach is also i

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

> I'd say that Gustavo is right on this one. What do we really want : a > setup/configuration tool to help newbies or a welcome page to help newbies > recognized what the different apps in linux are for? Maybe both: we can start showing a page with information and put it an "Advanced options" but

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.

2010/9/29 alktodostemen alko > > Soy usuario de Gmail y he pensado que quizás te gustaría probarlo. Te envío > una invitación para que crees tu propia cuenta. > > ¡Has recibido una invitación para usar Gmail! > > alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail. > > Gmail es el servi

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

> - Display on the welcome screen basic hardware information : Processor, > RAM, video card and the driver currently activated. Can this be done using HTML pages or need some extra tool? > - A link to sysinfo:// that offers some hardware information that could > fit inside the welcome center a

[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.

Soy usuario de Gmail y he pensado que quizás te gustaría probarlo. Te envío una invitación para que crees tu propia cuenta. ¡Has recibido una invitación para usar Gmail! alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail. Gmail es el servicio de correo electrónico gratuito de Googl

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

Es al estilo de la pantalla de bienvenida de jolicloud, es una idea muy acertada, buen trabajo ;) It is the style of the splash screen Jolicloud is a very wise idea, good job;) 2010/9/29 André Machado > Hey guys, > > I've read almost all topics of this thread, gathered some ideas and created > a

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

Hey guys, I've read almost all topics of this thread, gathered some ideas and created a non-functional HTML prototype of Mageia Welcome Center. I would like you to do download it at http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae and read the README file and get their views for me here. Let's start doing

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

> This is a nice idea > > Another moment to give information is when installing. Currently there > are > several images for promoting Mandriva (they are available on any > mirrors, for > example here : > .1/i586/install/ext

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

Le 29/09/2010 21:24, Olivier Méjean a écrit : This is a nice idea Another moment to give information is when installing. Currently there are several images for promoting Mandriva (they are available on any mirrors, for example here :

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

Le 29/09/2010 21:23, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : 2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli: we can have both packages :) +1 Of course. It's the most "logical" decision. I was wrong. After visit the LibreOffice web http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ I've found that English is the only language be

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli : >> we can have both packages :) > > +1 > > Of course. It's the most "logical" decision. I was wrong. After visit the LibreOffice web http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ I've found that English is the only language besides this: "This beta release is not inten

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

Le 29/09/2010 21:03, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : >> we can have both packages :) > > +1 > > Of course. It's the most "logical" decision. > > But I think Graham means which office suite will be the "default" one > shipped in the installation media. I like the idea of supporting > LibreOffice. If

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

On 29 September 2010 21:57, Michael Scherer wrote: > Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 06:43 +1300, Graham Lauder a écrit : >> On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 05:42:48 André Salaün wrote: >> > OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ? >> > >> > http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg0.html >> > h

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

> we can have both packages :) +1 Of course. It's the most "logical" decision. But I think Graham means which office suite will be the "default" one shipped in the installation media. I like the idea of supporting LibreOffice. If anything goes wrong, you always can do an "urpmi openoffice". It s

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 06:43 +1300, Graham Lauder a écrit : > On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 05:42:48 André Salaün wrote: > > OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ? > > > > http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg0.html > > http://www.documentfoundation.org/ > > Any decision will d

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 05:42:48 André Salaün wrote: > OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ? > > http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg0.html > http://www.documentfoundation.org/ Any decision will depend on timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia build is avaialble. Ri

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

On 29 September 2010 18:48, Adrian Marcinkowski wrote: > I would stick with OpenOffice. The faster cycle is not possible without > money coming from Oracle. Currently, most of the work is done by its > employees anyway. On the other hand many patches from external patches are rotting with neither

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

I found both aproaches really atractive and useful. Kaptan looks very intuitive, easy and centralize most (if not all) the most common and basic settings that a person with basic knowledge could need after the first boot. However, wobo's aproach is also important. What happends if Kaptan-like-too

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

On 29 September 2010 19:50, Gustavo Giampaoli wrote: > Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do. > > I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool. > > Display links is more a kind of "information" page. > > So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool > t

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

> boun...@mageia.org] De la part de Gustavo Giampaoli > Envoyé : 29 septembre 2010 12:51 > À : Mageia development mailing-list > Objet : Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia > WelcomeCenter? > > Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do. > > I mean, Kapta

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli : > > I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool. > > Display links is more a kind of "information" page. > > So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool > that can set most common things for newbies? I'd put more weight on the information part.

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010/9/29 Marek Laane : > > > 2010/9/29 Juan Luis Baptiste >> >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas >> wrote: >> > >> > I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist >> > desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup >> > to icon theme. T

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Gustavo Giampaoli wrote: > > Personally, I like the Kaptan idea. Don't know if it's possible to > port it to Mageia from developers' POV. > Me too, I'm downoading the iso right now to take a look at it. -- Juancho __

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

IMHO, LibreOffice! Adjamilton Júnior 2010/9/29 André Salaün > OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ? > > http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg0.html > http://www.documentfoundation.org/ > -- > A.Salaün > > > > ___ > Mageia-dev mai

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do. I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool. Display links is more a kind of "information" page. So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool that can set most common things for newbies? Personally, I like the

Re: [Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

W dniu 2010-09-29 18:42, André Salaün pisze: OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ? I would stick with OpenOffice. The faster cycle is not possible without money coming from Oracle. Currently, most of the work is done by its employees anyway. We should also remember that some part of Oracle's

