[Mageia-dev] How can I propose new packages and my involvement, i.e. maintaining them?

2011-06-22 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
Folks, It's not clear to me how things are going with mentoring and stuff, but here we go: I have made a few packages for Cauldron, and for the time being I've established a personal tiny repo (32-bit only + SRPMs) with them, so they could be tested and updated. It all started with https://b

Re: [Mageia-dev] How can I propose new packages and my involvement, i.e. maintaining them?

2011-06-22 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/6/22 Radu-Cristian FOTESCU > Folks, > > > It's not clear to me how things are going with mentoring and stuff, but > here we go: I have made a few packages for Cauldron, and for the time being > I've established a personal tiny repo (32-bit only + SRPMs) with them, so > they could be tested a

Re: [Mageia-dev] How can I propose new packages and my involvement, i.e. maintaining them?

2011-06-22 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
>Here are some wiki page to read about mentoring process:  >http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging&s[]=mentor#packagers_organization >http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging&s[]=mentor#resources >http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring >and >http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php

Re: [Mageia-dev] How can I propose new packages and my involvement, i.e. maintaining them?

2011-06-22 Thread Anne nicolas
2011/6/22 Radu-Cristian FOTESCU > > >Here are some wiki page to read about mentoring process: > > > http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging&s[]=mentor#packagers_organization > >http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging&s[]=mentor#resources > >http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_me

[Mageia-dev] Update of mesa to git version

2011-06-22 Thread Balcaen John
Le mercredi 22 juin 2011 08:45:44, r...@mageia.org a écrit : > Revision: 112356 > Author: mikala > Date: 2011-06-22 13:45:43 +0200 (Wed, 22 Jun 2011) > Log Message: > --- > Use git tarball (snapshot of 20110620) (which can really help gnome- shell...) > - Enable gallium drivers (for r

Re: [Mageia-dev] How can I propose new packages and my involvement, i.e. maintaining them?

2011-06-22 Thread Angelo Naselli
mercoledì 22 giugno 2011 alle 10:42, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU ha scritto: > Now, is there any chance that: [...] > (ii) myself be accepted as a contributor / package maintainer for Mandriva? Mageia i guess :p Welcome aboard, i do hope you can enjoy our open community :) Angelo signature.asc Descri

Re: [Mageia-dev] How can I propose new packages and my involvement, i.e. maintaining them?

2011-06-22 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
>> (ii) myself be accepted as a contributor / package maintainer for Mandriva? >Mageia i guess :p OMFG. (Although, to be frank, MDV's story is a sad one. Now whatever is important seems to need to be done by Dodonov, and mdv 2011's release is sliding, and sliding, and sliding... so much that th

Re: [Mageia-dev] How can I propose new packages and my involvement, i.e. maintaining them?

2011-06-22 Thread Daniel Kreuter
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: > >> (ii) myself be accepted as a contributor / package maintainer for > Mandriva? > >Mageia i guess :p > > > OMFG. (Although, to be frank, MDV's story is a sad one. Now whatever is > important seems to need to be done by Dodonov, and

[Mageia-dev] gcc compiler error

2011-06-22 Thread José Jorge
hi, I have a compiler error in cauldron build system building scourge, which does not happen in my system (Mageia 1 i586). constants.cpp:749:6: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for i

[Mageia-dev] gcc compiler error

2011-06-22 Thread Listes (José Jorge)
hi, I have a compiler error in cauldron build system building scourge, which does not happen in my system (Mageia 1 i586). constants.cpp:749:6: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See for

[Mageia-dev] libproxy vs biarch & libexecdir

2011-06-22 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
hi, I'm trying to make sense of libproxy packaging. It consists of a regular library and several modules. Currently, the library follows policy but the module packages are named libproxy-foo, so they have the same name on x86 and x86-64: i586x86-64 description ==

Re: [Mageia-dev] gcc compiler error

2011-06-22 Thread Funda Wang
I think gcc 4.6 hasn't landed yet. 2011/6/22 Listes (José Jorge) : > hi, I have a compiler error in cauldron build system building scourge, which > does not happen in my system (Mageia 1 i586). > > constants.cpp:749:6: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault > > Please submit a full bug report

