Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Olivier Thauvin
* P. Christeas (p_chr...@hol.gr) wrote: On Sunday 20 February 2011, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Hi What do you think about switching from defaulting to installing on raw partitions to lvm installing on LVs like fedora does ? I vote against that. (=to be enabled by default) LVM is fine

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Michael Scherer
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:51:31 +0200, P. Christeas wrote: On Sunday 20 February 2011, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Hi What do you think about switching from defaulting to installing on raw partitions to lvm installing on LVs like fedora does ? I vote against that. (=to be enabled by default) LVM

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Another part of the discussion may be the fact that a large number of users are running dual (or multiple) boot systems, keeping the pre-installed Windows and adding Linux. Others will have Windows and Mandriva, adding Mageia. While LVM may be nice if you are running one OS on one harddisk, it

Re: [Mageia-dev] please keep note of missing dependancies

2011-02-21 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 23:52, Balcaen John balcaen.j...@gmail.com wrote: Le dimanche 20 février 2011 20:23:30, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Hi, Now and then, i'm refreshing http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/ and sometimes i notice the missing dependancies increasing... [...] Maybe we should in

Re: [Mageia-dev] please keep note of missing dependancies

2011-02-21 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 21 februari 2011 12:10:36 schreef Pascal Terjan: On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 23:52, Balcaen John balcaen.j...@gmail.com wrote: Le dimanche 20 février 2011 20:23:30, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Hi, Now and then, i'm refreshing http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/ and sometimes i notice the

Re: [Mageia-dev] please keep note of missing dependancies

2011-02-21 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: Op maandag 21 februari 2011 12:10:36 schreef Pascal Terjan: On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 23:52, Balcaen John balcaen.j...@gmail.com wrote: Le dimanche 20 février 2011 20:23:30, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Hi, Now

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Angelo Naselli
lunedì 21 febbraio 2011 alle 10:36, Thierry Vignaud ha scritto: Those who don't want LVM could still do manual partitionning. ... and viceversa... those who know what they're doing could choose LVM Angelo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Angelo Naselli
lunedì 21 febbraio 2011 alle 12:41, Maarten Vanraes ha scritto: I think we ALL agree on LVM being present in diskdrake during installation. As far as i know is in (at least in Mandriva). I, for install, installed a 2009.1 with LVM in a system in which i had only 2 4Gb disks. Angelo

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread P. Christeas
On Monday 21 February 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: I think we ALL agree on LVM being present in diskdrake during installation. However, alot of things can go wrong if a user fiddles with those, so i would keep it hidden under expert mode (not by default). Agreed. Being there, and being

Re: [Mageia-dev] please keep note of missing dependancies

2011-02-21 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 21 februari 2011 12:45:58 schreef Dexter Morgan: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote: Op maandag 21 februari 2011 12:10:36 schreef Pascal Terjan: On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 23:52, Balcaen John balcaen.j...@gmail.com wrote: Le

Re: [Mageia-dev] please keep note of missing dependancies

2011-02-21 Thread Balcaen John
Le lundi 21 février 2011 04:46:10, Michael Scherer a écrit : On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:52:08 -0300, Balcaen John wrote: Le dimanche 20 février 2011 20:23:30, Maarten Vanraes a écrit : Hi, Now and then, i'm refreshing http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/ and sometimes i notice the missing

Re: [Mageia-dev] So, you want to become a mageia packager

2011-02-21 Thread Eatdirt
On 19/02/11 21:18, Remy CLOUARD wrote: So how to get started ? --- Well, there are several things you can already do. First, I suggest you to join #mageia-mentoring so that you can ask any question you’d like to people who are already packagers. Don’t hesitate to ask

Re: [Mageia-dev] So, you want to become a mageia packager

2011-02-21 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/2/21 Eatdirt dirt...@gmail.com: What's this #mageia-mentoring, IRC stuff? It is an IRC channel where you will find packagers who will help you along with packaging problems. I am a complete incompetent in terms of packaging, but I know how to download a source.tar.gz and compile it the

Re: [Mageia-dev] So, you want to become a mageia packager

2011-02-21 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 21 februari 2011 18:42:47 schreef Eatdirt: On 19/02/11 21:18, Remy CLOUARD wrote: So how to get started ? --- Well, there are several things you can already do. First, I suggest you to join #mageia-mentoring so that you can ask any question you’d

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Hoyt Duff
I think moving to LVM as the default will create too many complaints and support requests in the end. I found it an annoyance in Fedora as a regular user. -- Hoyt

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Buchan Milne
On Monday, 21 February 2011 18:56:22 Jeff Robins wrote: Michael Scherer wrote: For a linux system, a lvm logical volume is just another disk. I've had issues in the past because Linux considered LVM just one logical disk and I think the average user would eventually have the same problem

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Buchan Milne
On Monday, 21 February 2011 14:19:23 Michael Scherer wrote: Le lundi 21 février 2011 à 10:56 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : Another part of the discussion may be the fact that a large number of users are running dual (or multiple) boot systems, keeping the pre-installed Windows and

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Buchan Milne
On Monday, 21 February 2011 11:49:27 Thomas Lottmann wrote: I am still not convinced of how easy this can be. For having attempted to manage (and learn) how to manage LVM partitons with CentOS, it is quite complicated. So it certainly has many advantages, but I'm awaiting an intuitive disk

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 21 février 2011 à 22:48 +0200, Buchan Milne a écrit : On Monday, 21 February 2011 14:19:23 Michael Scherer wrote: and the same goes for os x. I thought Mac OS X had ext2/ext3 read support? Not on my version ( or it didn't work out of the box ). -- Michael Scherer

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/2/21 Buchan Milne bgmi...@staff.telkomsa.net: On Monday, 21 February 2011 11:49:27 Thomas Lottmann wrote: I am still not convinced of how easy this can be. For having attempted to manage (and learn) how to manage LVM partitons with CentOS, it is quite complicated. So it certainly has many

Re: [Mageia-dev] time to switch from raw partitions to lvm?

2011-02-21 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mardi 22 février 2011 à 03:36 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2011/2/21 Buchan Milne bgmi...@staff.telkomsa.net: On Monday, 21 February 2011 11:49:27 Thomas Lottmann wrote: I am still not convinced of how easy this can be. For having attempted to manage (and learn) how to manage LVM