Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release timidity-patch-freepats-20060219-15.mga3

2012-11-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 26/11/2012 09:24, tv a écrit : Description : Freepats is a project to create a free and open set of GUS compatible patches that can be used with softsynths such as Timidity and WildMidi. They are verified to contain no non-free restriction. Freepats is distributed under GPL v2 or later, with

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release php-5.4.9-2.mga3

2012-11-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 24/11/2012 18:10, oden a écrit : oden oden 3:5.4.9-2.mga3: + Revision: 321559 - maybe better configure line now... - rebuild - remove pok crap This kind of comment is perfectly unadequate here. Moreover, it doesn't even give any clue to anyone reading the changelog about what kind of change

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release php-5.4.9-2.mga3

2012-11-26 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 26 November 2012 09:33, Guillaume Rousse guillomovi...@gmail.com wrote: - remove pok crap This kind of comment is perfectly unadequate here. Moreover, it doesn't even give any clue to anyone reading the changelog about what kind of change it is.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [Bug 8177] rm command can't delete file, unless using the full path for the rm binary /bin/rm

2012-11-26 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 22 November 2012 16:27, EatDirt dirt...@gmail.com wrote: Or if you happy to run rm as it was written and risk deleting something you didn't want too, then comment out the alias (and any others that get on your nerves:) ) from /etc/profile.d/60alias.sh :) did that too, old school, when I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repo down: repository fallback by default...

2012-11-26 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi, On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I am trying to install some software and get the error: L'installation a échoué, certains fichiers sont manquants : rsync://

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repo down: repository fallback by default...

2012-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2012/11/26 Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com: Hi, On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to install some software and get the error: L'installation a échoué, certains fichiers sont manquants :

Re: [Mageia-dev] Utter frustration

2012-11-26 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/11/12 17:22, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 14:01 +, Anne Wilson wrote: Since there's no identification in the message, all I could suggest is a brute-force search of all files on the root or /usr partitons for the string

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon uploaded

2012-11-26 Thread Anne Nicolas
Le 26/11/2012 14:23, Joseph Wang a écrit : On 25/11/12 17:22, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 14:01 +, Anne Wilson wrote: Since there's no identification in the message, all I could suggest is a brute-force search of all files on the root or /usr partitons for the string

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon

2012-11-26 Thread Joseph Wang
There has already been zillions of discussions about this. We will not have Cinnamon. We already have enough environments and not enough maintainers. And it will cause troubles maintaining different versions. I volunteer to maintain cinnamon. I've already ported it from fedora. I did it

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon uploaded

2012-11-26 Thread Sander Lepik
26.11.2012 15:23, Joseph Wang kirjutas: Hi all, I've uploaded the packages needed to get cinnamon working with Mageia. These include cinnamon nemo muffin task-cinnamon I don't have submission privileges so I'll need someone to review the packages and then kick off the build. It's a

[Mageia-dev] OpenVPN + auth-user-pass + systemd password agents (was: Re: OpenVPN missing PID dir)

2012-11-26 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Richard Couture at 26/11/12 03:02 did gyre and gimble: I didn't mean to open a can of worms, but since it's open ... No worries. No worms here, just discussing some packaging related stuff. with script-security 2 added to the client.conf, openvpn starts just fine with the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Why no totem-plugin-arte in Mageia ?

2012-11-26 Thread Götz Waschk
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Jose Jorge lists.jjo...@free.fr wrote: I had packaged totem-plugin-arte for Mandriva, I can take a look at it. I'm not running Cauldron though, so I cannot test it if I import it. Anyone interested in testing a cauldron build? Dear All, totem-plugin-arte works

[Mageia-dev] Mailing-list archives and robots

2012-11-26 Thread Sander Lepik
I was trying to find something from dev-ml archives with google and found nothing. Then i checked our archives source and found 'META NAME=robots CONTENT=index,nofollow'- is there some good reason for nofollow? Or should i use something else to search our archives? -- Sander

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repo down: repository fallback by default...

2012-11-26 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.comwrote: 2012/11/26 Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com: Hi, On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to install some software and get the error:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repo down: repository fallback by default...

2012-11-26 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.comwrote: 2012/11/26 Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com: Hi, On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to install some software and get the error:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repo down: repository fallback by default...

