[Mageia-dev] 19/01/2011 meeting

2011-01-19 Thread Anne nicolas
Hi there Next meeting will happen tonigh on #mageia-dev at 20h UTC. Here are our topics: - Review of build system and distro bootstrap - Proposal for mentoring process (wiki page will be updated today): review and comments - Review on current mentoring process and people concerned - Review on

Re: [Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy

2011-01-19 Thread philippe makowski
2011/1/19 Michael scherer m...@zarb.org: Because that would 1) requires a patch to rpm that we do not have or 2) patch all python packages to had %ghost on all *.pyc,  and do a compilation of *pyc ( the 2nd part is easy, the first one is slightly harder to automate ) 3) do not care about

Re: [Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy

2011-01-19 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:25:23 +0100 Michael scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: I'm not sure about twice the work: you don't need to track twice the software releases (except for the interpreter itself), or twice the upstream patches, etc. Well, if we handle this like 2 separates languages,

[Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread Olivier Blin
Hi, I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path (was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva) Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/ (some are in /usr/share/backgrounds/) Is everyone ok

Re: [Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread Donald Stewart
Donald Stewart On 19 January 2011 12:06, Olivier Blin mag...@blino.org wrote: Hi, I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path (was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva) Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in

Re: [Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax

2011-01-19 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 15 January 2011 12:08, Remy CLOUARD shikam...@mandriva.org wrote: Hi there, I just imported the RPM Spec File Syntax page in the wiki. It’s located here: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax Please review this page as it’s one of the most important one for the beginning of the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax

2011-01-19 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 17 January 2011 23:53, Florian Hubold doktor5...@arcor.de wrote: Am 15.01.2011 11:08, schrieb Remy CLOUARD: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax Please review this page as it’s one of the most important one for the beginning of the mentoring process, with the RPM Howto page (yet

Re: [Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 19 January 2011 15:02, Olivier Blin mag...@blino.org wrote: Remy CLOUARD shikam...@mandriva.org writes: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 01:06:49PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path (was

Re: [Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax

2011-01-19 Thread Michael scherer
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:44:35PM +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 15 January 2011 12:08, Remy CLOUARD shikam...@mandriva.org wrote: Hi there, I just imported the RPM Spec File Syntax page in the wiki. It’s located here: http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax Please review this

Re: [Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax

2011-01-19 Thread Thomas Backlund
Michael scherer skrev 19.1.2011 15:30: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:44:35PM +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 15 January 2011 12:08, Remy CLOUARDshikam...@mandriva.org wrote: Hi there, I just imported the RPM Spec File Syntax page in the wiki. It’s located here:

Re: [Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread Hoyt Duff
1. Leave them where they are for now (breaks less things) and 2. pursue standardization with freedesktop.org, then 3. adopt that standard. Done in three. -- Hoyt

Re: [Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread Olivier Blin
Hoyt Duff hoytd...@gmail.com writes: 1. Leave them where they are for now (breaks less things) and 2. pursue standardization with freedesktop.org, then 3. adopt that standard. Done in three. I wouldn't want to keep a path with mdk inside, even temporarily -- Olivier Blin - blino

Re: [Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread Hoyt Duff
I understand your sentiment. Given unlimited resources, it is an acceptable choice. I'm not advocating ignoring it. Nor am I saying it should continue unabated. I'm advocating a way to 'solve' the problem on a long-term basis with a minimum of hassle. As a matter of expediency, it does no harm

Re: [Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )

2011-01-19 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 19.01.2011 02:12, Michael scherer wrote: Hi, I will not be present at the packagers's meeting tonight, as I will likely be finishing the app installer meeting in Nuremberg ( transalte : discuss in a pub ). The wifi is expensive, and so I had to use ninja powers to get ssh access (

Re: [Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread Olivier Blin
Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com writes: I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path (was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva) Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/ (some are

Re: [Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread Donald Stewart
Actually, /usr/share/backgrounds seems pretty good, since gnome-control-center uses this directory by default I'll use this one temporarily. -- Olivier Blin - blino Then can KDE be patched to look there, packaging complimentary backgrounds will be far simpler then, 4 packages can be merged

[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]

2011-01-19 Thread Maarten Vanraes
I was looking to help and found spec-helper to be (hopefully) one of the easier ones left: - there's still some java stuff, which i assume dmorgan (and hopefully some help) is going to take care of. - there's rpm stuff - and seemingly alot of duplicates in mdv and mga list. so, this one was

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Ruby packaging policy

2011-01-19 Thread Remy CLOUARD
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 01:49:30AM +0100, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 07 janvier 2011 à 23:45 +0100, Remy CLOUARD a écrit : You can find the page here: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Ruby [...] This cause problem since we do have rpm present twice ( without people noticing, as

[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft

2011-01-19 Thread Pascal Terjan
http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid says - README: Some reference to the Mandriva mailing list and bugzilla will need to be changed to Mageia ones Do we really want to? What is the point? I think we can package this tool as-is, as a tool provided by Mandriva like if we

Re: [Mageia-dev] On importing /soft

2011-01-19 Thread nicolas vigier
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Pascal Terjan wrote: http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid says - README: Some reference to the Mandriva mailing list and bugzilla will need to be changed to Mageia ones Do we really want to? What is the point? I think we can package this tool

Re: [Mageia-dev] On importing /soft

2011-01-19 Thread Angelo Naselli
If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no reason in importing it into our svn Do you mean to avoid importing the source code to modify it? If so, i agree, we can just import it as source package like

Re: [Mageia-dev] On importing /soft

2011-01-19 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/1/19 Angelo Naselli anase...@linux.it: If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no reason in importing it into our svn Do you mean to avoid importing the source code to modify it? If so, i agree,

Re: [Mageia-dev] On importing /soft

2011-01-19 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 19 januari 2011 21:32:13 schreef Pascal Terjan: http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid says - README: Some reference to the Mandriva mailing list and bugzilla will need to be changed to Mageia ones Do we really want to? What is the point? I think we can

Re: [Mageia-dev] On importing /soft

2011-01-19 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 21:13, Angelo Naselli anase...@linux.it wrote: If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no reason in importing it into our svn Do you mean to avoid importing the source code to

Re: [Mageia-dev] On importing /soft

2011-01-19 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 21:33, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: Op woensdag 19 januari 2011 21:32:13 schreef Pascal Terjan: http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid says - README: Some reference to the Mandriva mailing list and bugzilla will need to be

Re: [Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]

2011-01-19 Thread Olivier Blin
Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com writes: except, is spec-helper one of the patches ones too? Buildrequires will have to be changed to perl(IPC::Run3) instead of perl(IPC::Run), so my question is: Do i patch this to run with IPC::Run3 ? or is this to be forked? Why can't you keep

Re: [Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]

2011-01-19 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 19 januari 2011 23:33:10 schreef Olivier Blin: Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com writes: except, is spec-helper one of the patches ones too? Buildrequires will have to be changed to perl(IPC::Run3) instead of perl(IPC::Run), so my question is: Do i patch this to

Re: [Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]

2011-01-19 Thread Olivier Blin
Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com writes: Op woensdag 19 januari 2011 23:33:10 schreef Olivier Blin: Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com writes: except, is spec-helper one of the patches ones too? Buildrequires will have to be changed to perl(IPC::Run3) instead of

Re: [Mageia-dev] background and theme path

2011-01-19 Thread J.A. Magallón
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:53:08 +0100, Remy CLOUARD shikam...@mandriva.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 01:06:49PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote: Hi, I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path (was