Re: [Mageia-dev] maintainer groups

2010-10-25 Thread andre999
Ahmad Samir a écrit : On 25 October 2010 19:44, Michael Scherer wrote: Le lundi 25 octobre 2010 à 19:29 +0200, Luca Berra a écrit : this is a suggestion i already made with mandriva but it landed nowhere, let's try again. At the moment we have 1to1 relationship in all tools between

Re: [Mageia-dev] maintainer groups

2010-10-25 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 25 oktober 2010 19:29:18 schreef Luca Berra: > this is a suggestion i already made with mandriva but it landed nowhere, > let's try again. > > At the moment we have 1to1 relationship in all tools between maintainer > and package. But for some packages we have more than one people willin

Re: [Mageia-dev] maintainer groups

2010-10-25 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 25 October 2010 19:44, Michael Scherer wrote: > Le lundi 25 octobre 2010 à 19:29 +0200, Luca Berra a écrit : >> this is a suggestion i already made with mandriva but it landed nowhere, >> let's try again. >> >> At the moment we have 1to1 relationship in all tools between maintainer >> and packa

Re: [Mageia-dev] maintainer groups

2010-10-25 Thread Luca Berra
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:44:19PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: Le lundi 25 octobre 2010 à 19:29 +0200, Luca Berra a écrit : this would result that in case a ticket is opened in bugzilla vs package, all interested parties would be notified, and start working on a solution. (this might require a

Re: [Mageia-dev] maintainer groups

2010-10-25 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 25 octobre 2010 à 19:29 +0200, Luca Berra a écrit : > this is a suggestion i already made with mandriva but it landed nowhere, > let's try again. > > At the moment we have 1to1 relationship in all tools between maintainer > and package. But for some packages we have more than one people w

[Mageia-dev] maintainer groups

2010-10-25 Thread Luca Berra
this is a suggestion i already made with mandriva but it landed nowhere, let's try again. At the moment we have 1to1 relationship in all tools between maintainer and package. But for some packages we have more than one people willing to work on that package. Besides, for some critical package it

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/25 atilla ontas : > > Well. for those reasons: > > - [Mirror side] Waste of space (see discussions about mirrors; i know > you' re one of the mirror maintainer, don't you?) We have 6 different > types of Mandriva One isos. 2 for GNOME, 4 for KDE. 6x700MB=4200MB > extra space on every mirror

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread andre999
Ahmad Samir a écrit : On 25 October 2010 12:32, atilla ontas wrote: 2010/10/25 Ahmad Samir: And if there's no active internet connection at installation time? Ahmad Samir Well, they will use live environment in english after installation and install corresponding

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread atilla ontas
2010/10/25 Wolfgang Bornath : > What is so hard in keeping the Mandriva approach (2 / 3 different cds > with language groups)? If communicated sufficiently users will have no > problem to chose the correct version for their language. Mandriva > could have done that easily by adding a link to the "D

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/25 atilla ontas : > > I don' t agree, sorry. Live CDs are not demo assets for most of the > people other than europe or america. Their relatively small size and > installation capability make them an installation media for limited > internet users. Most people do not want to install a DVD.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread atilla ontas
2010/10/25 Wolfgang Bornath : > 2010/10/25 atilla ontas : >> >> 3- A dialog popup appears and asks if he/she wans to select language >> 4- If an active internet connection detected  notifies users that >> selected languge will downloaded from net otherwise user use live >> system in English. > > Th

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/25 atilla ontas : > > 3- A dialog popup appears and asks if he/she wans to select language > 4- If an active internet connection detected  notifies users that > selected languge will downloaded from net otherwise user use live > system in English. This is not a good idea. As mobile machin

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread atilla ontas
2010/10/25 Wolfgang Bornath : > That's not true. In all of those distros language selection comes > first in installation. I installed Ubuntu 10.10 from the normal live > cd without internet connection and language selection came first. Same > with openSUSE. I strongly recommend to keep language se

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/25 atilla ontas : > > Btw, ubuntu, opensuse, fedora etc. don't provide localized live cd > isos but they have their international and local communities. Don't > they? That's not true. In all of those distros language selection comes first in installation. I installed Ubuntu 10.10 from the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2010/10/25 Thorsten van Lil : > > First boot the Live version. You have to be asked which language you prefer, > than which keyboard layout you need and not till then you can setup the > wireless connection, otherwise unexperienced user may get serious problems. > After that all further dialogs c

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread atilla ontas
Then, let's expand propasal according to your critisms. What do you say about, only include english locale plus all locales just for drak tools? So, user selects F2 in grub screen then sees the warning in his/her native language that user should install corresponding locale package? Also, when i w

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread Thorsten van Lil
>2010/10/25 Thorsten van Lil : >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: mageia-dev-boun...@mageia.org [mailto:mageia-dev-boun...@mageia.org] Im >> Auftrag von atilla ontas >> >>> I propose to implement an Ubuntu like, install time or in live >>> enviroment language packs installing. How this s

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 25 October 2010 12:32, atilla ontas wrote: > 2010/10/25 Ahmad Samir : >>> >> >> And if there's no active internet connection at installation time? >> Ahmad Samir >> > > Well, they will use live environment in english after installation and > install corresponding package like normal package ins

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread rom1dep
2010/10/25 atilla ontas : > 2010/10/25 Ahmad Samir : >>> >> >> And if there's no active internet connection at installation time? >> Ahmad Samir >> > > Well, they will use live environment in english after installation and > install corresponding package like normal package installation. That's > a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread atilla ontas
2010/10/25 Ahmad Samir : >> > > And if there's no active internet connection at installation time? > Ahmad Samir > Well, they will use live environment in english after installation and install corresponding package like normal package installation. That's all. The situation in my proposal with no

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread Thorsten van Lil
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: mageia-dev-boun...@mageia.org [mailto:mageia-dev-boun...@mageia.org] Im Auftrag von atilla ontas > I propose to implement an Ubuntu like, install time or in live > enviroment language packs installing. How this should work? > > What do you think? As I insta

Re: [Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 25 October 2010 11:16, atilla ontas wrote: > I don't know if this proposal is even mentioned before. It's hard to > catch in all these posts. I think the main probem with Mandriva One > releases was lack of space. It will still a problem for Mageia Live CD > releases. Also, it is very cofusing

[Mageia-dev] Suggestion-Locales management for One (or Live) Cd releases

2010-10-25 Thread atilla ontas
I don't know if this proposal is even mentioned before. It's hard to catch in all these posts. I think the main probem with Mandriva One releases was lack of space. It will still a problem for Mageia Live CD releases. Also, it is very cofusing for Mandriva/Mageia newbies to determine which iso imag