[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ? http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg0.html http://www.documentfoundation.org/ -- A.Salaün ___ Mageia-dev mailing list Mageia-dev@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Thomas Lottmann wrote: > - A link to sysinfo:// that offers some hardware information that could fit > inside the welcome center as it is a simple HTML layout. On that page, there > can be a link directly to Harddrake to get even more information. Getting > system

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

I guess the Welcome Center could also be a place to offer two other links/tools : - A button to link directly to the community page, introducing the forums and all the other community services. - Display on the welcome screen basic hardware information : Processor, RAM, video card and the driv

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010/9/29 Juan Luis Baptiste > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas > wrote: > > > > I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist > > desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup > > to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app. > > Wow, this

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas wrote: > > I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist > desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup > to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app. Wow, this kaptan app looks really really nice, if someo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

Le 29/09/2010 15:36, Michael Scherer a écrit : > Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:34 +0200, Maât a écrit : > >> If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something >> amusing... >> > fast enough and with the crrect url of http://donate.mageia.org/ > > Ooop's s/mage

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:25 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : > 2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli : > > > > IMHO that wiki is to "slow". IRC is too "real time". MLs are the right > > mix between both. With MLs you have enough time to think and write > > your idea very clear. And is fast enough

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, [UTF-8] Maât wrote: > If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something amusing... mageia.org !!! ___ Mageia-dev mailing list Mageia-dev@mageia.org https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:34 +0200, Maât a écrit : > If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something > amusing... fast enough and with the crrect url of http://donate.mageia.org/ -- Michael Scherer ___ Mageia-dev maili

[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something amusing... ...the last donator made a humoristic donation that raised the amount to show three times the Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything :) Fun enough to notice :) Cheers, Maât

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli : > > IMHO that wiki is to "slow". IRC is too "real time". MLs are the right > mix between both. With MLs you have enough time to think and write > your idea very clear. And is fast enough to have lot of answers in a > few minutes. May I emphasize your point about IRC:

[Mageia-dev] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct

Founders of Mageia project are working hard in many "fields". One of those fields is to write founding documents. IMHO that we could/should provisionally rely on these: * Etiquette for mailing lists: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Support/Mailinglists/Etiquette * Code of conduct: http://wiki.m

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

> A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of > Mageia we want... > like, "We want RPM, we want plain-text mails only, we want a cool logo", > etc... IMHO that people is going too far in this moment. I mean, far in the future. Think that we have almost nothing yet. Not ev

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

Robert Xu schrieb am 2010-09-29 > Let's keep on topic, yes? This thread has no real topic, has it? > A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of > Mageia we want... > like, "We want RPM There are technical reasons for some things, in the rpm vs. deb threads it has been an

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

2010/9/29 Robert Xu : > > A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of > Mageia we want... > like, "We want RPM, we want plain-text mails only, we want a cool logo", > etc... > > If you do that, people can go there for reference, and if we agree on > stuff, you can change th

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 07:40, Gustavo Giampaoli wrote: >> i know you mean well, but would you please (pretty please with sugar on top), >> calm the f*** down. > > I am VERY "f***ing" calm. If I was some kind of crybaby, maybe I > should feel disrespect because you wrote "f***"? > > I'm sorry if y

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010/9/29 André Machado : > >>    The welcome "center" could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same >> sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your >> suggested layout, and a "help" tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome >> text + have links to help documentatio

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

> i know you mean well, but would you please (pretty please with sugar on top), > calm the f*** down. I am VERY "f***ing" calm. If I was some kind of crybaby, maybe I should feel disrespect because you wrote "f***"? I'm sorry if you (or anyone else) are misunderstanding my words. However, I affir

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia We lcome Center?

>The welcome "center" could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same > sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your > suggested layout, and a "help" tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome > text + have links to help documentation. This idea was perfect!

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

Le Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:12:38 +0300, atilla ontas a écrit : > >> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux > >> because of the differences between these two environments. A > >> critical point is the difference between the programs used to > >> perform common tasks. > >> > >

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010/9/29 Marcello Anni : >> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of >> the differences between these two environments. A critical point is the >> difference between the programs used to perform common tasks. >> >> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of > the differences between these two environments. A critical point is the > difference between the programs used to perform common tasks. > > Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What >

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Andre Machado wrote: > > the haste is the enemy of perfection. > > Reguards, > > André > > > Indeed. ___ Mageia-dev mailing list Mageia-dev@mageia.org https://www.mage

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

Le 29/09/2010 09:35, P. Christeas a écrit : > On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Maât wrote: > > >>> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png >>> >> i like this idea ! >> >> > I like it too. But it reminds me of the Mandriva welcome page: > >The welcome "center" coul

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

2010/9/29 Maât : > Le 29/09/2010 03:03, Andre Machado a écrit : >> >> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png >> > i like this idea ! I like it only for this special case (first time user, etc.). I could imagine it as replacement of the Mandriva Galaxy Welcome screen, which pops u

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Maât wrote: > > http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png > > i like this idea ! > I like it too. But it reminds me of the Mandriva welcome page: The welcome "center" could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same sense that the Mandriva w

Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

Le 29/09/2010 03:03, Andre Machado a écrit : > We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of > the > differences between these two environments. A critical point is the difference > between the programs used to perform common tasks. > > Thinking about it, I had the id