2012-11-26 Thread Johnny A. Solbu
On Monday 26. November 2012 14.50, Jehan Pagès wrote: I just tried it again, all Tainted * mirror from JAIST are broken Mirroring «Tainted» is not required because it contains patented software, and in some countries distributing patented software without a patent license is illegal. --

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon

2012-11-26 Thread Colin Guthrie
Hi, [friendly request: please try and post in plain text to mailing lists - makes it much easier when you're reading numerous different messages every day to not have to adapt to the different styles] Firstly thanks for your work. 'Twas brillig, and Joseph Wang at 26/11/12 13:38 did gyre and

Re: [Mageia-dev] Repo down: repository fallback by default...

2012-11-26 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Johnny A. Solbu coo...@solbu.net wrote: On Monday 26. November 2012 14.50, Jehan Pagès wrote: I just tried it again, all Tainted * mirror from JAIST are broken Mirroring «Tainted» is not required because it contains patented software, and in some

[Mageia-dev] Distrib-coffee will down tonight

2012-11-26 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Due to electricity maintenance distrib-coffee will be done from 18H00 GMT to tomorrow 11H00 GMT. Sorry for the inconvenience. Regards. -- Olivier Thauvin CNRS - LATMOS ♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ pgp9UjmDbksOp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon

2012-11-26 Thread Jan Ciger
Hello, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.iewrote: Well you've clearly put a lot of work into this. While we have decided in the short term to not support cinnamon, this is not necessarily a forever decision, however at this stage of the release, it's likely

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon

2012-11-26 Thread Thomas Backlund
Jan Ciger skrev 26.11.2012 16:33: Hello, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Colin Guthrie mag...@colin.guthr.ie mailto:mag...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: Well you've clearly put a lot of work into this. While we have decided in the short term to not support cinnamon, this is not necessarily a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon

2012-11-26 Thread Jan Ciger
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org wrote: Jan Ciger skrev 26.11.2012 16:33: Ummm.. we dont have any Contribs media :) Oops. I guess my Mandriva past shows. Maybe it would be an opportunity to start it then - there is non-free and tainted already. Having a repo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bye Bye Mageia

2012-11-26 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:07:31PM +0800, Joseph Wang wrote: Anyway, gnome is in a death spiral If you don't like flames, don't start one. -- Regards, Olav (GNOME release team member, Mageia packager)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 27, Issue 85

2012-11-26 Thread Joseph Wang
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM, mageia-dev-requ...@mageia.org wrote: Hmm, have you missed that there will be no Cinnamon in Mageia repos? Part of packagers job is to keep eye on the dev ml. Maybe I'll stay on for another day or so. I've been using Mageia/Mandriva for years, and so I'll keep

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bye Bye Mageia

2012-11-26 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Joseph Wang at 26/11/12 14:07 did gyre and gimble: If Mageia won't accept the work that I just did packaging cinnamon, then bye, bye Mageia. It's a shame that you feel the need to write such an email after an incredibly minimal discussion on the topic. It's basically an

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mailing-list archives and robots

2012-11-26 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 03:51:11PM +0200, Sander Lepik wrote: I was trying to find something from dev-ml archives with google and found nothing. Then i checked our archives source and found 'META NAME=robots CONTENT=index,nofollow'- is there some good reason for nofollow? Or should i use

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bye Bye Mageia

2012-11-26 Thread Donald Stewart
On 26 November 2012 14:47, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:07:31PM +0800, Joseph Wang wrote: Anyway, gnome is in a death spiral If you don't like flames, don't start one. -- Regards, Olav (GNOME release team member, Mageia packager) While this situation is

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mailing-list archives and robots

2012-11-26 Thread Sander Lepik
26.11.2012 16:52, Olav Vitters kirjutas: On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 03:51:11PM +0200, Sander Lepik wrote: I was trying to find something from dev-ml archives with google and found nothing. Then i checked our archives source and found 'META NAME=robots CONTENT=index,nofollow'- is there some good

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon

2012-11-26 Thread Florent Monnier
2012/11/26, Joseph Wang joequant on gmail: [...] So what do you want me to do? I just discovered your problem while reading your email and its answers. I'm also a volunteer just like you. Not for Mageia but in other project I also did some work that have never been accepted upstream. So I do

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmsrate-raw changes related to GNOME

