Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/3 andré : > > Targeting the school boards makes a lot of sense. Again this is something you can not generalize, different countries have different structures. In Germany it is not a school board who decides what software will be bought for a certain region or school. This is decided on sta

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-02 Thread Marc Paré
Targeting the school boards makes a lot of sense. Note that Openoffice targeted various gov't organisations in France, some of which ended up migrating to Mandriva as well. Maybe that could work with school boards as well. I'm tempted to try something like that with mine, in banlieue of Montréal.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-02 Thread andré
Michael Scherer a écrit : Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 22:05 +0800, Kira a écrit : "A distribution for Newbie" is good, but I think what Graham said is better. Well, saying "a distribution for newbies" is not as good as it sound. If you market the distribution so people think "if yo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-02 Thread andré
Kira a écrit : 在 Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:18:08 +0800, Samuel Verschelde 寫道: Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 16:05:26, Kira a écrit : So, what's the difference Mageia had toward other distribution? "Simple to use yet powerful" : - newbie-friendly (yes ubuntu is on this market, but to me Mandriva do

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-02 Thread andré
Marc Paré a écrit : Le 2010-10-01 05:56, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2010/10/1 Marc Paré: Such applications don't have to be installed by default. They just have to be available on the installation DVD, with a selectable Educational group of applications, much like the Internet and Server grou

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-02 Thread andré
Graham Lauder a écrit : On Friday 01 Oct 2010 20:37:52 Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 2010/10/1 Graham Lauder: The families: if the kid wants a computer then either Dad buys a new one and the kids get the old, or they buy a new one but mom has no say, it's either Dad or the kids because the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation

2010-10-02 Thread Raphaël Jadot
Le 2 octobre 2010 20:50, Rémi Verschelde a écrit : > > 2010/10/2 Olivier Thauvin >> >> The futur of internet need you ! >> >> The goal of the EPOLL project was to write an OSS software to perform >> vote, respecting everything you can expect about a vote (anonymous >> ballot, delay, transparency)

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-02 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 2 October 2010 21:50, Fabrice Facorat wrote: > Le 2 octobre 2010 17:52, Nicolas Lécureuil a > écrit : >> >> >> 2010/10/2 Fabrice Facorat >>> >>> 2010/10/1 Sinner from the Prairy : >>> > Fabrice Facorat wrote: > >>> > Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome. >>>

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-02 Thread Fabrice Facorat
Le 2 octobre 2010 17:52, Nicolas Lécureuil a écrit : > > > 2010/10/2 Fabrice Facorat >> >> 2010/10/1 Sinner from the Prairy : >> > Fabrice Facorat wrote: >> > Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome. >> > draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well. >> >> some to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation

2010-10-02 Thread Rémi Verschelde
2010/10/2 Olivier Thauvin > The futur of internet need you ! > > The goal of the EPOLL project was to write an OSS software to perform > vote, respecting everything you can expect about a vote (anonymous > ballot, delay, transparency). > > It seems the software will be use by Mageia (it has been

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-02 Thread Angelo Naselli
In data venerdì 1 ottobre 2010 22:51:48, David W. Hodgins ha scritto: > If the release number was no longer part of the rpm name, packages that > were not changed (which I would expect to be the bulk of them), would not > have to be recompiled, or downloaded/installed, every six months. That > wou

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Marc Paré
Majority of users do not want choice. Those of us who want choice are knowledgeable enough to find out how to install $AlternativeSoftware. Salut, Sinner I agree with this statement. Human nature, being what it is, will always look for the shortest and easiest route. Marc

[Mageia-dev] Epoll need translation

2010-10-02 Thread Olivier Thauvin
The futur of internet need you ! The goal of the EPOLL project was to write an OSS software to perform vote, respecting everything you can expect about a vote (anonymous ballot, delay, transparency). It seems the software will be use by Mageia (it has been also used by the University of Versaille

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-02 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 2 October 2010 14:50, Jérôme Martin wrote: > Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010, Olivier Méjean a écrit : >> Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 08:51:34, atilla ontas a écrit : > >> > What's your opinion? >> >> What about a rolling distribution ? As an user (just plain user) i do not >> think that installing a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread SinnerBOFH
On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: > So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to > the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, > those that don't do not care enough. > -- > Michael Scherer +1 Majority of users do not want cho

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-02 Thread Nicolas Lécureuil
2010/10/2 Fabrice Facorat > 2010/10/1 Sinner from the Prairy : > > Fabrice Facorat wrote: > > > > But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the > > ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant. > > > > By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to b