Re: [Mageia-dev] libproxy vs biarch & libexecdir

2011-06-22 Thread Funda Wang
2011/6/22 Christiaan Welvaart : > - the helper app (?) pxgsettings is put in libexecdir by upstream, so >  IMHO it should be in /usr/lib or /usr/libexec, not %{_libdir} which >  %{_libexecdir} expands to. %_libexecdir expands to %_libdir, for years since mandrake.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release valgrind-3.6.1-3.mga2

2011-06-22 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 22.06.2011 07:40, schrieb Ahmad Samir: On 20 June 2011 11:24, Thierry Vignaud wrote: On 7 June 2011 16:10, Mageia Team wrote: dmorgan 3.6.1-3.mga1: + Revision: 101519 - Provide devel subpackage ( partial merge of mdv commit 659516) As always, when one moves files between subpackages or

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

2011-06-22 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 16.06.2011 17:14, schrieb Sander Lepik: 16.06.2011 17:18, Daniel Kreuter kirjutas: Ok Mozilla has the RC1 released. Final shall come on Tuesday 21st June so yeah we will include that in Mageia 2 I think (as least this one, maybe FF6 or 7 depending on which version will be available i think)

[Mageia-dev] Update of mesa to git version

2011-06-22 Thread Philippe DIDIER
I also disable the mesa glut build in the same change since (if i'm not wrong) we're supposed to move to freeglut instead. Thierry Vignaud is certainly the one that is aware about freeglut versus GLUT ! He is the one that may say if you are right or wrong to do so now ! Beware of the fact

Re: [Mageia-dev] Update of mesa to git version

2011-06-22 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 22 June 2011 19:54, Philippe DIDIER wrote: >>  I also disable the mesa glut build in the same change since (if i'm not >> wrong) >>  we're supposed to move to freeglut instead. > > > Thierry Vignaud is certainly the one that is aware about freeglut versus > GLUT ! He is the one that may say if

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release valgrind-3.6.1-3.mga2

2011-06-22 Thread nicolas vigier
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Florian Hubold wrote: > Am 22.06.2011 07:40, schrieb Ahmad Samir: >> On 20 June 2011 11:24, Thierry Vignaud wrote: >>> On 7 June 2011 16:10, Mageia Team wrote: dmorgan 3.6.1-3.mga1: + Revision: 101519 - Provide devel subpackage ( partial merge of mdv commit

[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting

2011-06-22 Thread Anne nicolas
Very late mail but here are the topics for tonight's meeting on #mageia-dev at 19h UTC - quick reminder about current brainstorms: release cycle, specs - incoming ARM port - review on secteam current work - reminder on QA needs - review on mentoring process Cheers -- Anne http://www.mageia.org

Re: [Mageia-dev] Update of mesa to git version

2011-06-22 Thread andre999
Philippe DIDIER a écrit : I also disable the mesa glut build in the same change since (if i'm not wrong) we're supposed to move to freeglut instead. Thierry Vignaud is certainly the one that is aware about freeglut versus GLUT ! He is the one that may say if you are right or wrong to do so n

Re: [Mageia-dev] Update of mesa to git version

2011-06-22 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, andre999 wrote: Philippe DIDIER a écrit : I also disable the mesa glut build in the same change since (if i'm not wrong) we're supposed to move to freeglut instead. Thierry Vignaud is certainly the one that is aware about freeglut versus GLUT ! He is the one that may s

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release valgrind-3.6.1-3.mga2

2011-06-22 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 22 June 2011 20:18, nicolas vigier wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Florian Hubold wrote: > >> Am 22.06.2011 07:40, schrieb Ahmad Samir: >>> On 20 June 2011 11:24, Thierry Vignaud  wrote: On 7 June 2011 16:10, Mageia Team  wrote: > dmorgan  3.6.1-3.mga1: > + Revision: 101519 > - P

[Mageia-dev] Update of mesa to git version

2011-06-22 Thread Philippe DIDIER
/ And if both glut and freeglut were installed,/ Libfreeglut3.rpm and libmesaglut3.rpm can't be installed side by side : they install the same link "glut.so.3" to glut.so.3.9.0 for the first or glut.so.3.7.0 for the second... fortunately libfreeglut3.rpm obsoletes libmesaglut3.rpm Libfreeg