2012-11-26 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 26 November 2012 16:03, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: I've made the following rpmsrate-raw changes related to GNOME Most are OKs but: 3. X category always provided xdm,xguest,icewm-light. I changed that to only install this when not GNOME. meaning: - no fall back desktop when

[Mageia-dev] GStreamer packaging (was: Re: rpmsrate-raw changes related to GNOME)

2012-11-26 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 26/11/12 15:03 did gyre and gimble: 1. gstreamer1.0-pulse in Audio category (in addition to gstreamer0.10-pulse!) == guessing gstreamer0.10 might be around for a while, not sure Just a followup to this and some other gst related discussions of late, should

Re: [Mageia-dev] OpenVPN + auth-user-pass + systemd password agents

2012-11-26 Thread Richard Couture
I've googled for hours before writing the message and as usual, simply increased my blood pressure with no solutions |-( Maybe you'll have better luck. Richard On 11/26/2012 07:42 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Richard Couture at 26/11/12 03:02 did gyre and gimble: I didn't

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 27, Issue 85

2012-11-26 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 22:49 +0800, Joseph Wang wrote: Let me tell you about my day. [...] Most of us have jobs. Almost everyone here is a volunteer. But you are volunteering to be part of a team, and that involves fitting in with the team's larger goals. A set of astronomy-related packages

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon

2012-11-26 Thread Joseph Wang
This is true, and there is no doubt that we need more resources, but in this case it could cost more than it gains. We have had issues in the past of the packages for these alternative DEs causing issues for the core DEs due to the packages satisfying dep's required by the core packages. I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon

2012-11-26 Thread Pascal Terjan
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Joseph Wang joequ...@gmail.com wrote: This is true, and there is no doubt that we need more resources, but in this case it could cost more than it gains. We have had issues in the past of the packages for these alternative DEs causing issues for the core

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 27, Issue 85

2012-11-26 Thread Pierre-Malo Deniélou
On 26/11/12 14:49, Joseph Wang wrote: I really don't think that cinnamon is ready for Mageia 3. There are some pretty major bugs in it, and it's not ready for prime time. It would be useful to keep it in the testing section, and then target it for Mageia 4. I do think it would be a good

Re: [Mageia-dev] rpmsrate-raw changes related to GNOME

2012-11-26 Thread Manuel Hiebel
Le 26/11/2012 16:03, Olav Vitters a écrit : I've made the following rpmsrate-raw changes related to GNOME fix for https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6133 still missing

Re: [Mageia-dev] Cinnamon

2012-11-26 Thread Thomas Backlund
Joseph Wang skrev 26.11.2012 18:09: I just want a nice looking desktop and to have a stable platform that I can use to do astrophysics hacking. If I have to spend any non-trivial effort to get cinnamon packaged in some way that doesn't break the system, then I'm going to go insane pushing

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mailing-list archives and robots

2012-11-26 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Sander, *, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Sander Lepik sander.le...@eesti.ee wrote: Good point! So we are probably missing links to our archives (as i can't find anything that links to mageia-dev archives). Not only that, it is also just misconfigured. Mail-headers contain:

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3

2012-11-26 Thread Thomas Backlund
tv skrev 26.11.2012 16:53: Name: x11-driver-video-ati Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 7.0.0 Vendor: Mageia.Org Release : 2.mga3Build Date: Mon Nov 26 15:52:14 2012 Note to all ati users... Beginning with

[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] Dealing with Books/*

2012-11-26 Thread Pierre-Malo Deniélou
Dear packagers, Some progress has happened on the RPM group move. Thanks a lot. However there is still a lot to do before the Beta 1 and the mass-rebuild. The main categories that need still to be changed are: Obsolete group | number of remaining packages Books/Computer books 21

[Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)

2012-11-26 Thread Malo
Sorry for the wrong title ... On 26/11/12 17:30, Pierre-Malo Deniélou wrote: Dear packagers, Some progress has happened on the RPM group move. Thanks a lot. However there is still a lot to do before the Beta 1 and the mass-rebuild. The main categories that need still to be changed are:

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bye Bye Mageia

2012-11-26 Thread Joseph Wang
One reason that I kept rather quiet is that e-mail conversations on mailing lists have a tendency to become flame wars, and I really want to avoid that. It's very easy in public conversations to come across as a jerk, and as a newbie I really wanted to avoid that. I've tried whenever finding

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mailing-list archives and robots