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-10-02 Thread R James
On 9/26/10, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: > > As I said I would see someone with such hardware, taking a CD of latest MDV > or cooker and try to install to do something and do a report. > > That reminds me also one suggestion. If someone has old hardware that not > in use anymore then could be donated to

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-02 Thread Fabrice Facorat
2010/10/1 Sinner from the Prairy : > Fabrice Facorat wrote: > But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the > ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant. > > By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of > having 100% of

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-02 Thread Jérôme Martin
Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010, Olivier Méjean a écrit : > Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 08:51:34, atilla ontas a écrit : > > What's your opinion? > > What about a rolling distribution ? As an user (just plain user) i do not > think that installing a distribution is a goal, just a mean to use my > compu

Re: [Mageia-dev] So?

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 21:56 +0200, Remy CLOUARD a écrit : > On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 02:16:34AM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > > I may have forgot some parts, and some people, but I think that > > summarizing everything that was since a few days. Of course, you can > > also add the work of

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 23:16 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit : > Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 22:57:06, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : > > > > [...] > > > > i don't understand, if you click the applet every time there's an update, > > then when there's a new version, the you also click the applet a

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 20:03 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit : > What about a rolling distribution ? As an user (just plain user) i do not > think that installing a distribution is a goal, just a mean to use my > computer, so i wish i could not spend time installing a distribution every 6

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-02 Thread Mihai Dobrescu
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sinner from the Prairy < sinnerb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Fabrice Facorat wrote: > > > 2010/10/1 Romain d'Alverny > > : > (...) > >> Both (substance, appearance) are crucial. If you only consider one > >> without balancing, making it consistent with the other, you're

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Mihai Dobrescu
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Michael Scherer wrote: > People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, > those that don't do not care enough. > -- > Michael Scherer > > True, I'm just lazy, I will always use FF and I would have liked to have it setup at OS install. A choice from a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/2 Michael Scherer : > > So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to > the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, > those that don't do not care enough. Reasonable. Can also be applied to other such things like OOo (LO) vs koffice, kmail

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op zaterdag 02 oktober 2010 12:46:24 schreef Michael Scherer: > Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 13:53 -0300, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : [...] > So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to > the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, > those that

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-02 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 01 oktober 2010 23:35:28 schreef Olivier Méjean: > Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 23:25:50, Nicolas Lécureuil a écrit : > > 2010/10/1 Olivier Méjean > > > > > Le vendredi 1 octobre 2010 22:57:06, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > i don't understand, if you click the

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 22:26 -0400, David W. Hodgins a écrit : > On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:27:00 -0400, André Machado > wrote: > > > However, is that only one version per year - with updates of course - it > > would > > be best for you? > > Another option, that just occurred to me. Rolling

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 01 octobre 2010 à 13:53 -0300, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : > Why not to use something like this? > > http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg > > MS implemented it at Europe because they forced to. We could do it to > be more "democratic"? This dial

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-02 Thread nicolas vigier
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010, Olivier Méjean wrote: > Le samedi 2 octobre 2010 02:09:47, nicolas vigier a écrit : > > > > > This rolling release already exists, it's called the backport > > repository. But don't expect the same stability as the fixed release, > > you can't have both. > > > > Well, i di

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Dimitrios Glentadakis
2010/10/2 Mihai Dobrescu > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gustavo Giampaoli < > giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Why not to use something like this? >> >> >> http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg >> >> MS implemented it at Europe because they force

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-02 Thread Graham Lauder
On Saturday 02 Oct 2010 20:59:11 Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > 2010/10/2 Frank Griffin : > > They do the work because they benefit by it (or their > > vision of the distro benefits by it). > > And as soon as they have the feeling that they're wasting their time > they turn to something else. > > wobo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-02 Thread Mihai Dobrescu
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Gustavo Giampaoli < giampaoli.gust...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why not to use something like this? > > http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/02/19feb10ou2b4dsdvd.jpg > > MS implemented it at Europe because they forced to. We could do it to > be more "democra

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-10-02 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/2 Frank Griffin : > They do the work because they benefit by it (or their > vision of the distro benefits by it). And as soon as they have the feeling that they're wasting their time they turn to something else. wobo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Some news about project

2010-10-02 Thread Jean-Michel VARVOU
Le 02/10/2010 01:29, Anne nicolas a écrit : > Hi there > > Still a busy week in working on Mageia first setup. Here is a quick summary: > blog.mageia.org/?p=54 > > Cheers! > > --- > Anne A translation into French. It will be relayed on MLO. If you have any comments... "Compte tenu des proposi