Re: [Mageia-dev] pixmap

2011-12-14 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 13/12/2011 23:27, jcc a écrit : Hello, In a spec file, to install icons, if you copy the image in xpm format in /usr/share/pixmap how do you update the image? I search a command like %{_bindir}/gtk-update-icon-cache -q %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor; but for a pixmap image. This update the gtk

Re: [Mageia-dev] HIME for Mageia lang.pm modifications

2011-12-14 Thread You-Cheng Hsieh
2011/12/14 Franklin Weng frank...@goodhorse.idv.tw: Hi list, Yesterday some developers launched a new input method project HIME (http://hime.luna.com.tw) which is forked from gcin. I downloaded the source code and made a rpm package.  It successfully installed with rpm. If I set the

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread Dan Fandrich
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 09:04:39PM -0500, Liam R E Quin wrote: It's really hard to test for dependencies like this, as the person building the package will have working versions of everything. It would be tricky, but entirely possible to be tested automatically. Worse, in two years' time,

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread Dan Fandrich
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:49:15AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: This is unsupported. Maybe you should instead contribute documentation that makes this more explicitly obvious, but it is a well-known rule in Mandriva and Mageia (and usually applies to other distros as well). I can understand

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 14/12/2011 10:14, Dan Fandrich a écrit : On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:49:15AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: This is unsupported. Maybe you should instead contribute documentation that makes this more explicitly obvious, but it is a well-known rule in Mandriva and Mageia (and usually applies to

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread nicolas vigier
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Dan Fandrich wrote: It's possible to handle that kind of case reliably, but I understand that it would be more work to get the dependencies just right. Many library authors put plenty of effort into maintaining binary compatibility across releases just so this sort of

Re: [Mageia-dev] No sound after reboot.

2011-12-14 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Charles A Edwards at 14/12/11 04:45 did gyre and gimble: After rebooting tonight for the first time in approx a week I find that sound no longer works. Sound card is c-media and is properly detected in both harddrake and alsaconf and uses the snd_cmipci driver and is set

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:14, Dan Fandrich d...@coneharvesters.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:49:15AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: This is unsupported. Maybe you should instead contribute documentation that makes this more explicitly obvious, but it is a well-known rule in Mandriva and

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 14 December 2011 10:14, Dan Fandrich d...@coneharvesters.com wrote: I can understand that my particular case is unsupported, but I described a different, supported, scenario that would also fail due to this problem. To reiterate, a distribution upgrade from 1 to 2 (once it's finalized)

[Mageia-dev] Missing packages

2011-12-14 Thread Frank Griffin
The following situation has persisted over several days (i.e. it's not mirror lag): [root@ftgme2 ftg]# urpmi --auto-update updated medium Core Release updated medium Core Release Debug medium Core Updates is up-to-date updated medium Nonfree Release updated medium Nonfree Release Debug updated

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Backlund
Frank Griffin skrev 14.12.2011 14:29: The following situation has persisted over several days (i.e. it's not mirror lag): [root@ftgme2 ftg]# urpmi --auto-update updated medium Core Release updated medium Core Release Debug medium Core Updates is up-to-date updated medium Nonfree Release updated

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages

2011-12-14 Thread Frank Griffin
On 12/14/2011 07:33 AM, Thomas Backlund wrote: let it remove both of theese, as they are obsolete, and it should be ok. OK, thanks.

[Mageia-dev] OCaml packaging team

2011-12-14 Thread Malo
Hi everyone, I've created a wiki page to talk about the OCaml packaging effort that has started to catch up with Debian and Fedora. There is a wiki page: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/OCaml_Packaging The OCaml policies being at: https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Ocaml_policy This project can be extended

Re: [Mageia-dev] RFC: Drop mkinitrd completely in favour of dracut.

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Backlund
Anssi Hannula skrev 14.12.2011 02:47: On 03.12.2011 16:39, Anssi Hannula wrote: Does loading of radeon modesetting kernel driver without firmware break the boot completely, or does it just make X.org server fail to start? Does anyone know? IIRC older hw works, newer hw crashes the system.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problem with $MIRRORLIST ?

2011-12-14 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 13/12/2011 03:59, Charles A Edwards a écrit : For the past 2 days there appears to be an issue if using $MIRRORLIST urpmi bails with the following: 'Could not find a mirror from mirrorlist $MIRRORLIST' Unless you got a laptop, moving between very different networks, and downloading very

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Balcaen John mik...@mageia.org wrote: Le mercredi 16 novembre 2011 18:37:46 zezinho a écrit : Le mercredi 9 novembre 2011 14:30:15, Angelo Naselli a écrit : Naah, tests should avoid that in the same way we did in cauldron... so big issues should come out soon

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread Dan Fandrich
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:31:36PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote: On 14 December 2011 10:14, Dan Fandrich d...@coneharvesters.com wrote: I can understand that my particular case is unsupported, but I described a different, supported, scenario that would also fail due to this problem. To

