Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-02 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op dinsdag 02 augustus 2011 17:29:35 schreef Buchan Milne: > On Monday, 1 August 2011 20:21:21 Maarten Vanraes wrote: > > Op maandag 01 augustus 2011 11:42:26 schreef Thomas Lottmann: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I should have written this mail much sooner, but finally, I am totally, > > > completely

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-02 Thread Buchan Milne
On Tuesday, 2 August 2011 10:56:55 Thomas Lottmann wrote: > You are right in several points, but... :-) > > Le 01/08/2011 15:59, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > > On 1 August 2011 15:29, Thomas Lottmann wrote: > >> The other main issue I see si that Drakxnet is coded in Perl and uses a > >> lot of pe

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-02 Thread Buchan Milne
On Monday, 1 August 2011 20:21:21 Maarten Vanraes wrote: > Op maandag 01 augustus 2011 11:42:26 schreef Thomas Lottmann: > > Hello, > > > > I should have written this mail much sooner, but finally, I am totally, > > completely and starting to be hatefully fed up of these tools. > > > > The Mandri

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-02 Thread Marcello Anni
> You are right in several points, but... :-) > > Le 01/08/2011 15:59, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : > > On 1 August 2011 15:29, Thomas Lottmann wrote: > >> The other main issue I see si that Drakxnet is coded in Perl and uses a lot > >> of perl scripts, like the drakxtools. This makes it hard to ma

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-02 Thread Thomas Lottmann
You are right in several points, but... :-) Le 01/08/2011 15:59, Thierry Vignaud a écrit : On 1 August 2011 15:29, Thomas Lottmann wrote: The other main issue I see si that Drakxnet is coded in Perl and uses a lot of perl scripts, like the drakxtools. This makes it hard to maintain, and to imp

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 01 augustus 2011 21:04:33 schreef D.Morgan: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Maarten Vanraes [...] > > Thomas, since you feel this strongly, are you willing to spend some time > > on this? > > AFAIK this is not on mageia 2 specs, maybe you should not ask ppl if > they have time to work

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread D.Morgan
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote: > Op maandag 01 augustus 2011 11:42:26 schreef Thomas Lottmann: >> Hello, >> >> I should have written this mail much sooner, but finally, I am totally, >> completely and starting to be hatefully fed up of these tools. >> >> The Mandriva/Mageia

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op maandag 01 augustus 2011 11:42:26 schreef Thomas Lottmann: > Hello, > > I should have written this mail much sooner, but finally, I am totally, > completely and starting to be hatefully fed up of these tools. > > The Mandriva/Mageia tools that manage the network on computers, > especially the

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread Thierry Vignaud
On 1 August 2011 15:29, Thomas Lottmann wrote: > The other main issue I see si that Drakxnet is coded in Perl and uses a lot > of perl scripts, like the drakxtools. This makes it hard to maintain, and to > improve. That's just your own POV. Not the POV of maintainers. > I know it works fine for

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 14:50:10 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > 2011/8/1 Sigrid Carrera : > > Hi Wolfgang, *, > > > > On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:10:08 +0200 > > Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > >> > >> As you see, my "mileage" varies from yours. :) > > > > Yes, indeed, the experiences vary. But this doesn't mean

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread Thomas Lottmann
Le 01/08/2011 14:50, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : 2011/8/1 Sigrid Carrera: Hi Wolfgang, *, On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:10:08 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath wrote: As you see, my "mileage" varies from yours. :) Yes, indeed, the experiences vary. But this doesn't mean, that one opinion or experience can be d

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/8/1 Sigrid Carrera : > Hi Wolfgang, *, > > On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:10:08 +0200 > Wolfgang Bornath wrote: >> >> As you see, my "mileage" varies from yours. :) > > Yes, indeed, the experiences vary. But this doesn't mean, that one opinion or > experience can be dismissed because you have some di

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi Wolfgang, *, On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:10:08 +0200 Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > 2011/8/1 Thomas Lottmann : > > Hello, > > > > I should have written this mail much sooner, but finally, I am totally, > > completely and starting to be hatefully fed up of these tools. > > > > The Mandriva/Mageia tools

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread Balcaen John
Le Lundi 1 Août 2011 13:10:08 Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : [] > > This is not the first time I complain about this tool. We should > > not leave this unchanged. It is far too annoying and pushing to > > so much loss of time. > While I cannot confirm the problems you are talking about in former >

Re: [Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/8/1 Thomas Lottmann : > Hello, > > I should have written this mail much sooner, but finally, I am totally, > completely and starting to be hatefully fed up of these tools. > > The Mandriva/Mageia tools that manage the network on computers, especially > the wireless networks are completely dysf

[Mageia-dev] Drakxnet, drakroam and Draknetcenter : let's fix it or throw it.

2011-08-01 Thread Thomas Lottmann
Hello, I should have written this mail much sooner, but finally, I am totally, completely and starting to be hatefully fed up of these tools. The Mandriva/Mageia tools that manage the network on computers, especially the wireless networks are completely dysfunctional. While the Network Cente