Re: [Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Systemd or not systemd

2011-07-17 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 16 juillet 2011 à 16:37 +0200, Olivier Blin a écrit : Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org writes: People on Fedora list were quite reluctant to changes ( to say the least ), and I am pretty sure that someone will hit a unrelated corner case in the last minute. Rtp was not really fond

Re: [Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy

2011-07-17 Thread philippe makowski
2011/7/16 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org: Either 2 rpms with the same source, or 1 rpm that generate 2 sub rpms. I would rather use 2 separate rpms, as this seems to be easier. I see, so really treating python2 and python 3 as 2 differents languages why not, that will increase the number of

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with udev in kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop

2011-07-17 Thread Jeff Robins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/16/2011 07:42 PM, Eugeni Dodonov wrote: If you boot without the 'splash=silent' parameter to kernel, does it says where exactly it stops? I will reboot and remove the parameter later. I simply hit ESC when I saw the splash screen and

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with udev in kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop

2011-07-17 Thread Jeff Robins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/17/2011 02:02 AM, Jeff Robins wrote: I will reboot and remove the parameter later. I simply hit ESC when I saw the splash screen and watched the output. I rebooted without the parameter and the results are the same. However, I found out

Re: [Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron

2011-07-17 Thread Daniel Kreuter
Am 16.07.2011 13:29, schrieb Radu-Cristian FOTESCU: it is. normally, when an update pushes a totally new kernel, it should make sure GRUB still has an entry with the previous kernel. no, not failsafe with the latest kernel, but just the previous working kernel. with either of Mageia 1 and

Re: [Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron

2011-07-17 Thread Kira
在 Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:56:52 +0800, Daniel Kreuter daniel.kreute...@googlemail.com寫道: I totally agree with that. The normal behaviour should be that the old kernel stays in the list for a while so if the new one fails you will still be able to boot your system. Do you have the same

Re: [Mageia-dev] Adobe Flash player 11 Beta 1 in Cauldron

2011-07-17 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 16.07.2011 15:17, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 16 July 2011 14:02, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 July 2011 11:11, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote: On 15.07.2011 11:10, Ahmad Samir wrote: Hello. As you've seen the thread, posted by Charles A Edwards, there's a new

Re: [Mageia-dev] After last update net applet shows wrong status

2011-07-17 Thread Thomas Backlund
Oliver Burger skrev 16.7.2011 19:20: 2011/7/16 Wolfgang Bornathmolc...@googlemail.com: Confirmed here as well. But it must be related to kernel change. Booting with previous kernel = wifi works, booting with new kernel = wifi does not work (The chip is recognized and I see the available access

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with udev in kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop

2011-07-17 Thread Thomas Backlund
Jeff Robins skrev 17.7.2011 04:26: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello, I updated my system and it installed the latest kernel (2.6.38.8-desktop). When I rebooted the system it hung when starting udev. I shut down the system after 1 minute. When I booted into kernel

Re: [Mageia-dev] Adobe Flash player 11 Beta 1 in Cauldron

2011-07-17 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 17 July 2011 13:09, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote: On 16.07.2011 15:17, Ahmad Samir wrote: On 16 July 2011 14:02, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 July 2011 11:11, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote: On 15.07.2011 11:10, Ahmad Samir wrote: Hello. As

Re: [Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron

2011-07-17 Thread Thomas Backlund
Radu-Cristian FOTESCU skrev 16.7.2011 13:47: tmb, I hate you. making kernel-desktop-latest to point to kernel-desktop-3.0.0-0.rc7.2.1.mga2 instead of kernel-desktop-devel-2.6.38.8-5.mga2 was a big mistake. Nope. It was intended, planned, tested and announced before:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with udev in kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop

2011-07-17 Thread Brian Smith
On Sunday 17 July 2011 15:02:09 Thomas Backlund wrote: Ouch, Can you try kernel-linus-2.6.38.8-1 to rule out (or not) additional patches in core kernel... -- Thomas Bug 1954 https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1954 Sounds like the same bug I reported against in Cauldren with

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk+2.0-2.24.5-6.mga2

2011-07-17 Thread Balcaen John
On Sunday 17 July 2011 14:02:59 Christiaan Welvaart wrote: [...] Orphan packages (without a src.rpm in the repository) should be removed automatically after a few days, we have talked about this before. Maybe you should file a bug report about it if there isn't any yet. Well i asked because

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release gtk+2.0-2.24.5-6.mga2

2011-07-17 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011, Balcaen John wrote: On Sunday 17 July 2011 14:02:59 Christiaan Welvaart wrote: [...] Orphan packages (without a src.rpm in the repository) should be removed automatically after a few days, we have talked about this before. Maybe you should file a bug report about it if

Re: [Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron

2011-07-17 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
and both i586 and x86_64 kernels were tested on a i7-860 workstation and on a Acer TravelMate 5720  laptop before submitting to the buildsystem... tmb, for the Wi-Fi issue, I identified the culprit. With the 2.6.38 kernel, dkms-broadcom-wl was useless (Broadcom STA is a hybrid driver,

[Mageia-dev] latest xorg unusable on laptop: no mouse/keyboard

2011-07-17 Thread Jerome Quelin
hi, i updated my cauldron box and when booting to runlevel 5, mouse + keyboard are unusable: they don't work at all. i have a usb mouse that doesn't work either - but unplugging it + replugging it makes it work. since i have a laptop, i cannot unplug keyboard + touchpad and then replug them.

