Le mercredi 22 juin 2011 à 14:39 -0700, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU a écrit :
>
> >> A distro's job is not to judge the work of the _upstream_ developers as
> > long as this is not a real bug.
> >
> > But it's to integrate software, and apply common policy to all of them.
>
>
> ok, say a distro has
Le mercredi 22 juin 2011 à 23:08 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
> 'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 22/06/11 22:51 did gyre and gimble:
> > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:47:40 -0400, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
> > wrote:
> >
> >> As long as '/usr/bin/env python' _works_, I see no point in trying to
> >>
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:08:35 -0400, Colin Guthrie wrote:
2) /usr/bin/python prevents you testing easily with a new python
version (or just a new build) in a custom prefix).
Running something like "/usr/bin/python2.7 /usr/bin/calibre" ignores the
shebang, so it's still easy to test with a dif
Op woensdag 22 juni 2011 23:51:02 schreef David W. Hodgins:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:47:40 -0400, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
wrote:
> > As long as '/usr/bin/env python' _works_, I see no point in trying to
> > rewrite other people's work.
>
> Excluding the calibre scripts, in /usr/bin of a Mageia 1 k
'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 22/06/11 22:51 did gyre and gimble:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:47:40 -0400, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
> wrote:
>
>> As long as '/usr/bin/env python' _works_, I see no point in trying to
>> rewrite other people's work.
>
> Excluding the calibre scripts, in /usr/bi
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:47:40 -0400, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
wrote:
As long as '/usr/bin/env python' _works_, I see no point in trying to rewrite
other people's work.
Excluding the calibre scripts, in /usr/bin of a Mageia 1 kde clean installation
...
# grep -I python *|grep '#!'|grep env
eboo
>> A distro's job is not to judge the work of the _upstream_ developers as
> long as this is not a real bug.
>
> But it's to integrate software, and apply common policy to all of them.
ok, say a distro has 200 packages that use python, for a total of 20,000 *.py
files.
now what, the limite
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote:
>
> A distro's job is not to judge the work of the _upstream_ developers as long
> as this is not a real bug.
But it's to integrate software, and apply common policy to all of them.
> Also, /usr/bin/python2 doesn't exist to begin with, as mikala pointed out.
As I "repointed", the question was not that one. As long as calibre has used
env with python, not python2, it worked. Now that the developer changed that,
the least intrusive way would be to just remove the "2".
I pe
Op woensdag 22 juni 2011 22:47:40 schreef Radu-Cristian FOTESCU:
> I would say that the general principle should be to apply a _minimal_
> patching, not to try to rewrite the work of the developers of hundreds of
> packages!
>
> A distro's job is not to judge the work of the _upstream_ developers
> Actually, I said that the shebang should be removed altogether. Which
> is what was being done all those years calibre existed in the Mandriva
> repos (the same for Fedora, since they do remove the shebang, as the
> calibre spec was originally imported from Fedora, which I said in the
> report
On 22 June 2011 23:14, Ahmad Samir wrote:
> On 22 June 2011 22:47, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote:
>> I'm known to be grumpy and difficult, but I also believe in simplicity as a
>> policy, therefore I'd like to ask you something.
>>
>> By no means I want to question Ahmad's judgment, however I stro
On 22 June 2011 22:47, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote:
> I'm known to be grumpy and difficult, but I also believe in simplicity as a
> policy, therefore I'd like to ask you something.
>
> By no means I want to question Ahmad's judgment, however I strongly disagree
> with him on one point. As a _pri
> We don't have any python2 symlink or binary on mageia.
That was not the question. The question was whether '/usr/bin/env python2'
should be patched into '/usr/bin/env python' or into '/usr/bin/python'.
The more general question was whether all the upstream packages should be
"optimized".
Wh
2011/6/22 Radu-Cristian FOTESCU :
> I'm known to be grumpy and difficult, but I also believe in simplicity as a
> policy, therefore I'd like to ask you something.
>
> By no means I want to question Ahmad's judgment, however I strongly disagree
> with him on one point. As a _principle_. Otherwise,
I'm known to be grumpy and difficult, but I also believe in simplicity as a
policy, therefore I'd like to ask you something.
By no means I want to question Ahmad's judgment, however I strongly disagree
with him on one point. As a _principle_. Otherwise, it's a tiny punctual
question, but I'd li
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