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 14 december 2011 18:26:15 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: kdenlive 0.8.2.1 is now available on cauldron, so what is the final decision on this, there will be an update for mga 1 or not ? I think it should. juancho even though there are several bugs in the mga1 implementation

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be wrote: even though there are several bugs in the mga1 implementation (believe me, i know!) i would still say no, because my wife would kill me if her older projects would not produce the exact same result... sorry, i vote for

Re: [Mageia-dev] pixmap

2011-12-14 Thread jcc
On 14/12/2011 09:40, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le 13/12/2011 23:27, jcc a écrit : Hello, In a spec file, to install icons, if you copy the image in xpm format in /usr/share/pixmap how do you update the image? I search a command like %{_bindir}/gtk-update-icon-cache -q %{_datadir}/icons/hicolor;

Re: [Mageia-dev] pixmap

2011-12-14 Thread Dan Fandrich
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:42:54PM +0100, jcc wrote: I have a problem with the icon of the application. First I tried to save the icon image in pixmap directory but no icon appears on the desktop menu bar. What does your .desktop file look like? Dan

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Jose Jorge
Le 14/12/2011 21:22, Juan Luis Baptiste a écrit : Take into consideration that additional to the 157 bugs[1] fixed in Please, let's not talk again and again of what is an update and what is a backport... New features - no update, that's our policy.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Jose Jorge lists.jjo...@free.fr wrote: Le 14/12/2011 21:22, Juan Luis Baptiste a écrit : Take into consideration that additional to the 157 bugs[1] fixed in Please, let's not talk again and again of what is an update and what is a backport... New features -

Re: [Mageia-dev] No sound after reboot.

2011-12-14 Thread magnus
same prob with alpha2 [root@localhost mga2]# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [VT82xx ]: HDA-Intel - HDA VIA VT82xx HDA VIA VT82xx at 0xfbffc000 irq 17 1 [Bt878 ]: Bt87x - Brooktree Bt878 Brooktree Bt878 at 0xf7fff000, irq 17 [root@localhost

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 14 december 2011 22:02:41 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Jose Jorge lists.jjo...@free.fr wrote: Le 14/12/2011 21:22, Juan Luis Baptiste a écrit : Take into consideration that additional to the 157 bugs[1] fixed in Please, let's not talk again and

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 14 décembre 2011 à 01:20 -0800, Dan Fandrich a écrit : On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 09:04:39PM -0500, Liam R E Quin wrote: It's really hard to test for dependencies like this, as the person building the package will have working versions of everything. It would be tricky, but

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 19:19, Dan Fandrich d...@coneharvesters.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:30:33AM +, Pascal Terjan wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:14, Dan Fandrich d...@coneharvesters.com wrote: I can understand that my particular case is unsupported, but I described a

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release perl-Libconf-0.42.10-3.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Michael Scherer
Le dimanche 11 décembre 2011 à 14:51 +0100, Olivier Blin a écrit : Thierry Vignaud thierry.vign...@gmail.com writes: On 11 December 2011 03:58, Mageia Team buildsystem-dae...@mageia.org wrote: URL : http://www.libconf.net/ Summary : Configuration file abstraction layer

Re: [Mageia-dev] init=systemd

2011-12-14 Thread Olivier Blin
Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie writes: Well, init=/bin/systemd is forced by drakxtools on each kernel install, if /bin/systemd exists (which means always, since systemd is required by basesystem). See /usr/lib/libDrakX/bootloader.pm This is pretty bad, we should not do it if we still

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be wrote: if my wife wasn't using kdenlive i would've said, that it was a maintainers nightmare to get all these separately fixed with bugfixes and testing, and to go ahead (and i believe i said so in the past), but now that the

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 14 december 2011 22:55:58 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be wrote: if my wife wasn't using kdenlive i would've said, that it was a maintainers nightmare to get all these separately fixed with bugfixes and testing, and to

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Juan Luis Baptiste
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be wrote: but i'm definately gonna test this one, either way. i mean, next time my wife will want a version with less bugs... it's up for cauldron, right? too bad backports isn't ready yet... Yep, but you can download the src rpm

Re: [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later

2011-12-14 Thread Michael Scherer
Le samedi 10 décembre 2011 à 12:14 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : You're explaining why having orphan packages is bad and it's hard to disagree, but I fail to see why such a mailing list for people who are ready to devote some time to orphan packages would make things worse. It's not

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 14 december 2011 23:12:57 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Maarten Vanraes al...@rmail.be wrote: but i'm definately gonna test this one, either way. i mean, next time my wife will want a version with less bugs... it's up for cauldron, right? too

Re: [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later

2011-12-14 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 14 december 2011 23:19:40 schreef Michael Scherer: Le samedi 10 décembre 2011 à 12:14 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : You're explaining why having orphan packages is bad and it's hard to disagree, but I fail to see why such a mailing list for people who are ready to devote

Re: [Mageia-dev] How broken are RPM dependencies allowed to be?