Re: [Mageia-dev] latest xorg unusable on laptop: no mouse/keyboard

2011-07-17 Thread Jerome Quelin
On 11/07/17 18:04 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote: i updated my cauldron box and when booting to runlevel 5, mouse + keyboard are unusable: they don't work at all. i have a usb mouse that doesn't work either - but unplugging it + replugging it makes it work. since i have a laptop, i cannot unplug

Re: [Mageia-dev] Adobe Flash player 11 Beta 1 in Cauldron

2011-07-17 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 17 juillet 2011 à 11:49 +0100, Margot a écrit : So, if someone *from Mageia* is prepared to support 64-bit Flash 11 - including providing simple instructions for uninstalling it if it proves to cause problems or is a security risk - then I can see no reason why it should not be

Re: [Mageia-dev] Adobe Flash player 11 Beta 1 in Cauldron

2011-07-17 Thread Florian Hubold
Am 16.07.2011 11:11, schrieb Anssi Hannula: On 15.07.2011 11:10, Ahmad Samir wrote: Hello. As you've seen the thread, posted by Charles A Edwards, there's a new version of flash which has native 64bit support, it's still in beta but seems to work well, some questions: - Any objections about

Re: [Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron

2011-07-17 Thread JA Magallón
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 07:37:26 -0700 (PDT), Radu-Cristian FOTESCU beranger...@yahoo.ca wrote: and both i586 and x86_64 kernels were tested on a i7-860 workstation and on a Acer TravelMate 5720  laptop before submitting to the buildsystem... There is no forcing... the old kernel is still

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release flash-player-plugin11-11.0.1.60-0.b1.071311.1.mga2.nonfree

2011-07-17 Thread JA Magallón
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:06:12 +0200 (CEST), Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote: Name: flash-player-plugin11Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 11.0.1.60 Vendor: Mageia.Org Release : 0.b1.071311.1.mga2.nonfreeBuild Date: Sun

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release flash-player-plugin11-11.0.1.60-0.b1.071311.1.mga2.nonfree

2011-07-17 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:04:46 +0200 JA Magallón jamagal...@ono.com wrote: Why does it try to pull phonon and half KDE ? Because in addition to the needed libflashplayer.so the adobe installer includes /usr/share/kde4/services/kcm_adobe_flash_player.desktop not to mention icons, a generic

Re: [Mageia-dev] cauldron core/release gnome-keyring-3.1.1-3.mga2

2011-07-17 Thread Jani Välimaa
2011/7/17 Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org: Mageia Team skrev 17.7.2011 21:41: Name        : gnome-keyring                Relocations: (not relocatable) Version     : 3.1.1                             Vendor: Mageia.Org Release     : 3.mga2                        Build Date: Sun Jul 17

[Mageia-dev] How to push new packages to Mageia 1 updates_testing

2011-07-17 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Hi, I wanted to share the method I use when I need to push a new package (new = missing from Mageia 1) from cauldron to Mageia 1 updates. This concerns only packages available in Mandriva 2010.2 but absent from Mageia 1. I'm sharing for 2 reasons : - maybe I'm doing it wrong, so you can comment

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release flash-player-plugin11-11.0.1.60-0.b1.071311.1.mga2.nonfree

2011-07-17 Thread Kira
在 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 05:39:25 +0800, Charles A Edwards c...@eslrahc.com寫道: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 23:04:46 +0200 JA Magallón jamagal...@ono.com wrote: Why does it try to pull phonon and half KDE ? Because in addition to the needed libflashplayer.so the adobe installer includes

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release flash-player-plugin11-11.0.1.60-0.b1.071311.1.mga2.nonfree

2011-07-17 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 18.07.2011 00:04, JA Magallón wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:06:12 +0200 (CEST), Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote: Name: flash-player-plugin11Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 11.0.1.60 Vendor: Mageia.Org Release :

[Mageia-dev] [Mageia 2 specifications] Wiki page

2011-07-17 Thread D.Morgan
Hello, i have started a wiki page to list the features that have been allowed for Mageia 2. http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=featuresmageia2 Please update it by only with features accepted for mageia 2. For each feature you can create a page that we can link in the featuresmageia2 page.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release flash-player-plugin11-11.0.1.60-0.b1.071311.1.mga2.nonfree

2011-07-17 Thread Kira
在 Mon, 18 Jul 2011 06:48:14 +0800, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi寫道: Fixed and resubmitted, thanks. Oops..If you removes the dependency, then the KCM module would failed. Error message: Unable to load /usr/lib64/kde4/kcm_adobe_flash_player.so:(libkutils.so.4:...) --- I'm using

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with udev in kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop

2011-07-17 Thread Jeff Robins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/17/2011 05:02 AM, Thomas Backlund wrote: Can you try kernel-linus-2.6.38.8-1 to rule out (or not) additional patches in core kernel... -- Thomas It still happens with the vanilla kernel. Also, the vanilla kernel doesn't like my dual

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with udev in kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop

2011-07-17 Thread Jeff Robins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/17/2011 06:20 AM, Brian Smith wrote: Bug 1954 https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1954 Sounds like the same bug I reported against in Cauldren with 2.6.38.8 I can confirm not seeing the bug here under 2.6.38.7 and having updated

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release flash-player-plugin11-11.0.1.60-0.b1.071311.1.mga2.nonfree

2011-07-17 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 18 July 2011 00:48, Anssi Hannula anssi.hann...@iki.fi wrote: On 18.07.2011 00:04, JA Magallón wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:06:12 +0200 (CEST), Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote: Name        : flash-player-plugin11        Relocations: (not relocatable) Version     :

Re: [Mageia-dev] How to push new packages to Mageia 1 updates_testing

2011-07-17 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 17 July 2011 23:43, Samuel Verschelde sto...@laposte.net wrote: Hi, I wanted to share the method I use when I need to push a new package (new = missing from Mageia 1) from cauldron to Mageia 1 updates. This concerns only packages available in Mandriva 2010.2 but absent from Mageia 1. I'm