Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-18 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Florian Hubold wrote: > Hate to do that, but could we please focus on the topic of the thread > and not dream about the next best thing in operating systems? > We should focus on getting our base cleaned up, and to get a stable > and good quality release out the door, This should be our top priori

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Tux99 wrote: > I guess the old rule of polls applies: > depending on how you formulate the poll question and the description of > the options you can hugely influence the results... This is so true. I follow the politics blog FiveThirtyEight (warning! statistics nerd alert activated!) and again

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Tux99 wrote: > Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 16:00 >> Enabling them by default defies the purpose of having backports at >> all; it's not for new users, it's more for slightly experienced users >> or power users who want the latest versions of apps. > That's exactly the crucia

Re: [Mageia-dev] Proposal: Updating released versions (long post)

2010-10-14 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Frank Griffin wrote: >> Now that's getting very hackish. >> I'd rather not have many programs wrapped in scripts that would do some >> magic on my home dir under the hood. Because with such a "solution" the >> programs would be always wrapped, even if you never do a rollback. >> How would such scr

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-14 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Marc Paré wrote: > Thanks for posting the site Tux99. There was talk of more user groups > doing the poll/survey. Does anyone know if this is being done? Great > data for the devs to consider. > > Marc This in the Spanish-speaking Mandriva community BlogDrake: http://blogdrake.net/encuesta/que

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-13 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Michael Scherer wrote: > So I assume that you volunteer to find another Tier 1 mirror to replace > ibiblio.org ? I'm pretty sure ibiblio.org will host Mageia mirror. Salut, Sinner

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-13 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > It's easy to communicate, it's easy to implement fitting even those > "dumb" users some people are talking about. Yesterday I installed the > new Ubuntu 10.10, a window opened near the end of the installation > process telling me that my hardware may need/use a non-free d

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

2010-10-13 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Marc Paré wrote: > I think pre-selected Country installs would just be too hard to > coordinate, laws change. Free and non-free is pretty simple. > > Marc +1 My thoughts exactly. Salut, Sinner

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-13 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Fernando Parra wrote: > (Finally, it would not be as strict versions of certain components. If, > for example morning out mageia 2010 (for instance) and the day after > Firefox 4.0 comes out, you do not run the 3.6.x version with all the > time,) > > That's very clear, these users are trying to s

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-07 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Marc Paré wrote: > I have to say though, that after having browsed through the Mdv2010.1 > backports by hand, there is a lot, from a user point of view, that would > interest users. All of the sexy upgrades to software are there. That's my point exactly. IMHO , with backports there is no need fo

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-06 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Raphaël Jadot wrote: > 2010/10/6 Maarten Vanraes > : >> >> This is non-sensical; i will never choose Centos for a server, if i was >> to have a bug, where would i go with it??? > > http://www.centos.org/ click on support :) > > If you need commercial support, there are small companies that ca

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-05 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > 2010/10/2 Michael Scherer : >> >> So I say no to this idea. Asking useless questions just add burden to >> the user. People that have a preferred browser know how to install it, >> those that don't do not care enough. > > Reasonable. Can also be applied to other such thi

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-05 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Juan Luis Baptiste wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Fernando Parra > wrote: >> A different approach could be a "light rolling distro", let me explain. A >> distro with a selected number of programs updated regular as their new >> versions are available. > That's what backports are for,

Re: [Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

2010-10-01 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
atilla ontas wrote: > I'm just wondering if we follow Mandriva's release cycle model. (...) > One more thing. Do we follow Mandriva's release naming scheme? I.e. do > we call our first release 2011.x ? I don't like this naming scheme and > suggesting using number of release as naming like Mageia

Re: [Mageia-dev] An idea for improve URPMI ;)

2010-10-01 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Oliver Burger wrote: > André Machado schrieb am 2010-09-30 >> I'm asking if is possible "force" >> or "make" URPMI create this "groups", elect the smaller one and download >> it, from the smaller to bigger package, install it and download the >> second smaller package group in this same order. >

Re: [Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

2010-10-01 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Fabrice Facorat wrote: > 2010/10/1 Romain d'Alverny > : (...) >> Both (substance, appearance) are crucial. If you only consider one >> without balancing, making it consistent with the other, you're not >> going down the right path. The interface, the whole experience with it >> is the product. >

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-01 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Liam R E Quin wrote: > Better to make AdBlock scripts easy to install (e.g. via > MageiaControlCentre?), and maybe include them (so no download needed) > but not enabled. I'd rather have FFox add-ons to be installed as in every other platform: through official FFox way. Salut, Sinenr

Re: [Mageia-dev] Talk of Browsers

2010-10-01 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Michael Scherer wrote: > Chromium is a pain to properly package, imho. But then, it is extremely fast on my system, compared to FireFox. Salut, Sinner

Re: [Mageia-dev] Identifying Target Markets

2010-09-30 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Kira wrote: > Yes, Mageia or Mandrake/Mandriva is for all purpose, but every distro > can be all-purpose. The point is: There's no distinctive difference > toward other distribution. The failure of Mandriva SA business can be > connected to many factor, which I believe part of the problem is that

Re: [Mageia-dev] I would like to help...

2010-09-28 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Jorge Félez wrote: > Hello I would like to help with spanish translation, testing the 64 or > 32 bits desktop edition and maybe making some packages. > > Please let me know how can I help this new community :) Hi Jorge! Please join the wiki at http://www.mageia.org/wiki/ and the translating t

Re: [Mageia-dev] Indonesian volunteer

2010-09-27 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
Erwien Samantha Y wrote: > Hi All, > > My Name Erwien Samantha, I'm Mandrake --> Mandriva users. Previously I > did Indonesian translations. > With Mageia i'd like to continue my contribution in translation, > testing or even sysadmin. > > Let's the magic continue! > > regards, > Erwien. Hi E

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia server conception

2010-09-27 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
To: Sascha Schneider , Samuel Verschelde, Bersuit Vera Why don't you guys take initiative and start a "server area" on Mageia's Wiki? Maybe with the help of ennael (Anne) Salut, Sinner -- Sinner from the Prairy - http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/ - http://www.ibiblio.or

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-26 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
r a review made before 64bits compilers that uncovered that: i586 was noticeable faster than i386 i686 made no real difference to i586 Gentoo laser-precission target made no real difference to i586 Salut, Sinner -- Sinner from the Prairy - http://sinnerbofh.blogspot.com/ - http://www.ibiblio.org/

Re: [Mageia-dev] i686 must be Pentium II ?

2010-09-24 Thread Sinner from the Prairy
patrice.brune...@free.fr wrote: > Wikipedia says that X86_64 include SSE/SSE2. All the new processors are 64 > bits. So I don't think it is necessary to change i586 to i686. 32 bits > platform will die soon. Also it is more important to keep more > compatibility for 32 bits. Well said. No need t