2011-12-14 Thread nicolas vigier
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Dan Fandrich wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:31:36PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote: On 14 December 2011 10:14, Dan Fandrich d...@coneharvesters.com wrote: I can understand that my particular case is unsupported, but I described a different, supported, scenario that

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread nicolas vigier
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: if my wife wasn't using kdenlive i would've said, that it was a maintainers nightmare to get all these separately fixed with bugfixes and testing, and to go ahead (and i believe i said so in the past), but now that the project is almost ready

Re: [Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices

2011-12-14 Thread Andrew Myers
On 13 December 2011 15:49, andre999 andre999...@laposte.net wrote: Hi everyone, am2605 (Andrew Myers), who has been waiting over a week, a longtime Fedora, a web developer, interested in packaging related to Gnome, Java, Ecliple among others, teaching himself Mageia packaging basics. That's

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdenlive-0.8.2-1.mga2

2011-12-14 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op woensdag 14 december 2011 23:59:04 schreef nicolas vigier: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Maarten Vanraes wrote: if my wife wasn't using kdenlive i would've said, that it was a maintainers nightmare to get all these separately fixed with bugfixes and testing, and to go ahead (and i believe i said

Re: [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later

2011-12-14 Thread Manuel Hiebel
Le jeudi 15 décembre 2011 à 00:14 +0100, nicolas vigier a écrit : On Wed, 14 Dec 2011, Michael Scherer wrote: So let's try to make a proposal, if there is a list, after how many months should a package be removed from the repository if not maintained ( and by maintained, I do not say

Re: [Mageia-dev] No sound after reboot.

2011-12-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:27:55 + Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: Sound card is c-media and is properly detected in both harddrake and alsaconf and uses the snd_cmipci driver and is set to use pulseaudio. Driver and modules are loaded [root@SuperSize ~]# lspcidrake -v

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problem with $MIRRORLIST ?

2011-12-14 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:49:02 +0100 Guillaume Rousse guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: 'Could not find a mirror from mirrorlist $MIRRORLIST' Unless you got a laptop, moving between very different networks, and downloading very large payloads, using a dynamic mirrors list is asking for

Re: [Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices

2011-12-14 Thread andre999
D.Morgan a écrit : On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Samuel Verscheldesto...@laposte.net wrote: Le mardi 13 décembre 2011 05:49:45, andre999 a écrit : Hi everyone, We have several new packagers -- barjac and malo (thanks to mentor shlomif), and eatdirt (thanks to mentor

Re: [Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices

2011-12-14 Thread andre999
You-Cheng Hsieh a écrit : Hello, I'm not sure if I should post a new message or reply this thread, but I'm looking for a mentor. Yes, posting to this thread is expected :) [...] Best Regards, You-Cheng Hsieh -- André

Re: [Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices

2011-12-14 Thread andre999
Andrew Myers a écrit : On 13 December 2011 15:49, andre999andre999...@laposte.net wrote: Hi everyone, am2605 (Andrew Myers), who has been waiting over a week, a longtime Fedora, a web developer, interested in packaging related to Gnome, Java, Ecliple among others, teaching

Re: [Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices

2011-12-14 Thread zezinho
Le mardi 13 décembre 2011 05:49:45, andre999 a écrit : ajunior (Adjamiltion Júnior), who is interested in maintaining packages related to pinpoint, gzip, or any others needing a maintainer I have writen to ajunior, it may end being my first apprentice ;-)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later

2011-12-14 Thread zezinho
Le jeudi 15 décembre 2011 00:28:05, Manuel Hiebel a écrit : And what to do with package that have a maintainer, but the packager does not fix the bugs or is inactive ? :D Just say here : Houston, we've got a problem! ;-)

[Mageia-dev] rsync fails at .../iso/cauldron/old

2011-12-14 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Mirror: ftp.mandrivauser.de/mirrors/Mageia/ Our rsync cronjob returned a failure message: rsync: opendir /iso/cauldron/old (in Mageia) failed: Permission denied (13) The result is a folder '/iso/cauldron/old' with strange owner: group uid/gid and no contents. We are syncing with

Re: [Mageia-dev] rsync fails at .../iso/cauldron/old

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Backlund
Wolfgang Bornath skrev 15.12.2011 09:10: Mirror: ftp.mandrivauser.de/mirrors/Mageia/ Our rsync cronjob returned a failure message: rsync: opendir /iso/cauldron/old (in Mageia) failed: Permission denied (13) The result is a folder '/iso/cauldron/old' with strange owner: group uid/gid and no

Re: [Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later

2011-12-14 Thread Sander Lepik
15.12.2011 01:28, Manuel Hiebel kirjutas: And what to do with package that have a maintainer, but the packager does not fix the bugs or is inactive ? :D List them here.. lets make a wall of blame :) -- Sander