Re: [Mageia-dev] get-skype package for submission

2011-06-22 Thread Angelo Naselli
> > Maybe more something like task-mageia-packaging? > > That sounds better :) It depend on what you want to put inside i believe, if only rpm stuff... then yes :) -- Angelo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release transcode-1.1.5-5.mga2.tainted

2011-06-22 Thread Dick Gevers
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:28:18 +0200 (CEST), Mageia Team wrote about [RPM] cauldron tainted/release transcode-1.1.5-5.mga2.tainted: >Name: transcodeRelocations: (not relocatable) >Version : 1.1.5 Vendor: Mageia.Org >Release : 5.mga2.tai

[Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
I'm known to be grumpy and difficult, but I also believe in simplicity as a policy, therefore I'd like to ask you something. By no means I want to question Ahmad's judgment, however I strongly disagree with him on one point. As a _principle_. Otherwise, it's a tiny punctual question, but I'd li

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread John Balcaen
2011/6/22 Radu-Cristian FOTESCU : > I'm known to be grumpy and difficult, but I also believe in simplicity as a > policy, therefore I'd like to ask you something. > > By no means I want to question Ahmad's judgment, however I strongly disagree > with him on one point. As a _principle_. Otherwise,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
> We don't have any python2 symlink or binary on mageia. That was not the question. The question was whether '/usr/bin/env python2' should be patched into '/usr/bin/env python' or into '/usr/bin/python'. The more general question was whether all the upstream packages should be "optimized". Wh

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release transcode-1.1.5-5.mga2.tainted

2011-06-22 Thread Oliver Burger
Dick Gevers schrieb am 22.06.2011 > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:28:18 +0200 (CEST), Mageia Team wrote about > [RPM] > > cauldron tainted/release transcode-1.1.5-5.mga2.tainted: > >Name: transcodeRelocations: (not > >relocatable) Version : 1.1.5

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 22 June 2011 22:47, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: > I'm known to be grumpy and difficult, but I also believe in simplicity as a > policy, therefore I'd like to ask you something. > > By no means I want to question Ahmad's judgment, however I strongly disagree > with him on one point. As a _pri

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 22 June 2011 23:14, Ahmad Samir wrote: > On 22 June 2011 22:47, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: >> I'm known to be grumpy and difficult, but I also believe in simplicity as a >> policy, therefore I'd like to ask you something. >> >> By no means I want to question Ahmad's judgment, however I stro

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
> Actually, I said that the shebang should be removed altogether. Which > is what was being done all those years calibre existed in the Mandriva > repos (the same for Fedora, since they do remove the shebang, as the > calibre spec was originally imported from Fedora, which I said in the > report

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 22 juni 2011 22:47:40 schreef Radu-Cristian FOTESCU: > I would say that the general principle should be to apply a _minimal_ > patching, not to try to rewrite the work of the developers of hundreds of > packages! > > A distro's job is not to judge the work of the _upstream_ developers

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
> Also, /usr/bin/python2 doesn't exist to begin with, as mikala pointed out. As I "repointed", the question was not that one. As long as calibre has used env with python, not python2, it worked. Now that the developer changed that, the least intrusive way would be to just remove the "2". I pe

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread nicolas vigier
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: > > A distro's job is not to judge the work of the _upstream_ developers as long > as this is not a real bug. But it's to integrate software, and apply common policy to all of them.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
>> A distro's job is not to judge the work of the _upstream_ developers as > long as this is not a real bug. > > But it's to integrate software, and apply common policy to all of them. ok, say a distro has 200 packages that use python, for a total of 20,000 *.py files. now what, the limite

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread David W. Hodgins
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:47:40 -0400, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: As long as '/usr/bin/env python' _works_, I see no point in trying to rewrite other people's work. Excluding the calibre scripts, in /usr/bin of a Mageia 1 kde clean installation ... # grep -I python *|grep '#!'|grep env eboo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 22/06/11 22:51 did gyre and gimble: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:47:40 -0400, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU > wrote: > >> As long as '/usr/bin/env python' _works_, I see no point in trying to >> rewrite other people's work. > > Excluding the calibre scripts, in /usr/bi