2012-11-26 Thread Anne Wilson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 26/11/2012 16:54, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Sander, *, On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Sander Lepik sander.le...@eesti.ee wrote: Good point! So we are probably missing links to our archives (as i can't find anything that links to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bye Bye Mageia

2012-11-26 Thread Donald Stewart
On 26 November 2012 18:25, Joseph Wang joequ...@gmail.com wrote: One reason that I kept rather quiet is that e-mail conversations on mailing lists have a tendency to become flame wars, and I really want to avoid that. It's very easy in public conversations to come across as a jerk, and as a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bye Bye Mageia

2012-11-26 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le 26/11/2012 15:07, Joseph Wang a écrit : If Mageia won't accept the work that I just did packaging cinnamon, then bye, bye Mageia. See you. -- BOFH excuse #108: The air conditioning water supply pipe ruptured over the machine room

[Mageia-dev] Hello Mageia!!!!

2012-11-26 Thread Joseph Wang
OK. Everything is better. One reason I hate posting on public e-mail lists is that you get into silly flame wars over miscommunication. Putting everything into updates_testing and keeping it out of the core Mageia 3 is exactly the right thing to do. I can go ahead with trying to package

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bye Bye Mageia

2012-11-26 Thread Kamil Rytarowski
On 26.11.2012 19:52, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le 26/11/2012 15:07, Joseph Wang a écrit : If Mageia won't accept the work that I just did packaging cinnamon, then bye, bye Mageia. See you. Emotional blackmail is a form of psychological manipulation - it is the use of a system of threats and

Re: [Mageia-dev] Bye Bye Mageia

2012-11-26 Thread Thomas Backlund
Joseph Wang skrev 26.11.2012 20:25: My assumption was that as a community driven project, there would be some mechanism for adding new packages to the system, and that I wouldn't have to worry about getting permission, I would just do it. Fedora already has a mechanism for doing that, but

[Mageia-dev] Updating python-lxml

2012-11-26 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Phillipe, can you update python-lxml to 3.0.1 or is there any reason it wasn't updated yet? Otherwise, I can update it (it was a matter of changing the version, and running mgarepo sync -d and rebuilding). Regards, Shlomi Fish --

Re: [Mageia-dev] Updating python-lxml

2012-11-26 Thread philippe makowski
Hi, 2012/11/26 Shlomi Fish shlo...@shlomifish.org: can you update python-lxml to 3.0.1 or is there any reason it wasn't updated yet? just because http://check.mageia.org did not told me to update it ;) Otherwise, I can update it (it was a matter of changing the version, and running mgarepo

Re: [Mageia-dev] sell me Mageia (was: Cinnamon)

2012-11-26 Thread Florent Monnier
2012/11/26, Joseph Wang joequ...@gmail.com: [...] I suppose it would help if someone tries to sell me Mageia. What is Mageia, and why should I volunteer to work on it? [...] Hello, I won't tell you that you should be a volunteer to Mageia. You should volunteer to the project that you like,

Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3

2012-11-26 Thread Anssi Hannula
26.11.2012 19:25, Thomas Backlund kirjoitti: tv skrev 26.11.2012 16:53: Name: x11-driver-video-ati Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 7.0.0 Vendor: Mageia.Org Release : 2.mga3Build Date: Mon Nov 26 15:52:14

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 27, Issue 85

2012-11-26 Thread Bo Lan
On Monday, November 26, 2012 10:49:43 PM Joseph Wang wrote: I really don't think that cinnamon is ready for Mageia 3. There are some pretty major bugs in it, and it's not ready for prime time. It would be useful to keep it in the testing section, and then target it for Mageia 4. Hi

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM Groups] RPM group change before Beta 1 (fixed title)

2012-11-26 Thread Remco Rijnders
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 05:34:33PM +, Malo wrote in 50b3a829.4060...@rhul.ac.uk: Some progress has happened on the RPM group move. Thanks a lot. However there is still a lot to do before the Beta 1 and the mass-rebuild. The main categories that need still to be changed are: Obsolete group

Re: [Mageia-dev] Hello Mageia!!!!

2012-11-26 Thread Anne Wilson
On 26/11/2012 18:54, Joseph Wang wrote: I would like to attend the weekly meeting, but I'm in Asia. May I suggest that you leave an IRC window open overnight, then, read the backscroll, and simply reply to the channel at a more convenient time if you see things that need comment? Time zones do