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 22 juni 2011 23:51:02 schreef David W. Hodgins: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:47:40 -0400, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: > > As long as '/usr/bin/env python' _works_, I see no point in trying to > > rewrite other people's work. > > Excluding the calibre scripts, in /usr/bin of a Mageia 1 k

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release telepathy-glib-0.15.2-1.mga2

2011-06-22 Thread John Balcaen
2011/6/22 Mageia Team : > Name        : telepathy-glib               Relocations: (not relocatable) > Version     : 0.15.2                            Vendor: Mageia.Org > Release     : 1.mga2                        Build Date: Wed Jun 22 22:02:17 > 2011 > Install Date: (not installed)            

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread David W. Hodgins
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:08:35 -0400, Colin Guthrie wrote: 2) /usr/bin/python prevents you testing easily with a new python version (or just a new build) in a custom prefix). Running something like "/usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/calibre" ignores the shebang, so it's still easy to test with a dif

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 22 juin 2011 à 23:08 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > 'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 22/06/11 22:51 did gyre and gimble: > > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:47:40 -0400, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU > > wrote: > > > >> As long as '/usr/bin/env python' _works_, I see no point in trying to > >>

Re: [Mageia-dev] Minimal patching vs. fixing the whole Universe

2011-06-22 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 22 juin 2011 à 14:39 -0700, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU a écrit : > > >> A distro's job is not to judge the work of the _upstream_ developers as > > long as this is not a real bug. > > > > But it's to integrate software, and apply common policy to all of them. > > > ok, say a distro has

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release telepathy-glib-0.15.2-1.mga2

2011-06-22 Thread
2011/6/23 John Balcaen : > 2011/6/22 Mageia Team : >> Name        : telepathy-glib               Relocations: (not relocatable) >> Version     : 0.15.2                            Vendor: Mageia.Org >> Release     : 1.mga2                        Build Date: Wed Jun 22 22:02:17 >> 2011 >> Install Da

Re: [Mageia-dev] libproxy vs biarch & libexecdir

2011-06-22 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 22 juin 2011 à 23:54 +0800, Funda Wang a écrit : > 2011/6/22 Christiaan Welvaart : > > - the helper app (?) pxgsettings is put in libexecdir by upstream, so > > IMHO it should be in /usr/lib or /usr/libexec, not %{_libdir} which > > %{_libexecdir} expands to. > %_libexecdir expands to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

2011-06-22 Thread andre999
andre999 a écrit : Michael Scherer a écrit : Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 23:49 -0400, andre999 a écrit : Michael Scherer a écrit : Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 03:38 -0400, andre999 a écrit : Michael Scherer a écrit : If people work the same amount of time, with work divided on 2 products, they

Re: [Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

2011-06-22 Thread andre999
sorry, I forgot to strip off everything at the beginning ... so if you could ignore the previous email andre999 a écrit : I'd like to consolidate and clarify my ideas regarding an amended freeze process, taking into account the critiques. That is, that for the freeze which leads to the release,

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release telepathy-glib-0.15.2-1.mga2

2011-06-22 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 23 June 2011 03:54, Zé wrote: >> I made an error here while updating telepathy-glib. >> Bolkm has been kind enough to remove this file from repository. >> the 0.14.8 should be soon available on mirrors so could you please >> replace the lib(64)telepathy-glib0-0.15.2-1.mga2 from your >> installa

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

2011-06-22 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 22 June 2011 19:41, Florian Hubold wrote: >> Well, it's quite possible that we have to include that in Mageia 1 as >> well, as this will be security update for Firefox 4. If we don't want to >> patch every CVE then we have to include it into Mageia 1 as well.. >> >> > Would be nice to know, if

Re: [Mageia-dev] Firefox 5

2011-06-22 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > On 22 June 2011 19:41, Florian Hubold wrote: >>> Well, it's quite possible that we have to include that in Mageia 1 as >>> well, as this will be security update for Firefox 4. If we don't want to >>> patch every CVE then we have to include